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Avoiding XP like the plague for years, mostly because of crap like this, I decided to go back to a W2K Pro/XP Pro dual boot. All because I can't find a TV capture card that's 2000 compatible. But that's neither here nor there...
I have 3 partitions on a 250 gig IDE drive. C & D at 20 gigs each for W2K and XP, the rest for data. W2K reinstalled okay but, when trying to install XP, the setup says I have no disks installed. W2K reads it fine and the BIOS shows the drive is there as well. Searching on google, and on here, I see a lot of the same issue with SATA drives and needing a driver but I can't find anything pertaining to IDE drives in this case. Is there something I'm overlooking here?
How are you attempting to install WinXP? From a cold boot? You can install from within Win2000 by simply exploring the WinXP CD to setup or using auto start. You should then be able to set the path to the correct partition.
WinXP with no integrated service packs will not be able to access a partition larger than 127GB. You should have no problems installing the the 20GB though.
What tools did you use to partition the hard drive?
Why use Win2000 at all if your concern is a TV Capture card that won't work in 2000?
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"the setup says I have no disks installed"
This is the result of not providing the ide host bus driver.
ID your mainboard. Go to the manufacturers web site and download the drive driver for xp. hit f6 during install when you see it in the lower left corner and feed the xp install the driver it needs.
This is not an example of xp crap but of not keeping up with the times which you will find more difficult as that time goes by.
Example of Oxymoron:
Person who is pro life and anti sex education.
Education is key to prevention. Prevent conception you prevent abortion.Abstinence training clearly isn't working.
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Definitely appreciate the responses
I used to run this dual boot on an Asus P4P800 motherboard. This one is a P4P800-E Deluxe. Seems there are some hidden differences between the two. Just like I did on the old board, I used FDISK to create one 20 gig partition to install W2K, letting it format C to NTFS. Once running, I used Computer Management to create the other partitions using a full format - not quick format. XP setup from a cold boot would just detect the other partitions, I'd choose D and be done with it. I never thought to try setting up XP from within 2000 because I never had to. But, I did try it and it wound up ending with a blue screen that more or less said the same thing - no drives. That was after using the advanced options and specifying that I would choose the install drive.
I'm not sure exactly what I'm looking for as far as a driver... Tried to check the Asus site but the product pages are all going to a Site Closed for Maintenance page at the moment. Googled half a dozen phrases like p4p800-e deluxe xp setup driver and came up with a bunch of drivers, mostly for RAID setup, but nothing specific to setting up XP.
Other than the TV capture card, 2000 does everything I need it to. There are also little things that XP doesn't do that 2000 does that I'd like to keep. For instance, if I put a shortcut to a folder in another folder, some of my programs will allow me to save files on other files/drives by clicking on the shortcut. In XP, I have to manually navigate to the other folder. XP also never ran mulitple instances of media player 6.4 while W2K will. I don't call this not keeping up with the times - I call it if it ain't broke, don't fix it. Besides, really keeping up with the times would mean getting Vista - and THAT ain't gonna happen anytime soon!
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Something is wrong with the second partition.
I suggest you delete it and try again. I would also suggest creating a second primary partition instead of an extended partition. That way is you need to rework the first primary you can. I am not sure if you an do that from within Win2000 as I usually do it outside Windows.
I just thought of why this isn't working. Win2000 needs at least SP3 in order to support hard drives over 127GB. Look from within 2000 in Disk Management and see what remaining space there is. If it doesn't add up to around 232GB total then that may be the trouble. Even if you have at least SP3 you still may need to make a registry change. I can't recall the exact change but it is something like Enabled 48bit LBA. Search for that if you need it. I need to split right now or I would find it.
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Win2000 is running fine. One of the first things I do when reinstalling an operating system is to enable 48bit LBA (which is done in regedt32, by the way) I've tried deleting and recreating the partitions, too. First as extended, then as primary. I used to stick with FAT32 partitions and a 98/ME boot floppy just for stuff like this - I don't know how to manipulate partitions from outside Windoze when they're NTFS. I have to say - Windoze amazes me. I don't think I've ever had any 2 reinstalls go the same over the years.
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Go to My Computer> Manage> Storage> Disk Management. You can delete and create partitions from there.
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Should have read #5 better. Thought you stated IN Windows.
IMO the best method for partitioning a hard drive is to use the utility from the drive maker. That will produce the best results.
The format used on the partition is irrelevant.
You format with the OS in the case of Windows. Don't know much about Linux.
So to recap. You use the hard drive utility to partition the drive. Then you can either let Windows format or you may be able to let the utility do that. Really doesn't matter. I prefer to let the OS that will reside on that partition format it.
You didn't answer why you need 2000 at all. Basically XP is 2000 dumned down. Much easier to share files but 2000 is more robust in compartmentalizing users.
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This seems to be just another throw-the-hands-up-in-the-air issue. You're right - the method to partion a drive is irrelevant. The drive has been formatted and partioned every way imaginable and XP still won't take it. It's never made any sense to me when instructions tell you to do A, B, C and D - you do A, B, C & D - and it still doesn't work. A lot like the other issue I have hanging on here about the SATA controller driver.
I guess I also have to say that I've never understood why people question what someone wants to do what with their computer. I always figured software was designed to be used as the consumer sees fit. It's just personal preference. Until I ran into this capture card issue, W2K did everything I want it to. It's just a matter of convenience that I wanted to put a capture card on my desktop. Since XP won't install, it looks like my laptop will be handling that chore.
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I did not state the method of partitioning is irrelevant. I stated the format method is irrelevant.
Describe in detail the steps you are taking to create partitions and then format.
While in Win2000 go to Disk Management and post how the current partitions are described there.
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I suspect you may be creating a dynamic partition.
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I used Disk Management to make C and D as Primary partitions, the balance of the drive, E, is a logical drive.
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Yep - that is the current configuration of the drive - Screenshot was taken just for this thread, a little verification if you will...
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Not to be argumentative but how could you use Disk Management to create the C and D partitions without some version of Windows being installed?
Do you mean you created the partitions from the Win2000 CD when first starting?
At this point I suggest you delete the Extended partition and then the D partition and try again.
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Argue away LOL This makes no sense to me either.
Okay - from the top. I used FDISK and an 98/ME boot disk to create the first partition. Then I let the W2k install reformat the partition to NTFS. Once W2K is installed, I use Disk Management to create the other partitions as shown in my screenshot. As you'll see (or have seen), D isn't an extended partition - it's set as a Primary.
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So you misspoke when stating you created the C partition from inside Windows.
The Logical drive is inside an Extended partition which was created off the D primary partition. You can't delete the D primary until you delete the logical drive and the extended partition.
Using 3 different tools to create and format 3 partitions obviously has not worked here.
If you used an original version of Fdisk it can't properly handle drives larger than 64GB. That may be the source of your problems. To verify boot back to the floppy with fdisk on it and use #4 option to view the partitions and post back what is found.
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First, I'll thank you for staying with me on this. Thank you!
Yes, I mistakenly said I created the C drive in Windows. It was done with FISK. But D wasn't created within a logical drive. Once in Windows 2000, and using Disk Management, I first made a 20 gig partition within the unallocated part of the drive and set it as Primary. After that, I took the rest and simply it a logical drive.
As far as what version of FDISK I have, I don't know - but I do know I'd used it in the past to format 120 gig drives. Still, the most puzzling part in all of this is that I used to run a 2000/XP dual boot, partitioning the first physical drive, with 3 partitions and entirely with FDISK, and I never had this issue before. The install CDs are the same. The only thing that's really different here is the motherboard, but I can't see how that could be an issue. My first thought was that it could be a BIOS setting somewhere, but, if I can install 2000, wouldn't it stand to reason that the drive, and partitions, are being "read" okay? Maybe the question I need answered is what does an XP setup need that 2000 doesn't?
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You are still getting my statements wrong.
The gist of it is this. The logical drive is in an Extended partition. That is fact. Your own links show that too.
You can't delete the primary partition which is D until after you delete the logical drive and then the Extended partition. That is the way things work.
I suggest you redo these partitions and that is how you need to delete them before you can redo them.
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D wasn't created as a drive within an extended partition and I have deleted and reformatted it without deleting/removing E.
Picture hereWhen I first got 2000 running, the drive was 20 gigs for C and the rest unallocated. I create D as another 20 gig primary, not as a logical drive within an extended partion. The color code in the first picture link I put up shows it - dark blue for primary, light blue with a green border to indicate a logical drive within the extended partition, in my case, E.
Since this issue started, I've now formatted everything - including C, meaning reinstalling 2000 because I figured the XP setup files may have somehow gotten corrupted. I've tried every permutation of volume type I can think of, including logical within extended and the XP setup doesn't pick any of 'em up.
I'll say it again - I used to run this dual boot from FDISK formatted drives with FAT32 partitions. Considering that Windows 2000 and XP setups both have prompts for formatting to NTFS before they install, I'm really at a loss as to what XP needs to "see" my drives. Now I'm wondering if I shouldn't start all over, formatting to FAT32 to (hopefully) get 'em both installed, then use the Convert function from a command prompt. This is just frustrating as hell :- /
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