problums installing 95

Compaq deskpro pc 733
February 25, 2010 at 15:03:25
Specs: windows 95
having problums installing win95 i have no op system only ms-dos and it wont read cd to run setup can any one help also on same computer accedentily termeated windows logon.exe well installing windows xp pro had windows 2000 pro can anyone help with thatto would rather have 2000 pro back then ms-dos

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#1
February 25, 2010 at 16:23:05
If the machine has a CD-Rom drive, then just find a bootable Win95 floppy with CD-Rom support. MicronPC used to have the best ones, but you should still find one that works here:

http://www.bootdisk.com/bootdisk.htm


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#2
February 25, 2010 at 16:36:21
Well, first make up your mind about exactly what OS you want installed.

For 95, what size hard drive do you have in there? And what version of 95 were you thinking of using? Early versions of 95 were only capable of setting up on 2 gig or less partitions. Any other space would need to be partitioned as virtual drives or left unused.

To install 95 you need a bootdisk with cdrom support or be able to boot from the 95 cd. Your 95 cd may not be bootable so it's probably best to get the bootdisk. I suggest you use a 98 bootdisk as they should always have cdrom support.

You'd boot up with that disk the first time and choose either cdrom support or no cdrom support, at this stage it won't matter since you won't be using the cd. Then at the a:\> prompt type FDISK and enter. If the drive is larger than 500 meg (which I'm sure it is) fdisk will ask if you want large disk support. Answer No if you have an early 95 or Yes if you have a later version.

It will probably also ask about treating NTFS partitions as large. Your attempt to install XP probably resulted in it creating an NTFS partition. Answer Yes to that. Then a menu appears. Choose # 3 "Delete partition. . .". You want to remove whatever partitions are there. NTFS partitions will be 'non dos' so you'd use that option to remove them.

Once you've deleted all the partitions hit ESC to get back to the main menu. Choose option 1 to create a new partition. For convenience choose to use the entire space as one partition.

When it's done it'll tell you it needs to reboot. Go ahead and do that. Be sure to choose cdrom support this time. Also, pay attention to what drive letter is assigned to the cdrom. That should show on the last few lines as the bootdisk is loading its stuff.

Then at the a:\> prompt type fdisk/mbr and enter. That will refresh the master boot record and should delete any reference to NTLDR that the XP install would have put there.

Next at the a:\> prompt type format c: and enter.

When that's done, and with the 95 cd in the cdrom, type X:\SETUP and enter, where X: is the cdrom drive letter indicated when you booted up. That should start the 95 installation.

When it's done you'll still need to install the 95 drivers for all your hardware. That should be on the compaq support page for your model.

You're not really green until you're soylent green.


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#3
February 25, 2010 at 19:22:09
thankyou for the info but only one prob all the people that i know that have computers all have newer ones and they don't have a A:/ drive and my cd-rom dose not read cds so you see my dalema the os i want to install is 95 so i can upgrade it to xp as you can tell i had troubel installing xp pro from win 2000pro.
i have 191 mgb of ram and have a pentium 3 prossessor with two 10 gig hard drives on the one hard drive it starts in ms-dos and on the other it has two os win2000 and hafe of xp pro and when it comes up it trys to start but then goes to a blue screen with fatel error winlogon .<windowsroot>system32\hal.dll is missing any ideas sorry for the confusion

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#4
February 25, 2010 at 20:31:55
One should always have friends with computers that have floppy drives.

But you may not need to do the actual upgrade from 95, 2000 or whatever. Start the installation with the XP upgrade disk. At some point in the installation it checks to see if you have an existing qualifying OS. Since it won't find one on your hard drive, it'll ask you to insert a disk from a qualifying OS.

And, according to this:

http://www.aumha.org/win5/a/xpupgra...

an existing 95 installation won't work for an upgrade but the disk will work when using it for a clean installation. So you may have to do that anyway.

But you say your cdrom doesn't read cds. Well how did you do the other installations and how did you plan on doing the upgrade to XP?

You're not really green until you're soylent green.


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#5
February 26, 2010 at 00:55:14
I believe that if you can copy the contents of the install CD onto
a directory on the hard drive the setup can be run from there.

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#6
February 26, 2010 at 02:35:24
Well, first of all if you're going to XP, you'll have to do something about that 191MB (?) of RAM. Not enough to do much of anything with XP.

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#7
February 26, 2010 at 11:52:13
my cd rom was working when i installed xp pro but when i thought the computer forze i turned it off and when it started back up it went to the fetail error blue screen and the cd-rom would not load any cds so i un hooked that hard drive and hooked up the otherone and installed ms-dos on it i thought it i would beabel to up grade from that but i have no idea how to upgrade from ms-dos i don't know the way to type the words in or witch path to go

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#8
February 26, 2010 at 17:27:38
http://claymania.com/dos-primer.html

And again, 191MB of RAM isn't enough to do much of anything useful with XP. You need to attack that problem first.


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#9
February 26, 2010 at 18:21:01
The method I mentioned in # 4 above should work to install XP. As T-R-A says, you don't have much ram but you do have enough to do the install.

And, as far as 'upgrading' from ms dos--you don't. You do a fresh install of 95 or a fresh install of XP

You say you got the blue screen and the cdrom would not load any cds. You obviously didn't have a working OS at that time so does 'load' mean the tray wouldn't open or that it wouldn't boot from the cd?

I suggest you try booting from your XP cd. Make sure the cdrom is the first boot device in cmos/bios setup.

Also, you may not have needed to put another hard drive in. The crash you experienced with the old one may have been a software issue and not related to the drive.

You're not really green until you're soylent green.


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