OC went wrong, boot to black screen ..etc

October 26, 2020 at 12:58:45
Specs: Windows 10, ryzen 5 3600 4.2ghz
Hello thank you for reading this,

So here is what happend, I am a reg gamer and recently about 4 months ago built my computer
Gigabyte Ds3h b 450
PS - ThermalTake TR2 600Watt
rtx geforce 1660
RAM - XPG 16GB SPECTRIX D41 DDR4 3000 MHz UDIMM Desktop Memory Kit (2 x 8GB, Tungsten Gray) & 2 v-Color Prism RGB 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR4 3000MHz

CPU - Ryzen 5 3600

CPU Cooler - ABKONCORE CT407W CPU AIR Cooler
Since then I had ryzen master installed and had the button auto oc pushed where it was set to 1.3V and 4.2ghz I decided to try and go to 4.3ghz with the same volts the computer restarted and then right crashed when it would try and open ryzen master..

after a couple times trying to get to open ryzen master I couldnt get back into the program which ment i was stuck in the wrong ghz after the 3rd time the computer noticed something was wrong and put me into the bios however the rev v.1 doesnt have anything to change the core voltage litterally.. like why wouldnt they put that on there first version first.

so i tried to look for vcore and the freq i did put the freq back to 3.60ghz (base) however when i would reset the bios and save to restart the computer is now just go into a black screen.. shuts off the keyboard and mouse

so i did my digging and i tryed to restart many times unplug power turn of switch nothing..

which brought me to the cmos battery took out the battery or 5 mins put it back in then the computer would restart and take me to the windows screen of what do you wanna do restart to windows - reset etc

nothing worked it kept going into the black screen

so the only button that does work on that menu is the bios settings button to go to that, i went back and then it popped up make sure the cmos boot priorites where set, i looked and everything was the same boot to windows mangaer through my adata ssd when i save it and reset it nothing happens once again black screen with keyboard off and mouse off?

I dont think i burn my cpu because the repair settings appears and then asks you what do you wanna do?

Im stuck..?

my next option was to do a full cmos with the shortage move.. other then that just buy a new cpu and mobo which is crazy for something that should have covered the oc due to my cpu air cooler should of been able to handle it.

thanks again

also there are no beeps or sounds it only boots normal thur gigabyte screen on bottom when only i do the battery out for 5 mins it happens once and then i gotta restart the process over.


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#1
October 26, 2020 at 14:41:02
To reset the BIOS, you do not have to remove the battery for 5 minutes. All you have to do is unplug the power cord then short out the Clear_CMOS pins on the motherboard. That's what they're there for. The BIOS will reset immediately. Check your manual.

"CLR_CMOS (Clear CMOS Jumper)
Use this jumper to clear the BIOS configuration and reset the CMOS values to factory defaults. To clear the CMOS values, use a metal object like a screwdriver to touch the two pins for a few seconds.
• Always turn off your computer and unplug the power cord from the power outlet before clearing the CMOS values.
• After system restart, go to BIOS Setup to load factory defaults (select Load Optimized Defaults) or manually configure the BIOS settings (refer to Chapter 2, "BIOS Setup," for BIOS configurations)."

This article explains why manually overclocking is not the way to go.
https://www.tomshardware.com/review...


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#2
October 26, 2020 at 18:27:25
Hi riider, thanks for the help however this did not do nothing. I was told to get to the bios and look for default values, however I cant even get the pc to go to windows repair settings it just turns on and stays black on the screen I do got power on my keyboard but no mouse light. I use to be able to turn on the power button by holding it now it doesn't even work.

Could be the i/o and cpu now?


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#3
October 26, 2020 at 18:34:02
See if you can get this boot disk to work.

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#4
October 26, 2020 at 19:14:35
Hi John
I will check this out, I did get a response back from my local computer shop this is what he said I will copy and paste,

Go into BIOS and reset it to default values. If this brings everything back up, good. If it doesn't, download the latest BIOS update for your motherboard on to a flash drive. Run the update from the flash drive AFTER removing the clock battery and holding the PC start button for 20 seconds. That should get you back in business. AMD processors are not very stable, in my opinion, when it comes to overclocking. Hope this helps.

Problem is I cant even get back into bios its like the I/o something is wrong..? the clear cmos is not even working anymore.. I never seen that happen I did send a ticket to gigabyte and see what they say. Chances are I think the I/o and cpu might be shot..? Or maybe just the i/o..?

i will check out that lazesoft and try to see if that works I also was told like up above to try and run the update after removing the clock battery pc start button but nothing loaded.

I will follow up tomorrow. Thank you all!


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#5
October 27, 2020 at 05:14:04
You risk damage by constantly removing/replacing the CMOS battery, that's why the Clear-CMOS pins are provided. Leave the battery alone & use the pins. Also, it's extremely important to unplug the power cord first. As long as there's power to the PSU, there is power going to the motherboard, even when the system is shutdown. The BIOS might not reset if the power cord is still connected, plus you can damage the board. Not hearing any beeps is not a good sign. I presume you were hearing the initial beep at startup prior to over-overclocking? The lack of beeps indicates a hardware problem. Remove all the RAM & then try booting the system, it should beep like crazy due to no RAM being detected. If it doesn't, you have a major malfunction.

"the bios however the rev v.1 doesnt have anything to change the core voltage"

Incorrect. The CPU voltage setting is under M.I.T. > Advanced Voltage Settings.

Try temporarily disconnecting the SSD & then see if the system will boot OK. Obviously you won't get into Windows but the Gigabyte logo should come up & you should also be able to get into the BIOS. Load the defaults, reboot, then enter the settings again to correct the date/time & any other settings that need adjusting. Save the settings & exit, then shutdown & reconnect the SSD.

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#6
October 28, 2020 at 13:14:24
I just wanted to say thank you for all the help and responses, I took it to my computer guy its either the cpu or motherboard. I believe I got it stuck in a setting on the bios which i needed find the bios however by removing the battery 2 times I must of ruined the motherboard the cpu does heat up however he cant really test each one separately so im just gonna buy a new motherboard and ryzen cpu.

Lesson learned not to watch the youtube videos that says its okay to take out battery while the plug is out.

Riider, the PC guy took out all the ram checked it and even took out the gpu and it still would not boot to bios I do hear a beep once you hit the button to turn on, however it doesn't turn off with the power button anymore either so you have to manual shut it off with the switch in the back. Im just gonna rule it out that i messed it up by oc it by 1 extra ghz and when i tried to turn down the freq. in bios thats where i couldn't find the settings and freaked out found out about resetting the bios with battery did that 2 times and then black screen and no power to mouse and keyboard (my fault). So im just gonna get a newer Mother board, im afraid if i do get a new io and try to put in the cpu it might blow the new io again? So im gonna just get both new.


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#7
October 31, 2020 at 10:37:29
".... im just gonna get a newer Mother board, im afraid if i do get a new io and try to put in the cpu it might blow the new io again?"

What is this IO or I/O you keep referring to? I think you're confused about what it means.
IO = Input/Output.

"the PC guy took out all the ram checked it and even took out the gpu and it still would not boot to bios I do hear a beep once you hit the button to turn on, however it doesn't turn off with the power button anymore either so you have to manual shut it off with the switch in the back"

A board won't boot to the BIOS without RAM & it won't display anything without a GPU, but it will beep like mad if neither of them are installed & you attempt to boot. Your CPU doesn't have integrated graphics & neither does the motherboard so if you connect the monitor cable directly to the board's graphics port, nothing will appear on the monitor screen except for maybe "no signal". And to turn the system off by using the power button, you have to press it & hold it in until it shuts down. You may have to hold the button in for 10 seconds or more.

You're getting bad advice & you're wasting your money needlessly. I'm willing to bet both the CPU & board are good. Reassemble with minimal hardware & test it. The only things that should be used are the PSU, motherboard, CPU, CPU cooler, ONE stick of RAM, graphics card, keyboard, & monitor. Do NOT connect a SSD, HDD, optical drive, or anything else.

Make sure the 24-pin ATX main plug is securely connected along with the 8-pin ATX12V plug. You weren't clear on your graphics card but it requires either a 6-pin or 8-pin plug connected to it or it won't work. The PCIe slot does not supply enough power. Also, make sure the card is securely in place & in the upper PCIEx16 slot, not the lower PCIEx4 slot. When installing the CPU cooler, be sure to apply the thermal paste properly. NEVER reuse a thermal pad or paste. Anytime a cooler is removed, the paste has to be completely removed & fresh paste applied. The proper paste application for the AMD Ryzen is the vertical line method. Do not spread it, do not make an X with the paste, just a thin vertical line is all that's needed. It will spread out on its own when the cooler is installed & locked down. If you use too much or apply it incorrectly, it can prevent a system from booting. This pic is a bit outdated but it shows 3 different paste application methods, use the one on the upper/right: https://store.donanimhaber.com/95/0...

After you have everything assembled & before plugging in the power cord, use the Clear_CMOS pins to make sure the BIOS is reset to its defaults, After doing that, try booting & see if you get a display & can access the BIOS menu.

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#8
October 31, 2020 at 21:13:24
Thanks for the reply Riider,

I appreciate the advice, I will do a video and upload to my youtube channel. I will try everything you just said to do above. It was booting and going to bios, but once the black screen came on it would stop the boot process and it wouldn't go to bios, the only way i was able to get it to go to bios was when i took out the battery then put it back in. Now my jumper I used a paper clip with the power plug out didn't seem to be working. It was only able to get to bios with the battery out 2 times then it just stopped working. (Which makes you think I did something to the motherboard). I will also record the powering on sound .. it sounds like a beep to me but maybe im wrong.

My computer guy I went to his website is https://www.robertsonspcservice.com/
he seemed legit and older gentleman

Anyway thanks again, I will follow up soon!


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#9
November 1, 2020 at 06:18:01
So what is this thing you keep calling I/O?

The fact that you're able to boot to the BIOS "sometimes" means at the very least, the CPU is still good; the board is probably still good too. The next time you're able to get into the BIOS, find the Hardware Monitoring menu. Watch the CPU temp & see what happens. The CPU will be under almost zero load so it should hold steady in the high 30s, low 40s Celsius. If it's higher than that or the temp creeps upwards while you're watching, the problem is with the CPU cooler. Either the thermal paste was applied incorrectly or the cooler got disturbed. Do you remember bumping it while you were working inside the case? Was the cooler ever removed & then reinstalled? Why didn't you use the AMD Wraith Spire cooler that came with the CPU just to see if it was OK, or did you get a bare CPU without cooler? I know a lot of youtubers & redditers say stock coolers suck but AMD certainly wouldn't supply an inadequate cooler. And what made you choose the ABKONCORE CT407W out of all the possibilities?
https://www.relaxedtech.com/reviews...

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