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Name: Reginald
Date: February 14, 2005 at 08:19:19 Pacific
OS: xp-pro
CPU/Ram: heavy
Comment:

I am reposting this request for information / instructions to delete the windows-loaded backgammon (and all games) from my system. WFP keeps reinstalling them. A previous response directed me to the Microsoft documentation, where I was unable to find anything specific to this situation. Thank you.



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Response Number 1
Name: XpUser
Date: February 14, 2005 at 09:02:54 Pacific
Reply:

WFP is one of the Windows proprietary frontiers that very few people outside M$ understood. If you are determined to get to the root of why WFP reinstall the deleted files, and the MSKB I referred to you in this thread does not help, your only option would be to call M$. Be aware that any M$ Phone Support may cost you.

i_XpUser


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Response Number 2
Name: Lesley
Date: February 14, 2005 at 09:22:27 Pacific
Reply:

Reggie Thornton

HOW are you getting rid of them ?

Are you going to Add\Remove - Windows Components ?

Or are you simply Deleting them?

Lesley


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Response Number 3
Name: Reginald
Date: February 14, 2005 at 20:34:38 Pacific
Reply:

XpUser - Thank you again. Your links do describe why WFP reinstalls certain files it deems necessary (what good is Windows without backgammon?). But I'm not determined to understand the why it does it, just the how to override it for the one (or more) instance(s) of removing games. I'm not a tech or coder, so I hesitate to try using what I can learn at the links you provided. But much thanks anyway.


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Response Number 4
Name: Reginald
Date: February 14, 2005 at 20:47:56 Pacific
Reply:

Lesley - Both. Deleting doesn't work, courtesy of afforementioned WFP. Add/Remove Programs / Add/Remove Windows Components seems to offer the option to remove Games, after drilling down through Accessories and Utilities. A wizard seems to do something, but the files remain, and they continue to work.


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Response Number 5
Name: Ronnie Ratt
Date: February 14, 2005 at 22:03:05 Pacific
Reply:

G'day Reggie, it's possible that there are copies of these files in the Windows\system32\dllcache folder where SFC.exe can reinstall them from. Don't know for sure if the folder is Windows exclusive files or not. If copies are there then they can be deleted so they cannot be reinstalled.

Once you delete the actual files you don't want from wherever they are you will get the WFP dialog searching to reinstall them, just click cancel and you will be asked if you want them reinstalled again or kept [if file changed] and you can answer appropiately.

The whole dllcache can be deleted...eventually but at your own peril.

Never bothered me killing that folder and the space I saved was good.

[actually I saved it to a cdrw disc before deleting it from windows...I'm not that dumb]


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Response Number 6
Name: XpUser
Date: February 15, 2005 at 03:00:34 Pacific
Reply:

Hi Reggie,

Ronnie Ratt certainly raised a good point regarding the dllcache folder, which made me realize that you cannot delete any of the Windows XP-installed games - Internet Backgammon, Internet Checkers, Internet Hearts, Internet Reversi, and Internet Spades.

Why? These Internet games are an integral part of the operating system, just like Internet Explorer and Windows Media Player. Since the purpose of WFP is to help protect the system proactively and automatically, any file you delete from the core OS will be automatically reinstalled. There is nothing you can do about it. This is Windows. Love it or hate it.

i_XpUser


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Response Number 7
Name: XpUser
Date: February 15, 2005 at 03:10:47 Pacific
Reply:

I forgot to add one more thing, the internet-based games mentioned above are an integrated part of Windows XP Home Edition only. They are not supplied with Windows XP Pro.

i_XpUser


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Response Number 8
Name: Reginald
Date: February 15, 2005 at 09:22:39 Pacific
Reply:

Thanks everyone for the feedback, I just scanned through the posts and will review them more closely later today time permitting.

I did notice the last comment regarding games not being on XP Pro, and while that may have been the case previously, it wasn't so in November when I ordered this laptop from Dell.


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Response Number 9
Name: Reginald
Date: February 16, 2005 at 06:37:00 Pacific
Reply:

And the answer is...

Here are the steps I took to (it appears) successfully delete the games files:

1. Go to Add/Remove
2. Go to Add/Remove Windows Components
3. Drill down in the details to Games
4. UNcheck its check box
5. Back out of details and through the Wizard operation
6. Search for the file by name (not extension)
7. Change the filenames or delete them
8. Reboot.

So far, all gone. Thanks everyone for your help.


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Response Number 10
Name: XpUser
Date: February 16, 2005 at 10:47:45 Pacific
Reply:

Thanks for the update. In the future if you ever change your mind, you can reverse the steps to get back the games.

i_XpUser


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