Solved I want to overclock my Intel Core 2 Duo running at 1.86Ghz

June 8, 2012 at 23:32:52
Specs: Windows 7, 4GB
Alright this is my system specs

Operating System :Windows 7 Ultimate 64 bit
RAM: 4GB
CPU: Intel Core 2 Duo running at 1.86 Ghz
Model: Gateway GM5480E
CPU Cooler:Stock Heat Sink & Fan, but Arctic Silver 5 applied when installing new CPU

Not sure about anything else, I'll try and look it up if you need more info. Also, I'm using ClockGen to overclock, so what I'm looking for is the PLL so I can plug it into the program and overclock


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June 10, 2012 at 05:05:19
If you plan on gaming then you should go with a graphics card around the GTX 450/550 range rather than the 430. Look at this one:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...

CPU world does not recognize the E6430 (unless you mis-typed it):
http://www.cpu-world.com/cgi-bin/Id...

Note (just looked) that (according to riider's link) your PCIe x16 supports 1a standard rather than the 2.0 standard so that will limit some of the video card's effectiveness, but the '550 should still be much better than the '430 card is.

You have to be a little bit crazy to keep you from going insane.



#1
June 9, 2012 at 05:20:29
Are you sure about that model number? The Gateway specs list a Pentium D & max of 2GB RAM:

http://support.gateway.com/s/PC/R/2...

Software overclocking is generally unsatisfactory because you do not have control over all the necessary settings. You'll be able to jack the CPU frequency somewhat, but the results will be limited because you'll have no control over the CPU multiplier, RAM speed, CPU:DRAM ratio, PCIe bus, voltages, etc.

Are you still using the crappy Intel GMA950 graphics? If you are, I suggest you invest in a PCIe video card rather than attempting a software overclock. And applying Arctic Silver was unnecessary, plus if you didn't do it correctly (using the vertical line method), you may have negatively impacted the cooling ability of the stock heatsink/fan.

http://www.arcticsilver.com/pdf/app...


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#2
June 9, 2012 at 09:21:34
Overclocking an OEM computer is almost always a bad idea. Overclocking results in extra stresses on system components which these computers are poorly equipped to handle. Knowing this, the manufacturers usually lock the BIOS to prevent overclocking. This protects you from failures and them from the resulting warranty claims.

Overclocking is best confined to home-built systems where you can control the quality and specifications of the components used.


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#3
June 9, 2012 at 11:21:30
I'm positive about the model number. I've done many upgrades to it. I was also told last night (even though I already knew) that 4GB is possible with Windows 7. Alright then, if it's impossible to overclock, even with software, then I guess I'll have to buy the next highest CPU according to Intel's website that is fully compatible with my motherboard.


Also, I have a Sparkle GeForce GT 430 4GB video card in there. Any possible tweaks for that maybe?


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#4
June 9, 2012 at 17:56:15
4GB Ram is fully compatible with 64-bit windows 7, 32-bit will only recognize 3.25GB.
If you want to game on your system im sure you can with no problems, i have a lower spec pc that can run the mass effect 3 demo on mostly high settings at around 20 to 30FPS, my system has 1GB ram, inno 3d GT 430 1 gb and a AMD sempron 3500+ 2.00 GHz.

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#5
June 9, 2012 at 20:22:05
"I'm positive about the model number"

Can you explain the specs in the link I posted then? According to Gateway, it only supports 2GB, but according to Crucial, it supports up to 4GB:

http://www.crucial.com/upgrade/Gate...

Is this your motherboard then?

http://support.gateway.com/s/MOTHER...

"I guess I'll have to buy the next highest CPU according to Intel's website that is fully compatible with my motherboard"

Did you replace the Pentium D with the Core 2 Duo? What is it that you're trying to gain? If it's gaming performance, you need a better video card, not a new CPU.

"Sparkle GeForce GT 430 4GB"

Although you can play some games with the GT 430, it's considered to be an HTPC card. And there's absolutely no need for 4GB memory on an HTPC card. I'm sure there's little or no performance gain over a standard GT 430 w/1GB but I bet it cost considerably more.

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews...


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#6
June 9, 2012 at 22:23:15
This is my motherboard

Intel D945GCL according to what I've been researching

Crucial is correct, it supports up to 4GB with Windows 7 64-bit which is what I have.

The upgrades I have done are fully compatible with my system, and I'm experiencing no problems whatsoever. The only thing I am slightly upset about is my CPU, I could have gotten a slightly more powerful one I have the Intel Core 2 Duo 6300 right now, but I could have put the 6430 in, which has a 4MB cache. I am positive my system can handle this because I used intel's compatibility tool against my motherboard and that's what it told me. If it's not as accurate as I think it is? Well my motherboard would be fried right now then.


Alright then, I will close this topic, as you all are pretty much saying nothing can be overclocked. I just ordered the E6430 brand new from ebay for less than $60, which in my opinion is cheap, comparing it to different store prices which averaged from 95 to 110 dollars.


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#7
June 10, 2012 at 05:05:19
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If you plan on gaming then you should go with a graphics card around the GTX 450/550 range rather than the 430. Look at this one:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...

CPU world does not recognize the E6430 (unless you mis-typed it):
http://www.cpu-world.com/cgi-bin/Id...

Note (just looked) that (according to riider's link) your PCIe x16 supports 1a standard rather than the 2.0 standard so that will limit some of the video card's effectiveness, but the '550 should still be much better than the '430 card is.

You have to be a little bit crazy to keep you from going insane.


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#8
June 10, 2012 at 06:16:40
"This is my motherboard
Intel D945GCL according to what I've been researching"

Yes & no. It's the Gateway version of the D945GCL which is why it can't be overclocked. The CPUs listed at the Intel site may or may not be supported by the Gateway BIOS. As far as I can tell, there is no E6430. It's not listed at the Intel site, it's not on the CPU support list, & it can't be found using google. Did you mean E6420?

http://processormatch.intel.com/Com...

http://ark.intel.com/products/29755...

You never stated what you primarily use your system for - is it a general purpose system, HTPC, or gamer? If you're trying to make a gamer out of it, it's the graphics card that's holding you back, not the CPU. That $60 would have been better spent on a graphics upgrade. If you would have held onto that $60, sold the GT 430 for say, $40, you could have gotten a decent gaming card with GDDR5 RAM for about $75-100. Of course, a decent gaming card requires a decent power supply. Have you ever upgraded the PSU or do you still have the weak 250W unit?


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#9
June 10, 2012 at 07:35:32
http://support.gateway.com/s/PC/R/2...

It uses a customised Intel Motherboard, therefore you are at the mercy of Gateway as to whether or not it will support various CPU's.

Is it really worth spending money on this crippled BIOS machine, the money would be better spent on building a decent Tower !

Googling is quicker than waiting for an answer....


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#10
June 10, 2012 at 10:16:57
I realize that to you guys, it is foolish to upgrade this "weak" computer, but I am on a limited budget. I can't afford a "decent" computer, as I'd have to save up for months, and by the time I do that, something better and new comes out. So I have to upgrade this one to hell as much as I can. I'm not looking for the best graphics out there, the one I'm using (the 430) runs most games on Medium to high settings, believe me or not. I have no stuttering problems, everything is smooth. So you see, to me this is worth the expense.

@riider: Yes I meant the E6420, sorry. As to overclocking, I was already aware this cannot be done, as that's what you said in the very first post.

Yes I'm still using the "crappy" 250 w PSU only it's a 300 watt according to the front of my computer on the sticker. I planned on replacing it with at least a 700 watt when I can afford it, which is not right now.

As for that graphics card that was posted? I'll look into it, but for now, the one I have is decent enough. Thanks for all the suggestions, I know you all meant well but with my limited budget, things are hard to come by.

Also, I looked at the GTX series of video cards and they ALL require a power cable, which as far as I'm aware, this motherboard has no slot to plug into


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#11
June 10, 2012 at 14:16:12
Building on a budget is fine, even if your building base is an OEM like you have. The trick is to spend your money wisely. Your current CPU is fine. Sure, there are better ones out there, but the CPU is not your system's weakest point. I don't know what you paid for the GT 430, but I'm sure it was too much. 4GB memory on a low end card is a scam & unfortunately, you fell for it. I have no doubt you could have gotten a much better card with GDDR5 for about the same price. As for the power supply, 700W would be overkill. The Corsair 430W will handle just about anything you throw at it. It goes on sale regularly at newegg for about $20 after rebate. Right now it's selling for $35:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...


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#12
June 10, 2012 at 18:45:33
Okay cool. Can any of you locate me a decent card that does not need a power cable? All the ones I've looked at with GDDR5 all require it.

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#13
June 10, 2012 at 20:50:46
Just so you know, the power connection for the video card comes from the power supply, not the motherboard. And the best card you can get that doesn't require the plug-in is the Radeon HD 7750. Notice that it has GDDR5 memory, requires less power than your GT 430, & has 2-3 times the performance.

http://www.hwcompare.com/11762/gefo...


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