old backup to be restored

March 29, 2011 at 21:48:25
Specs: Windows 98, Pentium 4 2.93 ghz/2 ghz ram
My brother gave an old backup he wanted restored so he could read the data. The label on the one backup file is" pcbackup.001" etc. (etc. meaning the tag .001, .002) and the other tag is " .bak". I have an old backup copy of Central Point PC Tools from a Windows 3.1 backup that I installed on Windows 98 to be able to use the DOS that I think is one of the backup programs used. The problem is CP Backup so old that it doesn't recognize the 3.5" 1.44m floppy drive. It only lists the 5..25" 1.2m and 320k floppies and fixed disk and removable disk. I chose the removable disk option and the disk spun up but I got an error message " Bad Disk". I tryed the "Backup Program" using the same options, with the same result using a formatted blank disk so I figured a formatting conflict. PC Tools has a format function which I tryed to use and got a message saying "The Wrong DOS" was being used and couldn't do the format.
I tryed the fixed disk option for "Restore" but I think my command of "CP Backup" being a little more than rusty (I used to use MW Backup in Windows 3.1) it wouldn't work either.
Another cause might be the fact that the data came to me on a USB data stick that I had problems with installing on Windows 98 hard disk, so i used my Windows XP hard disk running NTFS file system and copying them to the Windows 98 running FAT32 and might have corrupted them that way but I don' t think so.
So my problem is: How do I get "PC Tools" to work under Windows 98 DOS or maybe a later version able to recognize the backup tags and use the 3.5" 1.44m floppy drive or maybe a program allowing me to format the floppies to 1.2m format.
Also if anybody has an idea of the backup programs that use the tags ".bak" and "pcbackup.001" (I'm not sure that PC Tools was used) I'd appreciate the info. It'll be a waalk down memory lane because the date of the backups was done in June 1991.
Thanks
Tom


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#1
March 30, 2011 at 00:32:00
Well don't format the disks or try some 'repair' utility. You'll only ruin them.

I believe cpbackup was used with some of the pcdos versions. I have pcdos 6.3 and can check to see if it's on there.

I also recall seeing some central point disks but I've got boxes full of old floppies so it might take awhile to find them.

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#2
March 30, 2011 at 01:21:45
Thanks DAVE . I was only going try and reformat the disks so PC Tools could recognize the floppy (maybe) just for a work around. I tried the 1.2m option in Winimage but it gave me an error message right at the start of the disk, so no go there. I think the only option I've got is to load up an old hard disk with an older version of DOS and try to restore the files from the hard drive.

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#3
March 30, 2011 at 01:31:15
I've never used that utility and don't know what condition your disks are in so I can't really give you any advice on fixing it but I'll try to locate any versions of that software I might have and we'll see if it works out.

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#4
March 30, 2011 at 13:16:54
I finally got the command lines straight (LOL) for Central Point Backup to view the directory tree in Windows 98 DOS and did a sample backup from "C:\Backup" to "C:\Restore" to check the tag lines. They came back labeled "CPBACKUP.001" rather than "PCBACKUP.001". The tag is the same but label is different, so I'm wondering if maybe it was backed up by a different version of Central Point PC Tools. I have Version 8 . If you find any of your old disks or any other information that is pertainent , please pass it on. It's greatly appreciated. As can see by my first line my memory has some pretty big holes in it.
Thanks
Tom

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#5
March 30, 2011 at 22:32:54
I wasn't sure if it was cpbackup or pcbackup, where the wrong one was a typo. But it looks like they're two separate types. Or they might both be central point backups but different versions.

I read that norton acquired PC tools and thought maybe they incorporated it in Norton Utilities. I have an old dos version of NU but it wasn't there. I've got an NU disk for 95 I'll check (well, when I find it) and see if it's on that.

I haven't had a chance to check any of that stuff yet. I copied the pcdos 6.3 disks to my 98 machine when I got them several months ago so I need to hook it up to check that out.

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#6
April 2, 2011 at 11:52:07
I finally checked pcdos 6.3 and it does have cpbackup. There are several other files starting with CP that may or may not be part of the program. Since those are just the files on the setup disks, to know for sure I'd have to install 6.3. I could probably email you image files of the disks if you wanted to try it.

I've had company over and had to do some house cleaning and haven't had a chance to look for the Central Point disks but should be able to do it in the next week.

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#7
April 15, 2011 at 22:15:42
Are you still there? I found a 3-disk set of 'central point PC tools deluxe version 6'. I don't know if that's all the disks in that set or not. They're 720K disks. I may have more disks but I have literally thousands of floppy disks in various boxes around the house so it might be awhile.

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#8
April 15, 2011 at 23:01:19
Thanks DAVE:
After trying about three or four never fail solutions I've given up and sent the data stick back with the stuff I was able to retrieve. First I made the stick a bootable dos disk so he would be able to read it on his Windows 7 computer and if he has to work in DOS he just has to boot up the stick and work it from there. I also included my version of PC Tools so he has that. I think that the problem might have been that the backups he sent me on the stick (I didn't get the original disks which were probably 1.2m) didn't include the identifiers. When I did a sample backup with my copy of PC Tools I got two other files labeled CPBACKUP.INF and CPBACKUP.DIR along with CPBACKUP.001 so I think that's why none of the restore programs worked.
Thanks anyway for all the help!
Tom

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#9
April 16, 2011 at 00:37:30
You're welcome. Hope it all works out for him.

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