Solved pc freeze after athlon 64 upgrade from sempron

December 7, 2013 at 00:24:45
Specs: Windows XP
Freeze within a couple minutes after istalling Athlon64. GA-K8VM800M Totally compatable, no bios upgrade available. Put sempron back in, away she goes. Can see athlon faster for time it does work. Running windows 32. Do I need 64? Is there a setting somewhere in bios I'm missing? Maybe os not installed on Sata hd properly? Online tutorials make it sound so easy. Ug. Any suggestions would be appreciated.
Thanks.

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December 7, 2013 at 16:16:40
"Overclock with Easy tune 5 (anything over 4% she crash) but doesn't seem to make much difference"

That's because you're overclocking with Easy Tune. The "correct" way to overclock is thru the BIOS, that way you have control over all the individual settings. You'd need to reduce the RAM setting to 166MHz (DDR333), reduce the HTT multiplier to 3x, lock the AGP clock at 67MHz, disable all Spread Spectrum settings, then begin raising the CPU reference clock 5MHz at a time, rebooting & testing after each increase. If/when the system becomes unstable, either bump up the CPU voltage a bit or lower the ref clock to the last stable setting. The voltage increase varies from CPU to CPU so it's a 'trial & error' thing.

Your Sempron 3000+ is a Paris core:

http://www.cpu-world.com/CPUs/K8/AM...

The A64 3400+ that you have is a NewCastle core:

http://www.cpu-world.com/CPUs/K8/AM...

Both CPUs are early models based on 130nm SOI technology. A Venice core A64 (90nm) would be the CPU to get.

http://www.computing.net/answers/cp...



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December 7, 2013 at 05:03:05
Your motherboard may or may not support that specific CPU, there are two major revisions so look at the motherboard for which you have and check out the CPU support list for that one.
Rev 1:
http://www.gigabyte.com/products/pr...
Rev 2:
http://www.gigabyte.com/products/pr...
CPU support list Rev 1:
http://www.gigabyte.com/support-dow...
CPU support list Rev 2:
http://www.gigabyte.com/support-dow...

You have to be a little bit crazy to keep you from going insane.


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December 7, 2013 at 06:05:43
If the CPU is the only change you made, that is the only thing you should be focusing on - not the hard drive, not the version of Windows. It's not worth running a 64-bit OS on that system anyway because it only supports up to 2GB RAM.

How much RAM do you have? You should have it maxed out with 2 x 1GB. No worry about dual channel, the old S754 CPUs don't support it. If your system isn't maxed out, adding RAM would improve performance moreso than a CPU upgrade. Plus you should have an actual video card, not the crappy onboard graphics. Also, most S754 Semprons overclock very well, 25% increase is typical. I'm curious if you ever tried?

As noted above by Fingers, there is more than one revision of the GA-K8VM800M plus you didn't tell which Sempron or which Athlon you have. That info is needed to be able to answer your question. Are you sure you installed the heatsink correctly with properly applied thermal paste? You should have used the "middle dot method", if you did it any other way, it could be the reason your system is locking up. Here's what it should have looked like before setting the heatsink in place:

http://images.pcworld.com/images/ar...

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December 7, 2013 at 10:27:22
Thanks for the quick reply guys,

More details on this system I built several years ago. (fyi, I was given the athlon64 3400+aep4ax so no loss if no workie). The only system I have ever built and the only pc I have ever owned so I think I'm doin good but havin a hard time streamin movie trailers. I'm always trouble shooting and second guessing so any advice and as much info I can get to optimize is very appreciated. I probably should have just got with the Athlon in the first place but went with advise from buddy. If I knew now what I didn't then right?

Thanks again Guys, cheers

GA-K8VM800M (rev.1.x)
Sempron 3000+AIP2AX
2 x 1GB RAM
GeForce FX 5600 Ultra
Creative Sound Blaster Audigy 2
SATA HD

I think that covers it

Overclock with Easy tune 5 (anything over 4% she crash) but doesn't seem to make much difference. Thermal paste correct (as per Leo Laporte's instructions). First attempt caused high heat (60 Celsius crash) so I thought that was the problem. After re-researching and making sure correct no more high heat (runs around 36Celsius) but problem persists.


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December 7, 2013 at 16:16:40
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"Overclock with Easy tune 5 (anything over 4% she crash) but doesn't seem to make much difference"

That's because you're overclocking with Easy Tune. The "correct" way to overclock is thru the BIOS, that way you have control over all the individual settings. You'd need to reduce the RAM setting to 166MHz (DDR333), reduce the HTT multiplier to 3x, lock the AGP clock at 67MHz, disable all Spread Spectrum settings, then begin raising the CPU reference clock 5MHz at a time, rebooting & testing after each increase. If/when the system becomes unstable, either bump up the CPU voltage a bit or lower the ref clock to the last stable setting. The voltage increase varies from CPU to CPU so it's a 'trial & error' thing.

Your Sempron 3000+ is a Paris core:

http://www.cpu-world.com/CPUs/K8/AM...

The A64 3400+ that you have is a NewCastle core:

http://www.cpu-world.com/CPUs/K8/AM...

Both CPUs are early models based on 130nm SOI technology. A Venice core A64 (90nm) would be the CPU to get.

http://www.computing.net/answers/cp...


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#5
December 7, 2013 at 16:49:21
"hard time streamin movie trailers"
flash videos are cpu intensive and max out older cpu's. what browser are you using?

larry


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