upgrade processor graphics card,advice

Dell / Inspiron 530
January 14, 2011 at 13:17:18
Specs: Windows Vista, 1.8 GHz / 3316 MB
Upgrade processor and graphics card. I am an artist and i do video edits and watch a lot of HD. I want to start some lite gaming too. I want to upgrade the processor and graphics card and probably the ps. Its a inspiron 530. Here is the processor specs.Version: 4.30.20101214
Time Stamp: 2011/01/14 20:37:11
Operating System: 6.0-6002-Service Pack 2
Number of processors in system: 1
Current processor: #1
Active cores per processor: 2
Disabled cores per processor: 0
Processor Name: Intel(R) Pentium(R) CPU E2160 @ 1.80GHz
Type: 0
Family: 6
Model: F
Stepping: D
Revision: A3
Maximum CPUID Level: A
L1 Instruction Cache: 2 x 32 KB
L1 Data Cache: 2 x 32 KB
L2 Cache: 1 MB
Packaging: LGA775
Enhanced Intel SpeedStep(R) Technology: Yes
MMX(TM): Yes
Intel(R) SSE: Yes
Intel(R) SSE2: Yes
Intel(R) SSE3: Yes
Intel(R) SSE4: No
Intel(R) AES-NI: No
Intel(R) AVX: No
Enhanced Halt State: Yes
Execute Disable Bit: Yes
Intel(R) Hyper-Threading Technology: No
Intel(R) 64 Architecture: Yes
Intel(R) Virtualization Technology: No
Expected Processor Frequency: 1.80 GHz
Reported Processor Frequency: 1.80 GHz
Expected System Bus Frequency: 800 MHz
Reported System Bus Frequency: 800 MHz
I have 4 gig ram and run vista 32 bit

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January 14, 2011 at 15:43:32
Your system support up to core 2 quad but since u mentioned "lite gaming" i recommend not to upgrade cpu. There's pci-e x16 slot for v-card but the problem is 300w psu. U need v-card that uses low power like hd 5570 or 5550 with gddr5.
If u plan to play newer games u need new cpu, psu, and v-card.

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January 14, 2011 at 19:19:16
Thank you so much for sharing your wisdom,
I have decided to go ahead and upgrade to a quad processer and I will also upgrade the power supply and graphics card. I was given two of these computers by my brothers office and they have had very little use. I'll go ahead and try some more advanced gaming and video editing.
So, can you suggest a quad core,power supply,graphics card? I don't have a big budget so I can do it in stages or if its not too much just go for it.
Your help is greatly appreciated! The options are very confusing and many.
Thanks again

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January 14, 2011 at 20:29:11
Apparently the 530,530a,530c take the Quad but the 530b and 530d do not.
Most games will get more out of a faster speed Duo and a faster FSB than a slower Quad so consider your budget (assuming you can use the Quad). A Core 2 Duo E8500 for under $200. (3.16GHz, 1333FSB) or a Core 2 Quad Q9505 for around $240. (2.83GHz, 1333FSB) (unless you want to spend over $300, then look at the E8600 or the Q9650).
Go with RAM 2 sticks of 2GB each of quality 800MHz DDR2 Dual Channel memory (2x2GB) unless that is what you already have.
For Graphics, look for a NVidia GTS450 (or above) (or the Radeon 5770 should be in the same range) with 1GB GDDR5 memory for modern games. (or a GTS250 if you can find a buy and if you can settle for a little less graphics performance)
AND you will need a quality Power supply with enough umph. Look at:

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January 14, 2011 at 21:39:11
I don't like the idea of buying outdated components. How much are u willing to spend? U can build amd quad core system with GTS 450 for 500 bucks.

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January 15, 2011 at 09:43:04
Before you jump the gun & buy a CPU that may not work, dig up the motherboard specs & confirm which CPUs are supported. I suggest you open the case & look for a model number, that way you'll be absolutely sure. Remember that you're working with a Dell, so the Dell BIOS is going to limit your CPU upgrade options. And it's not a great system so I suggest you keep your "investment" to a minimum.

You don't need a power supply upgrade as long as you get a reasonable video card, & since you mentioned light gaming, you don't need a top end card. AMD/ATI pretty much dominates the low end gaming card choices - HD 4650, HD 4670, HD 5550, HD 5570, HD 5670, although the Geforce GT 240 & GT 430 fit in that group as well. GDDR5 > GDDR3/DDR3 > GDDR2/DDR2, show watch which memory type the card uses.

Although quad-core CPUs have been available for some time, the software has yet to catch up. There are few apps that take advantage of a quad. If you feel you need a new CPU, power supply & video card, you'd be better off selling your system for whatever you can get (or keep it as a backup) & start from scratch. A self-built system is almost always better than an OEM system, provided you know how to properly match the hardware.

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January 15, 2011 at 10:36:29
I agree in keeping the investment down. The motherboard I think is

Motherboard ID 02/24/2009-1.0.18-6A79O009C-00
I have 4 gigs 667ghz ram installed. Maybe I should just upgrade the Graphics card and possibly the power supply and stop till I can afford to build a decent setup.

I'm learning! So, which is a good graphics card and power supply to buy? I like to watch HD tv etc. My monitor is a Samsung HD.

Thanks for your ideas


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January 15, 2011 at 10:53:35
I am kinda handy on the mechanical side and building a whole new unit from the ground up sounds fun. Good way to learn. Is there a protocol or plans to follow? I know that the components are getting better every day. From what I read it seems I could build an awesome computer setup.
Thanks again for your help. Thanks for your ideas.


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January 21, 2011 at 11:59:50
If I could overclock my 530 and just upgrade my graphics card? I have directv and I can't watch dvr programs on my comp. Their software says it is my CPU and graphics card that needs to be upgraded.

I appreciate any ideas.


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January 21, 2011 at 14:18:26
You cannot overclock on your OEM set up since the manufacturer has the BIOS custom made for them and it is missing the necessary ability to change the necessary settings.
If you get a decent graphics card and power supply, then you can plan on using them both on a future build, but as most are advising you should not spend too much on a processor since it would not be usable on a future build unless you are limiting yourself to the older socket 775 and you should be looking forward towards the newest socket 1155 processors (if you stay with Intel) for the future. This is the way I see it:
GTS450 or GTX450 graphics $100.00 - $150.00 (usable in the future)
or for lighter gaming:
GT240 or 250 series graphics $75.00 - $100.00 (usable if you avoid the heavier gaming)
600Watt - 650Watt Power Supply $65.00 - $95.00 (usable in the future, avoid the cheapest) [a better 500Watt PS would probably be enough, but they are about the same price range]
and if you still want it:
Microcenter has the Core 2 Duo E7500 still on sale at $89.00 (around $124.00 NewEgg last I looked) so you get a nice boost in performance without the much higher price of the quad or E8400 Duo.

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January 21, 2011 at 14:57:17
Thanks for your time,
I think I will just get a graphics card and a ps for now. The more I learn the more I don't know. The card I have now is really bad so its got to go. I was reading about a BSEL mod. I don't know if that is feasible in my situation. I wouldn't have the foggiest idea how to do it. Building a unit from scratch seems like the better idea.
That way the profit the manufacture would have received goes toward quality and performance. Is the BSEL mod possible?

Anyway thanks for your help. I'm going to order a card now.

Does anyone have an idea how much a build it from scratch unit would cost for decent performance and upgrade-ability?

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January 21, 2011 at 16:04:38
Depending on the graphics card you choose and your current power supply, you may need to upgrade the PS at the same time. Look up the specs for your card and they will usually give you minimum specs needed and then see what your PS is rated at. If you get a new PS, look at the wattage plus what the 12v amp rating on the rails(s), plus make sure that you get all of the connectors you need for now AND to use it again for that future build.
As far as BSEL, I never heard of the reference before this and it sounds interesting but risky. If you have an extra computer you do not care about and want to experiment then I say do some solid research first then its up to you, but I do not think that it would keep you happy for long. I had a system that I built around an E2160 that practically was free for me and I overclocked it as far as the board would allow. It was noticeably faster and was good for a while (it was to be a temporary CPU until I had additional funds) but after a few months it wasn't enough really. I am now running an E7500 in it overclocked to 3.54GHz in the same system and I really is better. (but you would need a new board to do that, so your permanent solution will be one of the newer i3 or i5 processors or even one of the 2nd Gen i5's that just came out this month in a completely new system.)
As far as your next custom is concerned, it depends on you needs and how much you are able or willing to pay.
CPU = $100. - $200. - $300. or more
MB = $50. - $100. - $150. or more
PS = $50. - $100. or more
GPU = $75. - $100. - $200. or more
RAM = $70. - $100. or more
case = $30. - $50. or more
You could probably do a decent system for around $600., if you purchase only components now that could be use later that would certainly help.

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January 22, 2011 at 12:44:03
Thank you,

I'm going with the gts 450 and a 600 watt power supply. That should be good till I can build a good system.
If I did the motherboard and CPU would I basically have a new system? The only thing this unit is lacking for me is blueray,wireless and a tv card.

I was given two 530 computers for free. They didn't have a lot of use. So I'm tempted to play around with that BSEL technique. I found where some guy upped his 530 to over 3.++ GHz. It looks very easy.

Anyway thanks for all your help! I'm excited about the new graphics card and ps. The card that came with this comp is awful.

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January 22, 2011 at 12:56:16
The mod (BSEL),
Here is what I read about it.
BSEL & VID Mod Guide

This mod applies to most, if not all, Intel socket 775 CPU’s that use a 800MHz or 1066MHz FSB.

What is a BSEL mod?

A BSEL mod allows a CPU to be run at a higher speed via hardware modification, without changing any settings in software (Either the BIOS or via software such as SetFSB). Most motherboards (See notes for more about this) use voltage/ground from the pins on a CPU to determine the CPU’s FSB. The idea of a BSEL mod is to physically connect pins on a CPU, to make the motherboard ‘think’ that the CPU has a higher FSB than it actually does.

For example, the Intel Pentium Dual Core E2160 CPU (1.8GHz) has an FSB at 800MHz, a bus speed of 200MHz and a multiplier of 9 to give the CPU its speed of 1.8GHz (200 x 9). Now, if the pins on the CPU are connected like a CPU with a FSB of 1066MHz, the bus speed would now be 266MHz, and the CPU would now run at 2.4GHz (266 x 9).

Why would I need to do this?

If you’re motherboard can overclock your CPU from the BIOS, you probably don’t need a BSEL mod. However, for motherboards that have no overclocking settings, like OEM motherboards, this is a simple method of overclocking a CPU. Alternatively, if your motherboard’s BIOS has difficulty overclocking, the mod is a simple way to increase the CPU speed.

How do I do the mod?

To connect the pins on the CPU you will need:

Conductive ink pen or copper tape
Electrical tape

Connecting the pins:

Refer to the diagrams in this guide to make sure you’re connecting the right pins. Then, mask the pins you aren’t connecting with electrical tape, this isn’t 100% necessary but makes the job of connecting pins much easier. Connect the desired pins using the conductive ink pen, go grab a drink and a sandvich, and by the time you get back the ink should have dried.

BSEL mod diagrams


The VID mod is similar to the BSEL mod, but instead of increase the CPU’s frequency, it increases the voltage; it is done in the same way as the BSEL mod.

VID mod diagrams (GREEN = COVER)


• This is still an overclock, so it would be wise to stress test using Orthos, Prime95 Etc.
• To reverse the mod, simple remove the pin connections.
• It may be necessary to reset the BIOS to apply the mod.
• Intel Speedstep still works with the mod applied.
• Some motherboards use the CPUID to calculate the CPU FSB and not the pins, this mod WILL NOT work on these motherboards.


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January 22, 2011 at 13:04:02
Here is the link,

The diagrams for the mod I posted before (BSEL)


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January 22, 2011 at 15:57:49
I saw that same site when I Googled it yesterday. I cannot personally recommend this. If you decide to go ahead with it, observe temperatures and stress testing as any would with 'normal' overclocking. The highest you will probably get out of the E2160 is 333x9=2.97GHz with a 1333FSB capable board regardless of which method that is used. At this level you will probably need a small increase in the Vcore (I had one of these overclocked on a gigabyte motherboard until I purchased an E7500 which is now running at 3.54GHz).

As far as the board/CPU recommendations I would say that things will change over the next 3, 6, and 12 months (new CPU's, new platforms - some just released, others to expand on this soon) so recommendations would be best given when you are ready and you know what your use and your budget are.

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September 8, 2011 at 12:02:24
I was wondering if the E8500 is still a viable upgrade for the 530 inspiron, or if there is actually a better alternative right now. I've already upgraded my ps to 850w (saw a sale) added some ram sitting on 6GB. And installed a temporary Nvidia GT430. suggestions?

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September 8, 2011 at 19:48:59
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