Was AMD's Bulldozer just Hype?

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October 12, 2011 at 17:28:08
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All the hype of Bulldozer's build up for months and it shows little gain over Phenom II's. For all of us wating for AMD to beat Intels Sandy Bridge in which AMD claimed it would in many benchmarks, it has turned out to be dissapointing to say the least. So dissapointing that even the Phenom II X6 1100T is able to perform around the same level if not beat the FX 8150 8c in some benchmarks.

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#1
October 12, 2011 at 19:13:53
Does it really matter.Since most people on here are buying midrange parts and overclocking, So if amd`s best cant beat intel`s best does it really matter. I know I would never spend $1000 on a cpu when I can get real close to the performance level by spending a couple hundred and overclocking . I think the amd is better than intel and vice versa is a little long in the tooth and I could care less. I will leave the bleeding edge to the buyers who like the pretty pictures on the shiny new boxes.
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#2
October 12, 2011 at 20:09:26
I personally do not use AMD processors (I cannot seriously explain why, probably a mental barrier). I Do not spend for exotic extreme processors. I Do not build a new system just because a new CPU is out.
I DO appreciate that AMD is giving Intel competition. I DO feel that this competition is making both companies create some very good processors. I DO feel that this competition is helping both companies offer some really down to earth pricing on some of those really good models.
My gaming is fairly limited and my OC Core 2 Duo does just fine for me so I am not quite ready to build another system, but the 2500K is probably the way I would lean right now if I were to build at this time, though the Bulldozers do sound like they target the builder/gamer that would look at the 2500K or the 2600K as unlocked processors. This should also force Intel to offer similarly priced unlocked 6 and 8 core CPU's in the reasonable range, though 2 to 4 cores it probably all I would need for a while. If my daughter needs a new machine for Autocad and Photoshop this year or early next, I will rethink it since then more would be better.

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#3
October 12, 2011 at 20:14:33
wemby089, the fact that you can buy a midrange (which targets the people that you are talking about( core i5 2500k for 60 dollars less that outperformas an 8 core FX 8150 in many areas is something that many midrange builders will consider. So yes it does matter if you are talking about a price/performance ratio in which many midrange builders build their hardware around that notion.

Yes there is In fact, considering i'm still on an AM2+ system with a Phenom X4 9750 that's showing it's age especially in the graphical work i do on my computer. Even though I just recently upgraded my gpu to a Radeon 6800 series from a Radeon 3800 series, my cpu is bottlenecking the gpu's full pontential in the amount of time it takes for me to render graphical workloads now. I was debating on building an Intel Sandy Bridge system or an Bulldozer system which is why I was holding out until the release of Bulldozer to build my system around my new Radeon 6900 seires gpu and now that I have my mind made up, i'm going with the Sandy Bridge based system, because of the price and performance I can get out of it vs the Bulldozer based system.

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#4
October 12, 2011 at 23:11:10
It was slower than the Phenom X6 in nearly half of the benchmarks. IPC down, power consumption up. AMD should've called it Phenom 4 (P4...lol).

Disappointing, to say the least. I've been using AMD processors in my main builds since the Athlon 600, but it looks like the next one will have to be Intel based.

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#5
October 13, 2011 at 08:00:00
I knew from the beginning bulldozer isn't going to compete with sandy bridge chips, 22nm ivy bridge chips is going to be out soon and AMD started 32nm journey bad(one step behind).
If they want to compete with INTEL they should start from the bottom(kill pentium's and celeron's).
May be after ivy bridge we will not see new INTEL chips for some time.

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#6
October 13, 2011 at 15:44:38
I think the problem was with AMD's marketing. If AMD wouldn't have overhyped it like they did and instead told people that was was going to be a modest update in which it is, then peoples expectations wouldn't have been so hight for Bulldozer.Imo they should have just named it Phenom III, because that's basicly the type of cpu you would think now of Bulldozer compared to Denab.

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