Will it work?

March 9, 2011 at 22:03:00
Specs: Windows 7
Hey so I was planning to buy AMD Phenom II X4 Black Edn 955 AM3 Quad Core 3.2GHz CPU
for my comp and was wondering if it will work with my current motherboard I dont know what motherboard I got all I know is its product code that is Compaq presario - CQ3217IN
my current processor is AMD althon 64 single core. any help will be apreciated

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#1
March 9, 2011 at 23:06:41
We need system model #. If it came with A64 i don't think if it will support new chip's.

We can not fight new wars with old weapons, let he who desires peace prepare for war - PROPHET.


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#2
March 10, 2011 at 01:31:34
this is its model number CQ3217IN
EDIT: found out my its Board: PEGATRON CORPORATION NARRA5 5.00

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#3
March 10, 2011 at 06:21:58
Personally, I wouldn't waste a Black Edition CPU on that outdated motherboard. For one thing, there's no guarantee it will work. For another, Black Edition CPUs are for enthusiasts/overclockers & your HP system is NOT overclockable, 3rd, the Geforce 6150SE/nForce4 chipset combo the board is based on has been around for a LONG time. It was originally used on socket 754/939 systems over 5 yrs ago so it does not support Hypertransport 3.0.

http://h20000.www2.hp.com/bizsuppor...

Which single core CPU do you currently have? What is it that you can't do with the current CPU? Do you have at least 2GB RAM? Did you upgrade the power supply? The Phenom you mentioned is rated at 125W so chances are the stock power supply will be totally inadequate. Which video card do you have? Or are you still using the weak Geforce integrated graphics that is NOT good for gaming?


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#4
March 10, 2011 at 06:24:47
I cant play bc2 and games like that on high :/
not even on low q_q
i have 2.80 gigahertz AMD Athlon LE-my rams 4 gig and dunno how to increase power supply :/
I got gt 240 as my graphics card
was planning to buy the processor and raedeon 5770 for my comp :/ i am not sure if i will able to run it on high just after buying that graphics card thats why i am buying a processor to be sure

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#5
March 10, 2011 at 06:25:46
Re-read my other response, I added some additional comments/questions at the end.

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#6
March 10, 2011 at 06:48:08
Like I said, I don't know if the Black Edition CPU is supported or not. And because you have such an old motherboard, I wouldn't take the chance. If you do upgrade to that CPU & install a better gaming card, you will definitely need a new power supply. That means your total invertment will be approx $300 ($140/CPU + $100/video card + $60/PSU). That's an awfully lot of money to sink into an old/outdated system.

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#7
March 10, 2011 at 06:52:05
I am ready to invest that much but could you help me with building it up I mean what PSU to buy
if so then add my msn dylanpwn@live.co.uk

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#8
March 10, 2011 at 07:12:07
Sell it & start from scratch.

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#9
March 10, 2011 at 07:33:04
nah dont wanna sell it xD

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#10
March 10, 2011 at 08:31:17
That HP board is really just a piece of junk.

No, it will NOT support the Black Edition CPU. It has a max power draw of 89 TDP, while the X4 draws 125W. It will recognize it, but it will downclock the hell out of it, down to the equivalent of a single core 800Mhz cpu . http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/...

http://vip.asus.com/forum/view.aspx... This thread should help you.

It has 1 PCI-E expansion slot that you could upgrade the video card with- but honestly I would just trash that motherboard and get a new one for a couple hundred bucks.

The Power Supply will need to be upgraded either way. That is really not a hard task, it is only a matter of unplugging all the components and then plugging them into a new power supply. You can find lots of online instruction, including youtube videos- just search 'replace power supply' or 'PSU installation how to'.

For a new power supply, you should get at least a 650 watts PSU, preferably one that is 80+ bronze certified. Get one from a reliable manufacturer, such as Corsair, Coolermaster, or Antec. Do NOT buy a cheap one, or you could damage your computer.


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#11
March 10, 2011 at 08:34:02
well which is a cheap mobo that can run it then :/my budget is 350-400$ need to buy processor, graphics card, PSU and a mobo :/
can you link me to them ;o?

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#12
March 10, 2011 at 08:45:51
If you are looking to replace your GPU, CPU, mobo, and PSU... you might just wanna save up for a few months and get a new machine. You will be mostly gutting your current one, and its really not worth it on that HP.

Save your money up for a few months, and then let Avadirect build your next computer.

If that is absolutely not possible for you...

I don't think your case will support anything higher than a Micro-ATX motherboard. Are you sure a newer graphics card will fit in your case? If its a slimmer case, you should know that most graphics cards these days are ~11 inches long. You really oughtta measure to make sure one would fit.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Combo... There is an X4 mobo/CPU kit for $325. You could get a PSU for another $100, and a GPU for probably $75-100 if you shop around eBay. That brings you to about $425-500. For about $500 more, you could get a much better system.

But whatever you do- make sure you can fit a longer graphics card, and make sure you get a decent PSU.


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#13
March 10, 2011 at 08:49:39
Newegg is doing some sales right now too...

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Combo...

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Combo...

Those are great bundles with cases. Just add a PSU and some fans and you can have a budget gaming system.

They are having specials on CPUs, RAM, and PSU's right now.
http://promotions.newegg.com/neemai...


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#14
March 10, 2011 at 08:55:51
so confusing i dont wanna build up a new one :/ and arent all the graphics cards of the same size? i just need a good quad core processor that can run on my motherboard
just need all of this for bc2 and black ops i am thinking of getting althon dual core processor and radeon 5770 graphics card :/
well would intel processors work? like i5 or i7

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#15
March 10, 2011 at 09:45:27
i7 and i5 will not work with amd boards. Save some cash(less than $600) and buy a nice sandy brigde system(i3 2100, 4gb ddr3, gtx 460 1gb) that could handle any games and use your current system for back-up.

We can not fight new wars with old weapons, let he who desires peace prepare for war - PROPHET.


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#16
March 10, 2011 at 10:36:56
No, all graphics cards are NOT the same size. The newer they get, the larger they get.The ATI 5770 is ~8.5 inches, so make sure that will fit in your HP case. The GT240 you are using is anywhere from 6.5-7.5 inches, depending on who made it. I will say that the ATI 5770 is not a really good value for its performance. For $200 you can get an ATI 5870, which is almost double the performance.

Anyways, its really up to you. The bottom line is you are sinking money into a case and motherboard that are outdated and not suited to what you want to do. Recommendation is to build a better machine, and not try to keep that one alive. If you have to stay with that HP, I gave you links with motherboards, CPUs, and other parts that are on sale at Newegg for as cheap as you'll find anywhere. Go with our recommendations and get a Micro-ATX motherboard, an AMD CPU, new power supply, and a graphics card.

The new Sandy Bridge Intel CPU's, i.e. the Core i3 2100, the Core i5 2500, and the Core i7 2600, are all WAY better than anything AMD has on the market right now. They are somewhat affordable, however you will still end up spending over $200 on a CPU/motherboard combo. Add in another $40 for new DDR3 RAM, and another $200 for PSU and graphics card...shop around those links I gave you and figure what works with your budget, and what it is you really want to do. Upgrade now with those cheap parts and you'll want to upgrade again in a year or two. Get a solid brand new machine now and you'll be set for 3-4 years. Up to you.

EDIT: Also, you can NOT use an Intel CPU with an AMD motherboard, or an AMD CPU with an Intel motherboard. No way, no how.


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#17
March 11, 2011 at 01:37:57
Well now I am ready to build up a new machine but I dont know how to put the parts together so Ima just youtube that after I get the parts for now I need a deal that has - i7 proecessor, a motherboard that can hold that, Radeon 5770, a good PSU and a cheap case that can hold all of that a 300-500 gb harddrive will do I dont need alot of that if anyone finds a good deal on that please link me :D
EDIT : oh I found this and I like this
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...

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#18
March 11, 2011 at 07:08:07
"I found this and I like this deal"

That's no deal.


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#19
March 11, 2011 at 07:11:52
w.e ._.

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#20
March 11, 2011 at 10:08:20
What you linked was a $1050 system after you complained your budget was only a few hundred dollars.

If you ask for solutions under $500, you get solutions under $500.

If you want to spend $1050, that is not the best way to spend it. You could get twice the performance and newer/higher quality parts for that kind of money.

You don't seem to want to listen though, so I won't waste my time anymore.


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#21
March 11, 2011 at 12:08:20
Try this.....

Or this!


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#22
March 11, 2011 at 17:31:12
Or this:
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applicat...
but change out the power supply
Like:
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applicat...
And add a nice video card.

You have to be a little bit crazy to keep you from going insane.


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#23
March 11, 2011 at 23:33:43
i asked my dad for more money and he said yes thats why my budget changed stop bsing around if you dont wanna waste your time >_>
i like that asus one sounds good as i aint a hardcore gamer that should be fine o_o now only thing left is a graphics card what do you think about gtx 560?

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#24
March 12, 2011 at 15:55:35
Spec's look good for gaming, But watch the power supply, they list 500W min and 30A 12v bus so stay around 600W+ with a single 12v bus (multiple busses will not have enough amps available for video card) like the one above. Here are a bunch of them:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...

You have to be a little bit crazy to keep you from going insane.


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#26
March 14, 2011 at 08:09:38
Why are you shopping at Tiger Direct?

- that same RAM is $10 cheaper at newegg.

- if you can possibly avoid it, do NOT get a tower with a bottom mounted power supply. Here's why: The Problem of Bottom-Mounted Power

- do not buy a Coolmax power supply. There are much better brands available plus you do NOT need a 950W unit. Something in the 600W range will be more than adequate. Look for a unit with a single +12v rail, not multiple +12v rails. It should have active PFC & have an efficiency rating of 80 plus. Also, modular PSUs should be avoided.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...

- why are you getting a water cooling unit? Do you plan on overclocking the hell out of your CPU or do you just like to waste your dad's money?


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#27
March 14, 2011 at 09:14:08
I had some suggestions... but this guy obviously thinks we are here just to supply him information as if we get paid to do this.

A little show of appreciation for other peoples free time will go a long way for you. Your dad should save his money and teach you that instead.

Good luck.


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#28
March 14, 2011 at 12:39:40
I dont buy it from newegg because my friend told me they dont ship to India o-o
@- do not buy a Coolmax power supply. There are much better brands available plus you do NOT need a 950W unit. Something in the 600W range will be more than adequate. Look for a unit with a single +12v rail, not multiple +12v rails. It should have active PFC & have an efficiency rating of 80 plus. Also, modular PSUs should be avoided.
I dont really get what you mean there cause i barely know a thing about comps xD well I am buying a 950W cause people said you might need a good psu for graphics card. and well yes i was planning to overclock it but I will let that pass I guess dont wanna reduce its life term
@jdfry7 No I dont think that. I just think you are the people who have the right knowledge about these things if I would have had some knowledge about comps I wouldnt have been here lmao I do not have any knowledge about the parts not alot about I just got to this thing about building own comps a week ago what do you want me to be a techpro or what? Thats why I am posting what all I like to ask your advices if the stuff I think is good worth it if you dont wanna then dont it wont make a diff 8D saying it again if you feel you are wasting your time jizz off already freak I dont need your so called advice lul.
How about this PSU - http://www.tigerdirect.com/applicat...
oh and one more thing I read many reviews saying that hard drives from there arent that good they die in some months o _o

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#29
March 14, 2011 at 13:30:09
"I dont buy it from newegg because my friend told me they dont ship to India"

You waited until the 28th response to let us know you're in India??

"I dont really get what you mean there cause i barely know a thing about comps"

That's painfully obvious.

"I am buying a 950W cause people said you might need a good psu for graphics card"

I don't know who these people are? No one in this forum recommended a 950W PSU. And I guarantee you no one would recommend Coolmax or Diablotek. Diablotek are absolute garbage. Are you paying any attention to the advice you're being given in this forum? Have you done any research about power supplies? JonnyGURU tests Diablotek PSUs because he enjoys watching them blow up! lol. Below is the last page of his review of the Diablotek 1050W, this line sums it up - "Buy something else, people" :

http://www.jonnyguru.com/modules.ph...

"i was planning to overclock it but I will let that pass I guess dont wanna reduce its life term"

You admit that you "barely know a thing about comps" but you plan on overclocking? Don't even consider it. Who's going to put all this hardware together? Not you, I hope?


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#30
March 14, 2011 at 20:27:32
Either you need to learn about computers rather fast, or you should consider finding some place local that sells custom gaming systems.
You need to select components that make sense together, If you plan on using a single quality gaming card within your budget you can look up what they recommend for power supply. They will give you what should work with most systems. It is OK to go up a little from say 500W to 650W, but as above the quality and the amperage of the rails can mean more than simply the wattage. Also I believe that India uses 230Volts and you are purchasing from an American source (110Volts) so you must make sure that the power supply you choose includes a switch for selecting input voltage and make sure you select the correct one BEFORE you plug it in. And speaking of plugging it in, it will come with a USA plug type so you will need to use a local/European power cord or use an adapter. This is just a small example of the many things you will need to know to choose wisely. You will need quality memory of the right speed/version and enough memory without getting excessive depending on the CPU/Motherboard you choose, and you will need to take into account NOW if you will be overclocking since ALL of your choices will need to be able to handle the stress without getting excessively expensive. If you will be doing work/homework and gaming on your system then any overclocking you do will need to be moderate overclocking due to the need to be extremely stable for your primary uses. Water cooling is one of those things that is for extreme overclocking, or possibly for an experienced overclocker who is building an extreme gaming rig. You will need to do a lot of research into everything to get the balance right (quality vs speed vs durability vs price).

By the way the hard drives from one online store are not any better or worse than another, it is the manufacturer that makes quality or not. I have found that over the years while popular, Seagate drives have more failures than Western Digital (Maxtor were also good drives, but now Seagate bought them). Fact: My first computer, a Gateway 2000 Windows 95 machine had a drive failure and it was a Seagate and Gateway replaced it with a Maxtor that they said was better. My daughter daughter came home from college for a break and her desktop (Windows XP) would not turn on, it turned out to be a drive failure and it was a Seagate. My older daughter began having trouble with her fairly old laptop, her neighbor was a computer repair tech and told her the drive was gone. I was able to recover all of her photos, music, etc. that had not been backed up recently....Guess what drive it was.... You get the idea. These drives ALL worked well for a number of years, one over 5 years, but they were the one brand I consistently had problems with. I have a Maxtor drive that still works flawlessly at over 9 years old (now a back up drive on a newer system) and a number of Western Digital drives without any problems. MY experience.

You have to be a little bit crazy to keep you from going insane.


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#31
March 15, 2011 at 01:49:20
@mickliq My bad I guess :o told you that after a while xD. well I am paying attention to you peoples advices on the base of that I am collecting parts what else? xD well I wanted to overclock just to get the best performance out of it. I still aint sure whose gonna put the hardware together, I was planning to do it myself but meh I dont know what to plugin where so I am thinking of taking it to a guy who repairs these things and ask him to put em together but.... I aint if they can pull it off o _O
@Fingers I plan on learning by myself as its fun dont think anyone sells custom gaming comps here in india o _ o I did list what all I was gonna get I took off the water cooling system and changed the mobo this mobo http://www.tigerdirect.com/applicat... and for graphics card its gonna be a radeon 5770. well most of the reviews on tigeredit said that seagate hard drivers died in some months o-o

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