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Name: Ian Scholz
Date: February 9, 2002 at 05:06:46 Pacific
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I have a problem with a small network. My Computer is running Win XP Pro, the other two I have problems with run Win ME and 98SE. I have TCP/IP installed on all of them, they are in the same workgroup and the same IP-Range. But the computers have dificulties finding each other. Since PING works perfectly fine, I had them search for the other computers explicitly. That worked and the computers now find each other in their neighbourhood at once. I can also access each machine from all others. The explorer window will show up with the computer name, workgroup, comment - the usual. when I double click on the machine I want to remote access, it even shows me the shares. But then it gets messy. The shares won't open, the explorer will just freeze forever and I will have to do the three finger salute (CTRL ALT DEL). In the seldom case that the share opens, I even see the shared files, but then it freezes as soon as I try to select one. This only happens when the XP machine is involved, transfers between the ME&98SE one are alright. Note that upgrading is not possible, since the 98SE is rather old and the ME machine is used by m mother who "got used to ME" and will give me hell if I change anything ;-P.
I don't think it is a hardware problem, as I alread checked&replaced just about every part for testing...Hope someone can help me... Thanks fort your time in advance...



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Response Number 1
Name: Jimi_l
Date: February 9, 2002 at 05:11:02 Pacific
Reply:

Kill the XP firewall and try setting the NIC card on the XP machine to 10 instead of 100
Jimi_l


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Response Number 2
Name: Ian Scholz
Date: February 9, 2002 at 06:07:08 Pacific
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The firewall was never active, but I double checked...
The NIC is running in Automatic which I guess is best since I am working with 10/100 Adapters all on automatic in all machines and a 100 switch...
So your advice didn't solve it, but thanks anyway...anybody got different ideas?


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Response Number 3
Name: Jimi_l
Date: February 9, 2002 at 06:17:39 Pacific
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No,that's not allways the best(hence the sugestion). Set in on 10baseT or 10baseT full duplex and try it.
Jimi_l


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Response Number 4
Name: Ian Scholz
Date: February 9, 2002 at 08:07:43 Pacific
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I tried it, but the problem stayed the same...I guess the speed was not the cause.
Any other ideas? BTW...I tried it with another XP machine, a LAptop and that one has a similiar problem...


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Response Number 5
Name: Trev
Date: February 9, 2002 at 08:18:20 Pacific
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Set all the TCP/IP address manually and make sure that all other protocols are turned off on all machines. I am running XP as the intenet sharing with 2 others using Win98


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Response Number 6
Name: cateye
Date: February 9, 2002 at 08:56:43 Pacific
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Try to install a program like winroute or an tcp/ip config app. maybe it can bring you on new ideas.
Are you shure that you installed microsoft client network.


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Response Number 7
Name: Ian Scholz
Date: February 9, 2002 at 09:05:57 Pacific
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The machines are all running Microsoft client Networks and have ips in the 192.168.0.XXX scheme...
I have a bit of LAN experience, but I really can't guess what's wrong...
Could someone tell me where I can get a tool to configure tcp/ip...


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Response Number 8
Name: aosace
Date: February 9, 2002 at 12:15:55 Pacific
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Sounds like a possible browse master setting? Im not sure how WinME works on a lan since Ive never used ME, but Ive had similar problems with Win95 machines on a lan, the older 95 liked to be the browse master even with newer 98se machines on the same network. Maybe the ME just 'wants' to be the browse master? Check its settings, if its 'auto' try enable/disable.

PS Doesnt the XP Network Wizard put out setup floppies for all of the client machines?


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Response Number 9
Name: keith
Date: February 9, 2002 at 12:16:30 Pacific
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did you use the wizard in xp, and use the floppy created in all the other machines, if you change anything, you have to redo the floppy.


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Response Number 10
Name: Ron
Date: February 9, 2002 at 12:19:08 Pacific
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I have a peer-to-peer lan and upgraded one computer to xp home. Others are Win 98se. I have DSL through a linksys router which provides a pretty good firewall. The sp networking has a firewall installed as the default. I know you said it was off, but check it again and make sure you turn it off. After I turned off the firewall my other computers stopped hanging when I tried to access the network or to use office mail through Outlook.


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Response Number 11
Name: juneau
Date: February 9, 2002 at 14:52:33 Pacific
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Try this . . . In the Network, install the NWLink IPX/SPX Netbios Compatable protocol on all machines.

Then modify the protocol bindings order on the XP machine:

1. Open Network Connections.

2 .On the Advanced menu, click Advanced Settings

3. On the Adapters and Bindings tab, under Connections highlight the "Local Area Connections".

4.Under Bindings for Local Area Connection in the File and Printer Sharing section ONLY, check the box for IPX and uncheck TCP/IP.


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Response Number 12
Name: Ian Scholz
Date: February 10, 2002 at 04:14:13 Pacific
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I didn't use the wizard and therefore didn't create a special floppy...Does that thing help any? I double checked the firewall setting, turned it on and off again. I also tried IPX/SPX, but nothing helped...
At the moment, from what Ron described, I got the feeling that the firewall is still active, although the respective box is not checked. Is there a registry key where I can make sure it is turned off manually?


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Response Number 13
Name: aosace
Date: February 10, 2002 at 10:15:42 Pacific
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If you run the XP network wizard it gives you the option of exporting the configuration, as an application, to a floppy disk. Run the app on your other machines, then at least you know that the configs are correct, and you can go from there.


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Response Number 14
Name: Ian Scholz
Date: February 10, 2002 at 11:03:52 Pacific
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I will try that but I have doubts if the problem is with the non XP machines...the ME and 98SE machines can access and transfer from each other without a problem...
Does the disk allow me to assign different IPs to the machines or do I have to adjust that manually?


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Response Number 15
Name: Ian Scholz
Date: February 11, 2002 at 05:19:28 Pacific
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I tried using the netsetup-floppy, but it didn't help. :-(
Using my Laptop, I found that I could in fact access the XP machines...I thought the Laptop had crashed trying to access one of my XPs, but after ~10 minutes it opened the file I was trying to transfer... The time seems way to long for 3megs - What could be slowing down a LAN that much?


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Response Number 16
Name: Dean
Date: May 1, 2002 at 09:16:16 Pacific
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I've experienced the same exact problem.

I've got a small private network with no firewall. Using windows 2000 server with dhcp. With the XP(NTFS) computer and with a Windows 2000 PRO(NTFS), it hangs for a while trying to access win98/ME computers.

I've been struggling with this problem for 2 months now. I almost think it is a problem with NTFS trying to access Fat32 now. But at this point I don't believe anything I think. This problem is so frustrating...

Dean


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