Solved Best monitor for Console Gaming???

June 28, 2014 at 21:21:27
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I need a good monitor for my xbox 360. I mainly play Call of Duty, and I play it very competitively.

I need a monitor under 200 USD, but preferably no more than 170.

I would like an IPS with good response time. I know I should just go with a TN panel, but unless they have other advantages besides speed, I don't see why I should get one.

Please give me monitors with good reviews, and ones that are made by companies that are very trustworthy and consistent with dead pixels.

Thanks to all that help.

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#1
June 28, 2014 at 23:00:52
http://www.displaylag.com/display-d...

That's pretty much all you need.

Generally, screens less than 27" will have better response times.

"...other advantages besides speed..."

This is EXACTLY the reason why you want to get a TN LED. Response time is very important for gaming, arguably more important than better colors or viewing angles (as found in IPS LED).

As for overall build quality, I just suggest looking for reviews online, or in the comments section for the monitor on Amazon or something.

Really, I suggest you save up money to buy a Next-Gen console, or better yet join the PC Master Race...but it's your money.

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#2
June 29, 2014 at 08:23:13
I meant to say I am looking for 24 or 23 inches. And on the link you gave me, everything is 10ms or above. Why is that?

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#3
June 29, 2014 at 12:17:54
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That is a good question, I actually have no idea. I know that they do make <1ms monitors:

http://www.amazon.com/BenQ-Gaming-M...

From what I've found, most of them tend to be by Benq.

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#4
June 29, 2014 at 15:15:40
Yes. I really have been looking at this monitor for the longest time now. But like most BenQ monitors, it is a TN. My main problem with it being a TN is not the color production, because if it was really bad, it wouldn't be so popular. My main problem is the viewing angles. I ma hardly ever sitting straight up. I'm either to leaning to the left, or to the right. So I feel like it would get annoying rather quickly.

Also what kind of monitor are you using? And what for?

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#5
June 29, 2014 at 15:43:33
Actually, that's the one I have, that's why I linked it to you. Personally, I haven't had a problem with the viewing angles, but then again I have it on my desk, so I'm looking pretty much straight at it.

Another factor to consider is that if you do get an IPS LED, chances are it'll be more expensive, maybe out of your budget...

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#6
June 29, 2014 at 16:03:30
Yeah. I have thought about that. The IPS monitors tend to run for more money than the TN monitors. What about the GL2460HM? That thing is amazingly cheap, especially knowing that it is a BenQ.

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#7
June 30, 2014 at 21:43:46
Yeah, I think sacrificing 1 ms of response time is worth saving 20 bucks.

But...

I found this, still has great latency (trust me, you won't notice 5 ms) plus it's a VA LED, meaning it is basically in between TN and IPS in latency and colors/angles.

It's only $100, which is surprising because VA is the newest and usually most expensive. I guess because it's only 21.5", but if you can live with that, it's a great deal in my opinion.

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#8
June 30, 2014 at 21:45:27
I believe your link is broken. It redirects me to the top of my thread...

Also as far as a TN goes, I wouldn't mind the bad viewing angles, if I had another decent display as something to just have fun with. But whatever I do end up getting is going to be used for all of my xbox games. Do you use your RL just for competitive use, or do you also use it to just have fun and sit back and play? I do from time to time switch up what I do, and take a break from competition, and play racing games or other things, and I want to make sure this will be ok. I will have it at a desk, but at the same time I have trouble sitting still. I fidget around a lot.

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#9
June 30, 2014 at 21:47:46
Just to follow up, it doesn't say on Amazon, but it's 1080p @ 60 Hz. It only has DVI connectors (although one comment said VGA only, so...?) but you could pretty easily get a HDMI to DVI converter.

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#10
June 30, 2014 at 21:58:32
Sorry bout the link, the website does that when the link is 'too long'

Try this:

http://tinyurl.com/BenQMonitorLink

Personally, I use my monitor for basically everything. It's hooked up to my PC, which I use for all kinds of gaming, as well as watching movies, or just checking emails.

If it's at a desk in front of you, you'll have no issue with viewing angles on any monitor really.

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#11
June 30, 2014 at 22:12:18
Looks like a great monitor, especially for the price. If it really is as good as it says, and doesn't have very many flaws, its pretty impressive. However, I am playing on my 360. There are no HDMI ports on this.

So what I was thinking, was maybe just settling with the GL2460HM. From what I can tell, it is a cheaper version of what you have, so that will save me some money since it is only 150 dollars. As long as moving around in my seat won't throw the colors off the deep end, I should be good.

If there is anything about the GL that is absolutely makes it a no-go compared to the RL, than let me know. But they just seem very similar.

Edit: This monitor only has a 1000:1 ratio. What does this mean, in simpler terms, and how much of a disadvantage is this compared to your monitor?

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#12
June 30, 2014 at 22:20:31
Contrast ratios are pretty much total lies:

http://www.cnet.com/news/contrast-r...

That's just the difference between the white and black on the monitor. So higher ratios means cleaner whites and deeper blacks.

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#13
July 1, 2014 at 07:09:52
So what do I consider when looking at the 2 monitors. Are they both the same in contrast ratio, or do I just not need to worry about it?

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#14
July 1, 2014 at 09:16:06
Don't worry about it, there isn't an easy way to tell. Your best bet would be to look at reviews rather than manufacturer's specs.

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#15
July 1, 2014 at 11:57:47
Thanks. The more I think about it, the more I want to get the RL.

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#16
July 1, 2014 at 21:05:54
I was doing some research of my own, and although response time may be very important, it seems as if it almost hides input lag in the shadows. You always hear "This has good response time" or "This has bad response time." You never hear about input lag, though.

So as I was going through some articles, people were saying they had some 8ms IPS panels that were way faster than 2ms TN panels.

From my understanding, a 2ms panel could have anywhere from 10-60ms and beyond input lag. The more I thought about it the more it made sense. So I thought about your link and how I asked about why nothing was under 10ms and it is because it shows lag, not response time.

Am I wrong here? Or am I skipping over something? How does the RL feel for you when it comes to lag?


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#17
July 2, 2014 at 10:44:22
No, you are *technically* correct, Input Lag and Response Time are two different aspects of a monitor.

Still, generally speaking monitors that have good Response Times will also have low Input Lag. It's only until you get into off-brand monitors that you will see lag getting above 50 ms.

Pretty much any major brand will have an Input Lag of 10 -20 ms (Asus, BenQ, LG, etc).

This is becuase Input Lag is basically made up of two things:

The physical Response Time of the monitor, and

The time it takes for the image sent from the computer (or Xbox) to be processed, and then the new signal to be sent to the pixels.

Because most monitors use relatively the same quality of processors, the latter will usually be the same (Within a few ms). That's why monitors that have more inputs, have more color correction, or those that upscale, downscale, or deinterlace the image have worse lag, as it puts more strain on the processor.

That's also why off-brand's have more lag, because they use cheaper quality processors.

It is basically just a marketing scheme, as 2 ms sounds better than 10 ms, and Response sounds better than Lag.

That's why the Input Lag database is so useful, you should really check it out.

Another inconsistency to be aware of is that some manufacturers will use black to white (BTW) response time, where others will use grey to grey (GTG) response time. Generally, GTG is much faster, so it is most common.

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#18
July 2, 2014 at 12:51:15
Yeah I read up on the black to white on the Input Lag link. Do you know what the black to white is on the RL.

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#19
July 2, 2014 at 13:23:03
No, I don't, sorry.

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#20
July 2, 2014 at 16:48:39
Don't worry about it.

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#21
July 2, 2014 at 20:41:37
Do you by any chance know what the "Black, Red" edition is?

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/searchp...


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#22
July 2, 2014 at 22:50:47
Maybe it's just the color? If you look at the side view pics, you can see that part of the stand is red, and the rest is black, so...

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#23
July 4, 2014 at 22:22:15
Thanks NT56 for all your help. It truly helped me a lot, and made me more aware of all the things to take in and research when getting a monitor. I will be getting the RL2455HM. Thanks again.

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#24
July 6, 2014 at 10:50:12
Just glad to help!

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