ok guys i got it all figured out its the ram im not shure what it was about it but i swapped out thec 1 128MB chip w/ 3 other chips and the win 200 and xp cd launched (as an upgrade from win 98) i pulled one of the 3 chips and put the one 128 mb chip back in than received the same error from win 98 that i received the first time in put the cd(s) in i appreciate all the feed back guys i consider my knowlage of computers to be average and am always looking to expand it

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who cares about performance now if i ran across parts to make it run faster at a later time in date than i would be happy w/ the performance forums are for help not insults in other words if you dont have anything constructive to say dont reply i consider my knowlage of computers to be average and am always looking to expand it

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korn When speaking of performance the issue isn't blazing speed, it is minimal performance. Your computing experience would be better when using Win98 than XP with your hardware. Memory is the biggest issue.

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who cares about performance now if i ran across parts to make it run faster at a later time in date than i would be happy w/ the performance forums are for help not insults in other words if you dont have anything constructive to say dont reply Whose post is it that have insulted you? I don't see anyone insulting you other than giving you helpful advices. i_XpUser

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My point was that maybe your XP installations are failing because you may not have enough RAM.

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I guess the OP may have abandoned his/her thread. There are some people that dislike being told what's best rather than how to get something working no matter how futile it may be - either immediate or in due time. i_XpUser

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"Shure" seems that way - Mr 'average' may have left the building Always a source of puzzlement - some come here to ask those with more experience to resolve some ill defined issue and then rail when it's suggested that their ideas are incorrect or unworkable ... a charmer I'm not one of those who think Bill Gates is the devil. I simply suspect that if Microsoft ever met up with the devil, it wouldn't need an interpreter.

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h still around had a busy day yester day tho im no longer getting the "file \ntkrnlmp.exe could not be loaded the error code is 7" error for windows xp install and sorry im just used to getting flamed in most other forums that sounded like a flame to and i got all upset over nuttin

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"sorry im just used to getting flamed in most other forums". If the preceeding comment is true perhaps you should evaluate your behavior when posting. If you don't have time to interact with responders it might be better if you wait until you do have time. Additionally, it is impolite to snark at comments when they were solicited. YOU came here for help. The understanding is you accept all polite responses and use what YOU feel is correct. Your comment in response #8 was impolite. This forum strives to educate as well as assist with problems. The comment by XPUser was intended to be helpful. If you felt it was in error the proper response would be to ask WHY this comment was made. I hope you don't take THIS response as a flame but rather as help. To your credit you did come back to respond. Many folks come here, post, receive many responses and we never hear from them again.

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"Why bother installing XP on a machine with only 128mb RAM? You will NEVER be happy with its performance anyway." souns far from polite at least to me

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In your original post you mentioned problems installing WINXP PRO on a computer that only has 128MB RAM. The errors that you quoted sounded similar to errors that I have received in the past when trying to install an OS on a computer with inadequate memory. This prompted me to ask how much memory you have. According MS, 128MB is the minimum RAM for XP PRO. I don't believe that any of the posts prior to #8 were insulting or disrespectful.

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as far as never responding again that in itself is rediculess (like said in the end of the reply prior) but like i said above the way the comment appeared to me was far from polite. to answer XPUser's question elaberate on "why i want to run xp on an older machine as such" is for easyer networking/file sharing between this computer and my other computers as far as the idea of this computer(the one im trying to install xp on) not meeting the hardware specs. of xp that cant be true due to the fact i am currently running xp on a Dell G1 optiplex running an Intel Celeron at 333MHZ and 256MB ram (pc100) so i know that xp should run on the computer i am trying to install it on as the hardware stats are far more supperior than the one i am currently posting this reply on (the computer i am posting on is a spare im just using it as its the only pc i have w/ a floppy drive that works at the moment) I do apologize for taking XPUser's post out of context and will try to learn to take comments as such w/ a more open mind

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And you are welcome to post again, should the need arise.

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i dunno if i mentioned this but i am not getting the BIOS error any more now when i try to install XP im getting the same error as i did w/ win 2000 "file Ntkrnlmp.exe could not be loaded the error code is 7". I am aware that i posted i was no longr getting this error that was supposed to say i am no longer getting the error "file \BIOSinfo.inf could not be loaded the error code is 4097" im sorry for the inconveniance and any possible confusion

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Origionally posted by XPUser: "My point was that maybe your XP installations are failing because you may not have enough RAM." i took that matter into account and have installed 2 more RAM chips and am now currently running at 512MB ram pc133 rather than the 128MB pc133 i WAS trying to install with. Had another computer with a bad mobo of the same make and model accept two major diffrences: the bad computer had a CPU that was a p3 that ran at 900MHZ and was a normal processor where as the computer i am attempting the install on has a p3 processor that runs at 500MHZ and has a "slot" type processor

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i am still having the error code 7 crap obviously its a .exe failing to work correctly but im not shure why does teh video card have to meet certin specs to install XP?

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Look here for min. system requirements. http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/...

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HI korn_16_f_t_l, There is no need to apology. We are humans and we all have our ups & downs. Regards i_XpUser

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new update on my situation i tryed to install again got through all 6 boot up disks this time though. it asked me to insert the windows xp cd and asked if i wanted to install xp or repair i selected install (of course) it hung up for a little bit and i got the followin on screen error: " A problem has been detected and windows has been shut down to prevent damage to your computer. if this is the first time you have seen this stop error screen restart restart your computer if this screen appears again follow these steps: "check to be shure you have adequate disk space (20GB) if a driver is identified in the stop message, disable the driver or check with the manufacturer for driver updates. try changing video adaptors. check with your hardware vendor for any BIOS updates. disable BIOS emeory options such as caching or shadowing. If you need to use safe mode to remove or disable components restart your computer and press F8 to select start up options and than select safe mode. Technical Information: ***stop: 0x0000008E,0x808550F4 0xF8C70A14,0x00000000" what the hell does all that mean?

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Here's What You Need to Use Windows XP Professional PC with 300 megahertz or higher processor clock speed recommended; 233 MHz minimum required (single or dual processor system);* Intel Pentium/Celeron family, or AMD K6/Athlon/Duron family, or compatible processor recommended 500MHZ pentium 3 (got it) 128 megabytes (MB) of RAM or higher recommended (64 MB minimum supported; may limit performance and some features) 512MB pc133 RAM (got it WAS running 128MB till i was told that may have been the install failure issue) 1.5 gigabytes (GB) of available hard disk space 20GB (got it) Super VGA (800 x 600) or higher-resolution video adapter and monitor not shure what super VGA is but i have AGP card nvidia TNT2 model 64 BIOS2.05.13.04 16MB RAM CD-ROM or DVD drive (not shure waht brand but got it) Keyboard and Microsoft Mouse or compatible pointing device (and of course got those) does any one see anything in that check list that could be causing me to have problems with my XP install? could the BIOS for the vid card be outdated or causing it? (didnt know video cards even had a BIOS)

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korn It appears you have issues that would be best resoled by formatting and re-installing. If that is possible I suggest you do that. remember ALL files will be lost in the process so if there are files that need to be copied I suggest you do that first. Re-read the entire thread and don't really know what is going on as you piggybacked on another thread. As I stated in my first reply, I don't know what similiar problems you are having. BIOS error messages could be due to incorrect settings. Have you entered the BIOS screens and checked to see things are set right. The fact you don't seem to be able to boot directly to your CD drive and subsequent read errors are indicative of a failing drive or bad media (WinXP CD). Did you set the boot order to have the CD before the HDrive? When a message appears to boot from the CD you need to strike any key at that time. Failure to strike a key will bypass the CD drive.

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When a message appears to boot from the CD you need to strike any key at that time. Failure to strike a key will bypass the CD drive. i do get the strike any key message but when i hit "any key" it dosent do any thing but boot to win98 as far as reformatting everything i have already dont that and tryed the XP install with a balnk HDD and have gotten no where there as well. when i said i was having similar problems i was attempting to post in another thread located here >>> http://www.computing.net/windowsxp/... i did not that at the bottom of this thread starter i was prompted to start my own thread so i did and i also added a link so that every on would know what my problems were similar to as well i dont know if u were replying at the same time as i was but i was asking if the BIOS on the video card could be possibly causing this no i have not played around in the BIOS and yes it is set to boot the cd before the HDD As a matter of fact becaus this computer was given to me I restored BIOS settings to default and have reset my boot method so that the cd rom was read first and saved the BIOS settings that way

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i would also like to note that the "GREY LINES" discussed in another forum located here >>> http://www.nocrash.com/ncbbs/msgs/1... is also an occurance on the computer i am trying to install XP on I guess the only suspect left is the video card?

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Try a different monitor to eliminate or confirm bad Graphics card.

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"Try a different monitor to eliminate or confirm bad Graphics card." already tryed that as im working on 2 diffrent monitors any how that and i gave the the previous owner (girlfriends mom) a diffrent monitor because she thought it was the monitor as well and guess what the lines stayed ill shut down the computer make shure the card is seated and the connections in the AGP slot arent filled w/ dust or some crap but so far the only culprit left is the vid card, if that is the case itll b a little bit before i can repost cuz ill have to track down another AGP card to use from a friend or somthing

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Using the latest drivers isn't always the best thing to do. It may be a defective card though. Still shouldn't stop the installation of WinXP though. I'm not an electronics engineer but I THINK a bad PSU or other component may be able to cause lines on the display. One other thing I once ran into. A crappy case distorted so bad with the covers off that the AGP card wouldn't fasten down correctly. Lifted up on the back end. Usually anything like that will result in NO display. Have you visually check the MBoard over for things like bulging capacitors?

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"Have you visually check the MBoard over for things like bulging capacitors? " nothing noticible to the naked eye. If there was an issue w/ this wouldent it cause the computer other physical problems aside from not installing XP?

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ok im still having an issue w/ the computer i have removed all pci card and even switched cd roms (it solved the problem w/ the computer not wanting to boot from cd like it should) i pulled out the agp vid card and put an nvidia rivi TNT 2 in (this solved the grey lines i had w/ the old nvidia Riva) and i am now getting as far as windows copying the files except at the point where it is copying the driver.cab at 11% or 12% it locks up giving me another fatal error screen could this be caused because the video card is not windows XP compatible? if i need to ill try to install it again and post the new error code/screen any feed back at all ppl??

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To respond to your issues in order. The boot to CD was due to incorrect jumper settings, which you rectified by reconfiguring the drives. The AGP card was obviously defective. The TNT card couln't be an issue at that point because windows hadn't yet started to configure the hardware. Your errors could be caused by a number of things. The CD is bad, in which case copying the entire contents of the /386 folders to the harddrive sometimes helps. The CD drive isn't reading the disk right. There is something wrong with your hardware. This thread has been going on for too long. You need to sort out your hardware BEFORE attemping to install ANY OS. Your issue sounds like bad capacitors to me but you said you looked at that. The capacitors are shiny silver cylinders with flat tops that are cut like a pie. Those cuts will bulge up if bad. Download and test using memtest 86 or another memory tester. Run the program from a floppy disk or CD. If you have ANY errors don't use that RAM. Test one by one. If all pass, test as a unit. Is your WinXP CD an original or a burned copy? If burned copy it may be a defective burn. Do you have any idea how to setup the BIOS selections?

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ive been eliminating the hardware issues 1 by as as i have removed all PCI card i see no bilges in any capacitor the cd rom that is now booting correctly and eve switched hdd's the BIOS is set correctlyas far as running memtest86 on THIS set of ram i have not done that yet it is not the install cd as i have tryed several of those as well including burned cd's and the origional cd any other suggestions?

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"...in which case copying the entire contents of the /386 folders to the harddrive sometimes helps..." how do i do this?

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korn I am not helping anymore until you check your hardware out.

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no blown capacitors on n e thing no blown threw spots on the board either. n e thing else in particular i should look for physically wile i have this whole thing pulled apart?

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i checked the mobo battery it tests at 0.3v and the battery its self says it should be 3v could this be the problem?

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also noticed a capacitor on the VID CARD its not swollen or n e thing like that but does appear to have part of the plastic on the out side damaged

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Are you sure you are setting your meter to the correct scale? You tried TWO video cards didn't you?

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[quote]Are you sure you are setting your meter to the correct scale? You tried TWO video cards didn't you?[/quote] ya im shure but it wasent the vid card i checked w/ the volt meter it was the battery on the MOBO though i did have the same particular problem w/ an older HP i bought w/ a bad hdd from a yard sale and i had to go through a few hard drives to find one that windows agreed w/ i think in the process of messing w/ this computer (the one u have been trying to help me with) i have messed up some of the hard drives (or the partions at least) prolly cuz of the failed installs and ths BSD's i kept gettin in the middle of the installs and partitioning them i consider my knowlage of computers to be average and am always looking to expand it

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korn Those TWO sentences were meant to be taken separately. My question about the video cards was to point out that YOU tried two different, supposedly working cards, therby eliminating the video.

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yes i did try 2 video card i consider my knowlage of computers to be average and am always looking to expand it

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I know you did.

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