How to connect to the internet with MS-DOS

June 14, 2012 at 03:23:17
Specs: MS-DOS 3.3, 640KB
Hello, I am trying to connect a Toshiba T1100 Plus to the internet and I just wanted to have some ideas about how people would go about doing it. I've tried to download several web browsers (such as DOSlynx), but most don't work because they are for later versions of DOS. Any ideas would be much appreciated!

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#1
June 14, 2012 at 03:38:37
Is it connectivity and hardware you need help with, or just finding a compatible web-browser?

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#2
June 14, 2012 at 03:46:24
Well, both connectivity and web browser help. Its just that i am unable to find any information on connecting a laptop from 1986 to the internet.

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#3
June 14, 2012 at 06:12:57
Hi Boac,

if the Toshiba has a hard disc, why not install dos version 6.22?

This is much better than 3.3.

Good Luck - Keep us Posted.


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#4
June 14, 2012 at 06:37:40
Unfortunately the t1100 plus does not have a hard drive (its already 4.5 kg!), so that is not an option that i have. And i cant find many compatable web browsers for ms-dos 3.3.

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#5
June 14, 2012 at 13:33:24
http://www.toshiba-europe.com/compu...

One difficulty is it only excepts 720K 1.44 diskettes, so space is a limitation, the other problem finding software is it has an 80C86 CPU which most newer **-DOS software will not support.

Internet Easy Way: You will need a dial-up Modem, an Analogue Phone Line and dial-up ISP account:

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/US-Roboti...

Software required Net-Tamer Text Only Browser/Internet Suite:

http://www.nettamer.net/tamer.html



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#6
June 14, 2012 at 16:46:42
Question: Why are you beating your head against the wall?

Answer: Because it feels so good when I stop.

You've got a nice little antique there. Stop beating your head against the wall and accept its limitations.


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#7
June 14, 2012 at 18:46:11
Yeah, 3.3 is ancient. I believe it was recorded on papyrus or maybe even cuneiformed into clay tablets, Lol! But I still like to keep my "antique" options open if possible, sometimes just out of curiousity or for kicks. I might even have a 3.3+
"windows for workgroups"... The only thiing I remember using with 3.3 is AOL. I hate
to send anyone in that direction, but that might be your only option. I think even netscape needed more than 3.3 dos. If you can't find old versions of these, let me know: I used to keep aol diskettes just to write over, and I might still have some.

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#8
June 15, 2012 at 04:08:44
Thank you for your help jolicloud, as I dont have control over the internet or the ISP in my house but I have found this website (http://www.freeukisp.co.uk/) which offers free dial up internet (you are just charged for you phone use). Would I be able to use this site in conjuction with a dial up modem and net-tamer? Also, the laptop does not have the expansion card so it does not have an ethernet port (just RS232, PRT/FDD and RGB), would I be able to use an RS232 to ethernet cable?

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#9
June 15, 2012 at 04:45:48
Ah i have tried to run net-tamer, but i gte the message 'Error 61 occurred in line 0 of module NETTAMER at address 0CB0:0A95. Hit any key to return to system'. I have tried DOSlynx and that seems to work, but would i need any aditional programs in order to connect to the internet? (sorry for all of the questions!)

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#10
June 15, 2012 at 04:59:28
Well, have you got a dial-up Modem like I posted above ?

Googling is quicker than waiting for an answer....


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#11
June 15, 2012 at 05:05:57
Oh now net-tamer does run (it was because i was missing some files). And no i dont have a dial up modem yet (i didnt want to buy one without knowing if it was possible to connect the computer to the internet), but i will order one soon.

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#12
June 15, 2012 at 07:36:26
Have you an analogue phone line, you seem to be only answering parts of questions in both postings...............

Googling is quicker than waiting for an answer....


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#13
June 15, 2012 at 10:39:21
You only asked one question: 'Well, have you got a dial-up Modem like I posted above ?', therefore I answered it. Unfortunately I have a digital phone line.

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#14
June 15, 2012 at 13:03:48
"ยง5 Internet Easy Way: You will need a dial-up Modem, an Analogue Phone Line and dial-up ISP account:"

Obviously you do not have an anlogue line therefore a dial-up modem is useless.

The only solution is to use another machine to pipe internet over a Laplink Parallel Port Cable:

http://users.ohiohills.com/fmacall/...


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#15
June 25, 2012 at 05:00:53
Getting a laptop from that era on the internet is tough. As Jolicloud says, the only way is to use another machine as a pipe. If this is done, then it is just possible to connect - even with ethernet. But then there is the packet driver problem. You would ideally like to load the packet driver and hope you can automatically get the DHCP server to assign an IP, etc. Not as easy as just plug and hope.

IF you manage to get past the issues with loading a packet driver AND IF interrupt vector settings allow it AND IF the laptop is setup just like a slave to the computer used as a pipe, then you could manually avoid the DHCP and use the host computer IP settings.

Frankly, I couldn't bother with all the hassle. Especially since you most certainly would not have protected mode without a hard drive.

However, I can understand your desire to break the obsolescence barrier. It's a fun achievement to get something like that running on today's web. Even with a text-based browser.

DOSLYNX is the best. I email Fred MacCall from time to time to see what he is up to. I have an old machine running on ethernet using DOSLYNX (the 'S' edition) and it is a thing of beauty to see DOS running on the internet. I still works to this day, using PC-DOS 5.

I should mention that Arachne (a DOS graphical browser) works well too. However, I would recommend a large Ram Drive to run it from. With a Ram Drive, Arachne is a thing of beauty as well.


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#16
June 26, 2012 at 10:53:15
Even if you could get AOL running I think you would be hard pressed to find AOL for DOS. The oldest version I have is AOL 1.1 (http://sdfox7.com/win31/AOL11.EXE) which was written for Windows 3.x interface, I doubt it would run without a GUI. Also, according to this December 2000 Computing.net post, AOL for DOS no longer connects to AOL. However, I can confirm that AOL 1.1 and later clients do still connect. IMO the most optimal situation would be to get MS-DOS 6.22 running on there with Windows 3.x and AOL 3.0 (http://sdfox7.com/win31/AOL30.EXE).

MS-DOS is quite old, as the post said AOL had blocked it from connecting back in 2000, maybe earlier. While it's true that Windows 3.x runs on top of MS-DOS, the Windows 3.x GUI was a far more viable environment than MS-DOS alone and can still be used these days for email, internet browsing over a high speed TCP/IP broadband connection and Microsoft Office documents.

"Unfortunately the t1100 plus does not have a hard drive"

If the computer does not have a hard drive how did MS-DOS 3.3 get on there? Is it run from disks?

http://sdfox7.com


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#17
July 8, 2012 at 07:36:31
Though this is a little late, it may provide some help (especially if you're trying to connect a very old machine):

http://www.brutman.com/mTCP/

"Channeling the spirit of jboy..."


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