Solved MS-DOS 7.10 and Win 95 GUI

March 14, 2013 at 09:04:03
Specs: MS-DOS 7.10 Greek, 486 / 33 Mhz
Anybody wishing to describe me the process of installing Win 95 GUI on top of an installation of MS-DOS 7.10? I am already able to start Win 3.11 GUI...

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March 14, 2013 at 20:14:51
Is 7.1 the version that came with 95 or was that 98 or ME?

There's a couple of things you could do. The first is install 95 and use a boot loader to decide whether you boot to dos or 95.

But I think the easiest way is to start over with a clean drive and just install 95. Then edit the BOOTGUI line in msdos.sys to read BOOTGUI=0. That way it will alway boot to dos. From there you can install and run 3.1. You'll need to install 3.1 in a directory NOT named 'windows' since that's where 95 will be.

To run 95 after booting to dos that way you just need to type WIN.

Since both 3.1 and 95 start with their own versions of the win.com command in their respective directories you'll need to use the appropriate one to start whichever windows you plan on using.

The windows 95 dos commands are in the WINDOWS\COMMAND directory so you may want to add that path in autoexec.bat.

I've never had occasion to try that set up but there's no reason it shouldn't work.



#1
March 14, 2013 at 09:45:07
Windows 95 is an operating system, not a GUI. You cannot install it on top of DOS; it replaces DOS.

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March 14, 2013 at 10:07:10
Win 95 is a full operating system not just a GUI as Win 3.X; DOS 7.10 on the contrary is a hacked OS since Microsoft never released it as standalone component so it was enucleated from Windows 9X installations to behave as a DOS unofficial release. So stated you can manipulate Win 3.11 to run under DOS 7.10, but to have Win 95 GUI you need a third party application I am sure there is, but not Win 95.

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March 14, 2013 at 12:43:30
Hi Arisoue,

in my opinion W95 runs under dos, in that you first start the PC with dos as the os, then manually (or automatically using dos) load and run W95.

When first installing, again you load dos, then access the W95 installation cd to install.

Some installation cd's on loading will autorun to start, whereas others will require manual starting.

Windows o/s provides a gui, which is well explained here:-
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Graphi...

Good Luck - Keep us posted.


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March 14, 2013 at 14:26:24
No. DOS is a 16-bit OS, and makes use of the BIOS routines; Windows 95 is 32-bit, and does not. What you use to install Windows 95 is irrelevant, and whilst it may - or may not; I really don't know - be true that it uses DOS as a boot loader, there is no sense that it runs "under DOS". The nearest that you could say is that it runs after DOS.

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March 14, 2013 at 20:14:51
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Is 7.1 the version that came with 95 or was that 98 or ME?

There's a couple of things you could do. The first is install 95 and use a boot loader to decide whether you boot to dos or 95.

But I think the easiest way is to start over with a clean drive and just install 95. Then edit the BOOTGUI line in msdos.sys to read BOOTGUI=0. That way it will alway boot to dos. From there you can install and run 3.1. You'll need to install 3.1 in a directory NOT named 'windows' since that's where 95 will be.

To run 95 after booting to dos that way you just need to type WIN.

Since both 3.1 and 95 start with their own versions of the win.com command in their respective directories you'll need to use the appropriate one to start whichever windows you plan on using.

The windows 95 dos commands are in the WINDOWS\COMMAND directory so you may want to add that path in autoexec.bat.

I've never had occasion to try that set up but there's no reason it shouldn't work.


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#6
May 23, 2015 at 16:28:21
Windows 95 is NOT an operation system as MS propaganda made you want to believe but a graphical interface running on top of dos just like windows 3.1. People claiming otherwise here are talking nonsense, simple as that.
Granted windows 95 does run some things in 32-bit; but so does windows 3.x, only 95 a bit more. Biggest difference is that windows 95 and above are sold together with dos as one "operating system", pure marketing bs.

On the other hand, the whole NT series, from 3.1 to windows 8, are all fully 32 bit operation systems, that is why they are so much more stable, and dos runs virtually from within them (not talking about 64 bit versions of course)


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