Video Encoders are Pathetic

March 2, 2011 at 01:33:55
Specs: Windows XP
Is it just me or does basically every encoder decrease the quality, increase the file size, and completely suck? This really needs to be said. Video encoding on all fronts just completely stinks. Too many formats, too many different compression codecs, too much to update, DVD players may as well have expected lifetime of 6 months because the codecs get out of date...

AVS video converter and Xilisoft just both completely suck for converting to FLV, MKV, AVI or any other popular format. You guys who make those programs are the worst programmers known to mankind. Come on, make another ridiculous format that doesn't work properly and makes a million DVD players obsolete.

Take a note out of the Photoshop book (and learn something useful for a change). The web accepts 3 image formats: JPG, GIF, and PNG. And that's pretty much all. Each has only its own native compression formats (not 100 different plugged in, ineffective compression methods). DVD player should also accept a maximum of 3 formats with only native compression formats.

So my question: Why should I have to study the nuances of video encoding just to play a video in a DVD player, and why don't all you video codec programmers look for real jobs and stop building new floors on a skyscraper? Bloody idiots


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#1
March 2, 2011 at 01:37:47
"Why should I have to study the nuances of video encoding just to play a video in a DVD player".

I've never had any problem with just putting the disk in the DVD player and pressing "Play". Am I doing something wrong?


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#2
March 2, 2011 at 01:49:59
that's because you're using a DVD that's already been coded in DVD video format. You aren't doing the legwork. Try an MKV in a video player made a year or 2 ago...
Then try viewing a JPG that was made yesterday in a web browser that was made 10 years ago. Then try to see what I'm saying.

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#3
March 2, 2011 at 02:35:19
Why would I want to encode in a format that the DVD player doesn't support? If you don't like the many formats available then just stick with one you like.

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#4
March 2, 2011 at 02:43:47
Ok wizkid, now that we have established that you have a more positive outlook on the unnecessary amount of formats available, would you please be so kind as to educate me as to what software will convert any video format into DVD format in virtually equal quality as the input file. Photoshop can do this with images. Who is the video equivalent of Photoshop? *Crickets Chirping*

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#5
March 2, 2011 at 03:18:14
I can see that you're angry about something, but I'm not quite sure what it is. I'm not clear whether your problem is with input video formats or the ones that you use to write a DVD. If it's the latter, just find one that you like and stick with it; don't bother about all the other unnecessary formats.

Anyway, I suspect that you're just enjoying a little rant rather than seeking an answer, so I'll leave it at that. *Tumbleweed Rolling*


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#6
March 2, 2011 at 03:35:05
Not really a rant, more like a guy at the end of a long and fruitless search.

What I have searched for is a program that will do the following and no less:
Take a video file in any video format, convert it into any video format that will work on a DVD player (DVD format is fine), and do so in a way that keeps the quality either the same or only slightly less.

Is that too ambitios?


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#7
March 2, 2011 at 14:07:06
Yes since some formats are made to deliver acceptable output on less than optimum hardware.

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#8
March 2, 2011 at 14:34:13
"Take a video file in any video format, convert it into any video format that will work on a DVD player (DVD format is fine), and do so in a way that keeps the quality either the same or only slightly less."

Keeping the quality the same is impossible. Going from one format to another is called transcoding and you are always going to get degradation in quality, period. Slighty less quality is very possible. It depends on what format you convert it to and the compression level.

I use a program called Super and it works very well for transcoding.

http://www.erightsoft.com/SUPER.html

By the way, why are you blaming AVS and Xilisoft for crappy conversion and making bad formats. They didn't create those formats, they just make software that converts them.

AND you say to Take a note out of the Photoshop book and make video formats as good as those. I have news for you my friend, Photoshop is made by Adobe. FLV (one of the formats you are ragging about) is also made by Adobe. They aren't perfect either.


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