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Name: moonnightingale
Date: September 7, 2007 at 10:02:12 Pacific
Subject: Should i use my Laptop With Main AC
OS: XP
CPU/Ram: 1.6/512
Model/Manufacturer: HP
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I have purchased new HP 530 Duo Core Laptop. Kindly tell me the best way to use laptop. Should i use it on battery and when battery drains i recharge it and use it again OR WHENEVER I HAVE TO USE LAPTOP I PLUG MAIN POWER SUPPLY ON. Some one told me it is not good to use Laptops on Main supplies. Do help me


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Response Number 1
Name: wanderer
Date: September 7, 2007 at 10:05:03 Pacific
Subject: Should i use my Laptop With Main AC
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Only time mine is unplugged is when I am portable.
Always have a surge suppressor between the AC and your laptop as you should with any electronic device [like that expensive flat panel TV] you care about.
Your "someone" misinformed you.

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Response Number 2
Name: XpUser4Real
Date: September 7, 2007 at 10:05:33 Pacific
Subject: Should i use my Laptop With Main AC
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If you want to use AC, I would suggest removing your battery, that should save the battery life.
Charge it up when you can't use AC and run it down low (at least the 1st time you use it)....although I'm pretty sure most of the batteries today have no memory so you can recharge it at any time, any level.

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Response Number 3
Name: wanderer
Date: September 7, 2007 at 10:15:58 Pacific
Subject: Should i use my Laptop With Main AC
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Some laptops can't run on AC alone and must have the battery installed. It is never a good idea to advise those at user levels to open things up or remove components

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Response Number 4
Name: XpUser4Real
Date: September 7, 2007 at 10:21:14 Pacific
Subject: Should i use my Laptop With Main AC
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wanderer, I respect what you are saying, but I have never worked on a laptop that couldn't run with the battery removed while on AC.

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Response Number 5
Name: XpUser4Real
Date: September 7, 2007 at 10:30:36 Pacific
Subject: Should i use my Laptop With Main AC
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That is from Toshiba on conditioning the battery:
Keep Your Battery Fit! - Yes, you can actually condition your battery. When you buy your laptop, charge the battery to its full capacity, then discharge it completely. Next, fully charge it again. This way your battery actually learns how much electrical charge it can hold. Always make sure when you charge your battery that it reaches 100 percent

Here are some more hints:
Keeping your laptop running for longer without recharging...
The beauty of notebook PCs is the portability, making them an essential device with an obivous advantage of mobility over desktop computers. Of course, after several hours, you will need to recharge your laptop's battery, plugging an AC charger from the mains into your laptop, which means, for a short period of time, it's fixed to one place, making it effectively a desktop PC for a short while. Annoying, but with the incredibly increased run times from new laptop computers on the market, the need for recharging is less frequent, as battery run-times have significantly increased over the past few years. It's not uncommon to have a laptop that can run for a working day without recharge, making it ideal for those on the move.

Of course, if you're demanding a lot of performance from your machine, the battery will drain faster than normal. Your system might be running unnecessary programs right now, which creates a burden on the battery run time. We have a few tips for you to get the absolute potential from your laptop and its battery. These tips apply to old as well as new laptop computers, for the now ubiquitious Lithium Ion (Li-Ion) batteries, the Nickel Metal Hydride (Ni-MH) batteries and the virtually obsolete Nickel Cadmium (Ni-Cd) batteries.


Essential treatment of a new battery

Whether you have a new battery, or a totally brand new laptop system, the most important thing to do before normal usage is to fully charge the laptop battery to 100%, then deliberately discharge it completely. Then, charge it up again, and use your laptop normally. Why do this? Well, this method allows your battery to 'learn' how much electrical charge it can hold. Without this important treatment, you won't be getting the potential out of your battery's life span. Also, ensure that when you charge your battery, it reaches 100 percent.

Turn down your screen brightness!

The LCD display is quite a big drain on your battery power. Do you really need the brightness on the highest setting? Adjust your display so that the screen is not fully lit, but comfortable enough for your viewing. This will help increase your battery run time.

Use power wisely

Unused devices are also a drain on your system's power. Remove USB devices and other connected units when they're not needed. Try to only use your CD/DVD drive when necessary. If you need to repeatedly access files/music from a disc, it helps to copy the material to your hard disk - the spinning of a CD/DVD to read files is a huge factor in battery drainage, whereas hard disk access is a significantly lighter burden. If you're not using your laptop, put it into sleep mode, which keeps enough power running to maintain minimal function, so you can resume full power when you're ready to return to your work or play. Also, close down programs you're not using. If you don't have a net connection, you won't be needing a web browser or an Instant Messenger running, for example.

Streamline your system's hard drive

If you've been using your computer quite a lot, it helps to defragment your hard drive. This cuts out a lot of work your computer must do when accessing files. You can do this in Windows XP by clicking on the START button, All Programs, Accessories, System Tools and selecting Disk Defragmenter. It's simple to use, and should be performed regularly to get the most out of your system. Doing this will ease stain on your hard drive, and thus will make the battery run time last longer.

Remove start-up items

When you switch on and run Windows, start-up items load into memory, adding to the load on your CPU. It's possible that you may never use any of these programs in your session, but with them hanging around ready to be used, your battery will be drained further. You can review and remove selected programs from the start-up process by clicking the START button, selecting RUN... and type MSCONFIG into the prompt.

The heat is on...

High temperatures are not good for laptop batteries. They work at their best in cold conditions, although they are optimised for great usage at room temperature, so you don't have to worry about taking your laptop into an igloo to have it running! Where possible, keep your laptop battery away from excessive heat and/or hot weather - which is also vital for the safety of batteries. Having your battery relatively cool will increase its total lifespan. It can help to remove the battery and utilise AC power from the mains when possible, to keep the battery lifespan safe.

Power up frequently

Lithium Ion (Li-Ion) batteries should be charged as soon as possible, and often. (The exception to this rule if if you're not using them for a longer time, in which case you should bring them to a charged level of 40%.) Get your battery charged up before it hits 0%, this will prolong the battery lifespan and avoid major problems.

Storing spare or rarely-used batteries

We're not kidding, the best place for a rarely used Lithium Ion (Li-Ion) laptop battery is in your refridgerator - the benefits for the battery lifespan are at the best! At 0°C, the battery loses less charge than at higher or lower temperatures. Before doing this, we recommend the charge to drop to 40%. We also highly recommend that when taking a battery out of such a cold condition, that you let it remain in room temperature for at least 24 hours before using it in any laptop.


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Response Number 6
Name: XpUser4Real
Date: September 7, 2007 at 10:36:50 Pacific
Subject: Should i use my Laptop With Main AC
Reply: (edit)

Check out the above paragraph called "The heat is on..."
It tells about removing the battery and using AC to prolong the lifespan of the battery.

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Response Number 7
Name: XpUser
Date: September 7, 2007 at 15:05:27 Pacific
Subject: Should i use my Laptop With Main AC
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I second wanderer. My frequent contacts with HP, Sony & Toshiba Technical Support all referred me to this article. Quoted under paragraph 4.5 General Battery Care:

A battery that is not used for a long time will slowly discharge itself. Even with the best of care, a battery needs to be replaced after 500 to 1000 recharges. But still it is not recommended to run a laptop without the battery while on ac power the battery often serves as a big capacitor to protect against voltage peaks from your ac outlet..

Hence, the above is what wanderer meant when he said Always have a surge suppressor between the AC and your laptop as you should with any electronic device.

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Response Number 8
Name: XpUser
Date: September 7, 2007 at 15:52:30 Pacific
Subject: Should i use my Laptop With Main AC
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HP Tech Support also send me the following article that explains what you can do to extend notebook battery life. Nowhere in the article did it suggested taking the battery out when running the laptop on A/C power.

http://h71036.www7.hp.com/hho/cache...


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Response Number 9
Name: justcuz (by whitevalley)
Date: September 7, 2007 at 22:30:56 Pacific
Subject: Should i use my Laptop With Main AC
Reply: (edit)

Heeding HP's advice (as in the manual) is likely to be helpful. It will indicate the type of battery in use, and how to care for it.

Heeding Toshiba (no matter how many paragraphs) is less likely to be advisable.


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Response Number 10
Name: justcuz (by whitevalley)
Date: September 7, 2007 at 22:37:43 Pacific
Subject: Should i use my Laptop With Main AC
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Neglected to mention that my reply was occasioned by noticing the OP's specs as "suggested' by Computing.net:

Manufacturer/Model: HP


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Response Number 11
Name: XpUser
Date: September 8, 2007 at 03:52:55 Pacific
Subject: Should i use my Laptop With Main AC
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Heeding Toshiba (no matter how many paragraphs) is less likely to be advisable

Agreed unless you read the official Toshiba FAQ available HERE.

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Response Number 12
Name: moonnightingale
Date: September 8, 2007 at 05:57:47 Pacific
Subject: Should i use my Laptop With Main AC
Reply: (edit)

when i wrote this in question "WHENEVER I HAVE TO USE LAPTOP I PLUG MAIN POWER SUPPLY ON." i never meant that i will remove my battery physicaly. i just want to ask is it good practice to use the Laptop with battery installed and plugging it in AC supply and using for hours.


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Response Number 13
Name: XpUser
Date: September 8, 2007 at 06:53:37 Pacific
Subject: Should i use my Laptop With Main AC
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We all know you never asked about removing the battery - someone just suggested it for some reason.

The HP article link I posted for you in Post 8 above is all that HP has to say. I couldn't find any link on the net that will directly answer your fundamental question with absolute certainity or authority.

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