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WRT54G and DCHP

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Name: the RAM
Date: December 9, 2008 at 14:44:38 Pacific
OS: Win XP Home
CPU/Ram: 2.41Ghz-1.25GB
Product: (me) / NA
Comment:

I have the Linksys WRT54G wireless-g router, which is not assigning IP addresses to any of the computers that we use.

I called the ISP, and they reset the connection just to make sure that that did not have anything to do with it. I am able to connect a laptop directly to the modem, and use the internet that way, but when the modem is plugged into the router, the router does not assign any IP address.

I just recently upgraded the firmware, and we were able to use the internet just fine, so I have down-graded the firmware just to make sure that that was not part of the problem. I also did a factory reset, but to no avail.

So I tried installing the dd-wrt firmware modification for my router model. Though it did not fix the problem, I have to admit that I am amazed at how many settings and graphs you can change and view with the dd-wrt. It makes the router so much more functional.

So right now, I have a laptop connected to the modem, and all the other computers in the house are able to connect to the internet via ad-hoc network and internet sharing, so the laptop is supplying the computers with wireless internet.

It would, however, be really nice to get the router back in working condition without having to buy a new one.

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Response Number 1
Name: wanderer
Date: December 9, 2008 at 14:58:02 Pacific
Reply:

You don't make a single mention of checking the dhcp server service on the router.

Why?

What is the ip scope in the router?
What does a ipconfig show when you don't get a ip?

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Response Number 2
Name: the RAM
Date: December 9, 2008 at 15:15:15 Pacific
Reply:

You know what, I think that it is giving out IP addresses, but it has something else to do with DHCP.

Here are what you were looking for:

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3209...

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3081...

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Response Number 3
Name: RTAdams89
Date: December 9, 2008 at 15:54:22 Pacific
Reply:

I would go back to the latest Linksys firmware, until you get this worked out. Few options means fewer problem areas.

Anyhow, try this:

1)Connect 2 laptops to the router.
2)Retrieve the IP address of both laptops (As you did in screenshot 1).
3)Go to laptop A, go to the command line and "ping" laptop B. Do you get replies?

If both laptops have proper IP addresses and can ping each other, then the problem is not with the router<->laptop connection, but with the router<->modem connection.

Verify the WAN settings on the router are correct.

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Response Number 4
Name: wanderer
Date: December 9, 2008 at 16:06:34 Pacific
Reply:

That second picture is of the WAN interface and it being a dhcp client.

Wrong interface.

Let's see a picture of the lan interface and the DHCP SERVER [not client].

Yes it appears you are getting a ip address and gateway correctly.

So what has your issue been since it appears we are not dealing with a dhcp server/lan dhcp client issue?

Wrong wan interface settings?

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Response Number 5
Name: StuartS
Date: December 9, 2008 at 16:33:23 Pacific
Reply:

Ipconfig /all will give you more information and will confirm beyond doubt what your LAN DHCP status is.

I agree with Wanderer. IP address of 192.168.1.123 and Default gateway of 192.168.1.1 indicates that LAN DHCP is probably working fine. The problem appears to be with your WAN configuration.

Stuart


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Response Number 6
Name: the RAM
Date: December 9, 2008 at 17:05:44 Pacific
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Response Number 7
Name: StuartS
Date: December 9, 2008 at 18:15:32 Pacific
Reply:

Your LAN DHCP is working fine and your computers should be getting the correct IP address. However, your WAN side of things as shown on the second screen isn't.

You need to enter the IP address, subnet mask and default gateway from your modem. Your modem should provide this automatically. If it doesn't you need to enter it manually. Until there is something in these spaces the Interent is never going to work.

This is your public IP address provided by your ISP. The 192.168.xx.xx addresses are private IP addresses provided by your router.

Stuart


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Response Number 8
Name: the RAM
Date: December 9, 2008 at 18:29:39 Pacific
Reply:

Thanks for the info, but if my modem is not supplying my router with the subnet mask and gateway, then how do I find out what those numbers are? Or where they are located.

Thanks


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Response Number 9
Name: the RAM
Date: December 9, 2008 at 21:48:23 Pacific
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Update:

Just picked up a new router from a local computer store, and, in short, the internet is still not working.

I read something about our particular ISP cracking down on people who use a lot of computers behind a router. I think that I am going to give them a call tomorrow morning and see what is going on.

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Response Number 10
Name: Richard59
Date: December 10, 2008 at 00:08:20 Pacific
Reply:

Connect a PC directly to the modem. Run Ipconfig /all to find out the public IP address and gateway etc.
Write down all the settings.

Connect your router and connect a PC. Log into the router admin interface. Manually set the WAN settings to match what you wrote down.

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Response Number 11
Name: StuartS
Date: December 10, 2008 at 03:20:26 Pacific
Reply:

>> I read something about our particular ISP cracking down on people who use a lot of computers behind a router. <<

That's not your problem judging by the information you have posted. The method described by Richard is the solution.

When home routers first came on the market at lot of ISPs tried to restrict the number of computers connected behind a router to a single line. That was when bandwidth was in short supply and 512 Kbs was a super-fast connection.

However the methods of detecting how many computers there are were all a bit hit and miss, there is no reliable way of telling so ISPs abandoned the idea and with the improvements in bandwidth made it a bit unnecessary.

I cant believe an ISP is going back to that idea. It is like an electric company trying to restrict how many light bulbs you have. Providing you don't exceed your power allocation or bandwidth you are just using what you are paying for.

Stuart


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