Ok i ran into another unusual problem.. it seems it won't read my Windows XP recovery cd when my Power Supply Port Cord is plugged into my HD, but if unplug it and leave the BUS cord plugged in the cd boots.. I have to plug the Power supply cord back into it's port though while on the installation screen to actually work or it will say something like it's not getting any power or reading the HD.. I'm really stumped now..

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P4 uses different cords than any previous versions. Make sure that you are using the 80 wire ribbon. Also, P4's use more power, so I hope you upgraded your power supply when you upgraded your system (if you did it yourself). Yesterday it worked; Today it doesn't. Windows is like that!

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It's Retail so I got whatever it came with.. The PowerSupply should still be good.. This only happend a few days ago.. It was working perfectly before i took it out of my systema nd put it into my buddies..

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Also about the jumper settings? I didn't mess with that, but can anyone run by me how that works? i noticed there's 8 pins and two small jumpers with 2 connecting holes in each.. i have mine set (|_:)<-- One is set on the first two pins (top to bottom) and the second one on the 2nd and 3rd row (2nd Bottom pin to 3rd Bottom Pin) someone help me out i'm lost. lol

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my God !!! what the dickens are you doing? Everyone here was more than willing to help you out. all you had to do was ask.now we find out you haven't the slightest idea as to what you are doing and you are playing around with the insides of a computer. On top of that you post in here and not tell us the whole story. You got some gumption there kiddo. here is what you do! you repost and you be sure to mention exactly what was wrong before you started messing around and this time don't you dare leave anything out. We do this because all of us feel that we have some knowledge to share and don't mind doing so till someone like you comes along and tries to use us to patch up something you can't be honest about in the first place. Disgusting as hell. Like we have all this time to waste on you. you are very lucky to even get anyone to help. IN THE MATTERS OF STYLE, swim with the current; in matters of principle, STAND LIKE A ROCK

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You've got yourself into a fine mess as Oliver Hardy would say to Stan Laurel. Forget about repair and obey the first post from 'Lurkswithin'

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So you didn't change your jumpers, o.k.... Enter the BIOS (look in your manual for the proper key to enter). Once in the BIOS, look for a setting to auto-detect the hard drive, you should then be able to re-install your version of XP. If you don't have a 'hard copy' manual, you can access the manual on hp's site, complete with info on how to reinstall to your original configuration. Still confused? As suggested, list your pc model with all available pertinent information so we know where to begin walking you through the problem. sLLs

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I like your style LL !!! IF IT AINT BROKE, DONT FIX IT

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First of all relax! I know i may not be skilled in the art of the PC like most of you may be, but i know to some extent on what i'm doing.. Yes i may have made the mistake on not properly changing my Jumpers around for the proper Config and from what i understand i thought you could have two seperate OS's installed on your PC on seperate HD's and could choose on which to boot. That is the Story man and i've left nothing out.. I put my HD in my buddies PC, booted it up, started getting a blue screen which only remained for about 1 second and it continusly rebooted giving me the same 1 second blue screen. So.. i mounted it back to my PC, Got a Black Screen with a (-or_) Blinking in the top-left hand corner of my screen. I thought a bootdisk would help, but come to find it didn't I got anoter Blue screen (assuming it's the same blue screen from my buddies PC) i can't get into any Boot Options or can't access my BIOS.. My PC Spec Pentium 4 2.54 Ghz. NVIDIA GeForce 4 Ti 4400 SoundBlaster Audigy 1024 RAM (DDR i think) Windows XP Home Edition.. When i try to mount my HD on any other PC i get the same BlueScreen as i do on my PC. Another weird problem i'm having is i put the Windows Recovery CD in my Drive, but it won't read it. BUT! if i unplug the power cord to the HD and leave the BUS cord attached or Vise Versa the CD boots up, but only to tell me it can't find any Massive Storage Device.. Now when i started getting that i thought maybe there was something wrong with my Power Supply or BUS Cables, but i've tried 2 different BUS Cables and Power Supplies and i get the same Problem.. i don't think i've left anything out, but if a question comes up about something i'm sure i can fill you in on it.. I've tried everything i know to fix it and i've even had some people who knew a little more about PC's work on it an they couldn't fix it.. I came here for help cause this is a "Support Forum" so i apologize if i'm wasting "your time" lurk. :P If you guys have any other suggestions i'd really appreciate it..

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Also.. Hewlett-Packard and a SamSung 80 GB HD

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You may have tried this already, but if you haven't do it, at this point you have nothing to louse. Disconnect the power from your computer. Disconnect all components from the power supply and mother bard. This includes all ide cables case fans etc. Remove the sound card and any other pci devices you may have. So the only thing you have connected is your mother board, and video card. Remove the ram very carefully and place on a antistatic bag, if you don't have one the top of the plastic cover of a cd should do the job, don't touch the ram chips with your fingers, handle the ram by the edges of the pcb. Now remove the battery from the mother board for a good 10 minutes or so. Have a good look around the board etc and make sure the master power cable is seated correctly. Place the battery back into the board, but try not to touch the surface of the battery with your fingers, and make sure it is seated correctly. Place the ram back into its correct dim slot, and make sure it is seated correctly, the white retention clips must click into place. Connect the power cord to the power supply, switch the power on at the wall, boot the comp, and as soon as you get the post beep, pres either PF2 or PF10 or the Delete key and see if the bios setup screen will pop up for you. The manual should tell you which key will bring the bios up. If we can get that far with nothing connected that we are half way there. If the bios does come up, it should be in the fail safe default mode, go through each screen and make sure the bios has the correct information for what is on the board. EG processor speed, agp type, ram amount, floppy showing, clock etc. Save any changes you make and power down the computer, wait a few minutes and reboot, jump back into the bios and see if the changes have been saved. Pay particular attention to the clock, if the time is still showing the correct time, the battery is ok, if not you will need to change the battery. From that point power down and connect each component individually and each time make sure you can get back into the bios and the component is recognised. See how you go with that for the moment. IF IT AINT BROKE, DONT FIX IT

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Post the model number of your computer: Hewlet Packard Pavilion XXXX ? There may be a specific key combination for booting to the restore cd or partition. sLLs

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It is a Hewlett Packard Pavilion 700

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Ok now I am confused the model no you listed and the components you listed above do not match the HP spec sheet !!! The chipset listed for that model is the intel i815 which does not support a p4 2.5 And the ram spec is sd ram and not DDR with 2 dimm sockets which can take a max of 512 meg. How can you have a gig ?? Do you wont to tell us what you actualy did ??? IF IT AINT BROKE, DONT FIX IT

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What i have is a p4 2.54 and the RAM i just upgraded from 512 to 1024.. I didn't take the time to look what the Max. Ram intake was, but it sure seemed to run a hell of a lot faster when I put the 1024 in.. The components I listed are correct. Maybe the HP Model # is wrong? It says HP Pavilion 700.. I have the System #, but I don't know if that would help.. I had the the ram installed way before I had this problem though. And the HD was partitioned with a Backup, but at this point I don't know how to access it.

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I know the Chipset for the model is i386.

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Ok One more thing !! Open the case up and have a good look at the mother board !! There should be some white lettring printed on the mother board, not quiet sure where but normaly it can bee seen near the ram slots, and the processor socket or in between the pci slots. Or perhaps alonf the edge of the board itself, ther emay be a HP sticker on there somplace 2 see what you can find out. And by all means post the system number that may be od some help. IF IT AINT BROKE, DONT FIX IT

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The System # P9852A There is a Sticker on the back of the Tower listing the Model, S/N and System # I only found a small stick with a BAR CODE on it and a little writing that says MAT/NO 132857 also from the sticker on the Tower (HW BOM: 101 and SW BOM: NA80) I also found a way to access my BIOS and i loaded the Default BIOS and i still get the same Blank Screen with the Blinking (- or _) It does detect my HardDrive as well.. Still won't boot up..

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The fact you have the bios up is a good sign. I suspect you will not get the system to boot, it sounds very much like the boot record on the har drive has been corupted or perhaps the hard drive itself. The fast it sees the hard drive is a good sign. Grab the recovery CD and place it in the cd rom, jump back into the bios and find the boot order setup screen. Change the boot order to this order. CD Rom, HDD0, Floppy. Save the changes and exit the bios, once the cmos is updated and the comp reboots the cd should do the rest. The problem you have is whatever happens, you might loose what you have on the hard d rive now. IF IT AINT BROKE, DONT FIX IT

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Bingo we have your model Here is the link it is a hp753N http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/genericDocument?lc=en&cc=ca&docname=bph07768#N100F9 Still bit confused it says that the board has integrated grpahics, cos the chipset is the 845G intel, how do you have the ti4400 video card installed ?? The spec sheet doesnt quote an agp slot !!! IF IT AINT BROKE, DONT FIX IT

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OOOPSSS Sorry it does have an agp slot. Is the bios setup to the agp as the primary display ??? IF IT AINT BROKE, DONT FIX IT

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No it's not set as the primary display, but it still reads the video card fine.. If i lose what i have the HD that is fine.. I could use a fresh install of Windows anyways.. That itself is another problem though.. At this point i wouldn't know how to do that because i can't access the command prompt.

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Janos - I tried you method and changed the boot order.. It did read the CD finally, but, when it reaches the "Setup is starting windows" it goes right back to that Blue screen of death.

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To get the thing to work correctly you will need to set the agp as the primary display, other wise you will have problems. Also have a good look through the bios and see if you can find a setting that say PLUG and PLay OS this must be set to YES. Make sure that the Dram Timing is set to eather Auto or By Spd, the cpu clock timing is set to 133,. Set the bios boot order as I have instructed. Look at your cd's that you have with the comp you should have on that is marked Windows XP or somethinf similar, it could also be marked as system recovery, or system restore, just depends on how HP have labeled it. Once you place the cd in the cd drive and reboot the comp the cd will boot the computer and start the installation, once ou have that than just follow the instructions on the screens. IF IT AINT BROKE, DONT FIX IT

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Ok i set AGP as the Primary Display and the Plug and Play OS was already set to "Yes" As far as the Dram Timing and CPU Clock timing i don't see anything for that or it's un accessable. I ran the same boot order and the CD and it still did nothing..

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If you have more than one cd/cdr drive try swaping the cd to the other one. See if that works !! IF IT AINT BROKE, DONT FIX IT

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Still having the same problem.

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Ok My next question is are you using the correct CD ?? If you are, than I will need to think about this, for a while unless someone else here has any ideas. But the fact that you can get the bios up and it will take changes is adran good start. IF IT AINT BROKE, DONT FIX IT

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I may or may not be using the correct CD.. It's for Reinstalling Windows XP HE which the only one i have, but it's not allowing me to get to the installation screen. I also have a Paritioned Back-Up of Windows XP HE, but i just don't know how to access it..

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You need to use the Recovery Partition. Disconnect all peripheral devices (printer – scanner- etc). Start the computer – when you see the HP logo press the F10 key. If the logo isn’t visible, keep tapping the F10 during boot-up. The HP System Recovery wizard will appear – just follow on screen directions. Let us know how you make out. sLLs

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I tried what you said LL and nothing happend.. I get the HP logo screen and contiunously tap F10 but it still goes straight to the Blank Black Screen with the (- or _).

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Have you tried removing the newer stick of ram? I know the machine ran fine with that ram, but that is the 1 upgraded componet. We need to eliminate that as a possible problem. sLLs

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Yes i removed the newer ram and replaced it with my stock ram.. Still the same.

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It's time to check if that drive is good. You had the right idea by slaving the drive to your bud's computer. You just needed to adjust jumper settings. If he is running xp its easy. Set his drive jumper to Master and yours to Slave. You can run a chkdsk (check disk) and or format and partition the drive. This page is for example only. You drive jumpers may be different. Most HD's have a legend on the top of the drive for jumper settings. Or you could take the drive to a local shop; many small shops will test the drive for free in hopes that if bad, you will buy a drive from them. sLLs

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Something we all may have missed to ask !!! When you fire up the comp, does the Hard drive light on the from of the case light up and saty on or does it go off after a ehile ?? That is providing that model had a hdd light on the front of the case. Good idea guys was going to suggest that idea next, the fact that the recovery cd wont even boot the comp is starnge in on its own. even if the HDD is dead the xp installer should kick in to start with. But see how we go with this method first. This one is wierd, we are missing something I am sure. IF IT AINT BROKE, DONT FIX IT

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Something we all may have missed to ask !!! When you fire up the comp, does the Hard drive light on the from of the case light up and saty on or does it go off after a ehile ?? That is providing that model had a hdd light on the front of the case. IF IT AINT BROKE, DONT FIX IT

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Something we all may have missed to ask !!! When you fire up the comp, does the Hard drive light on the from of the case light up and saty on or does it go off after a while ?? That is providing that model had a hdd light on the front of the case. Was going to go dwon that track as you2 are my self but the fact the comp wont even boot from the CD is wierd in its self. See what results you get with this, I am sure we are missing something. Strange this one. IF IT AINT BROKE, DONT FIX IT

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Yes there is a Legend for the jumpers on my HardDrive and they are set correctly.. What i don't understand is why in BIOS it detects the HD, but it won't boot up to windows.. I also don't understand why my CD won't repair it or atleast reinstall Windows.. I don't know what that "Plug and Play Detected an error most likely caused by a faulty driver" means at this point.. I thought it couldn't read my HD and that's why i was getting the error, but it detects it fine.. i guess my best bet would to take it over to a shop and hopfully check it for free cause i'm a little short on cash at the moment.. Would you happen to have any other possible suggestions besides taking it to a shop? -LL? or anybody?

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Oh great 3 diffrnt posts dam server. Sorry guys IF IT AINT BROKE, DONT FIX IT

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As far as i know there is no indicating light on the HD. As for the CD booting up.. That boot order u instructed me to put actually worked and the cd did boot, but i still got that "blue screen of death"

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I just read your last post you said I don't know what that "Plug and Play Detected an error most likely caused by a faulty driver" When and what point did you get this error message. Is this something new or something that was there from the begining ?? IF IT AINT BROKE, DONT FIX IT

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I've had it since the begining as well as the Black screen with the blinking - or _. The blue screen occurs when ever i try to use the recovery disk, boot disk, or try to load the HD on another PC..

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Ok So the cd did boot the computer Right !!! You didn't say this in the previous posts the fact that you said it didn't work I understood the cd didn't boot the comp but in fact it did. Pls describe exactly what happened right after the cd booted the comp, and at which point in time did you get the BOD. Cos when XP start loading it actually does give you a blue screen. You need to watch the bottom of the monitor it will show you what it is doing. Did you get that far ?? IF IT AINT BROKE, DONT FIX IT

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Ok let me see if i can explain this as best as possible.. Before the cd would not read up until you instructed that new boot order then the cd read fine.. I get to a blue setup windows for the CD and at the bottom it goes through the proccess of loading many components and drives, but at one point when it says "Setup is Starting Windows" or something similar to that.. Then... it get the blue screen with the Plug and Play Error..

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That's better DA that is the sort of info we need to know. Now we know that the xp installer works, we now know the Hard drive is ok by the looks of it. Xp loads to the point where the installer has loaded the initial set-up, than by rights it should try to reboot the comp on its own, at which point in time it would normally continue to set-up windows. Do you get the BOD before the comp reboots, or do you get the message after the comp reboots ?? And what LL suggested, before is good you need to remove anything that is connected to the computer, so the only thing you have attached is the monitor, keyboard, and mouse, nothing else. IF IT AINT BROKE, DONT FIX IT

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Just so i don't have u confused the actual install of windows did not take place it just loaded up all the components and drivers.etc. Right before the actual setup screen is visable.. After that it gives me the BOD.. I've had everything disconnect except the Monitor, Power Cable, Mouse and Keyboard the entire time..

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I do understand you, when XP install the initial setup and says Setup is starting windows, it trys to reboot the computer for you but this does not mean windows is installed, when the setup reboots and the you get the XP screen show up for the very first time, there are a number of steps from this point which still need to completed, about 20 to 30 mintes before xp is installed from this pont. As you abvsly have access to the net from a nother computer I would like to try something, is the the computer you are trying to fix close to you ?? IF IT AINT BROKE, DONT FIX IT

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Yes, it's in the next room.

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Ok Place the XP cd in the cd rom, when you get asked to press any key to boot from cd do so. From that point you will get the first blue screen as before. At the bottom you will see all the files and folders being copied from the cd to the hard drive. When you see the first blue screen with writing on it, the installer will stop and ask you to press the S key on the keyboard or to press the Enter key to continue. Press enter to keep going with the installation, when you get the next blue screen with writing on it read what it says and post a brief note as to what it is asking you to do. IF IT AINT BROKE, DONT FIX IT

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Ok i put the CD in the CD-ROM and the CD booted up. I did get the first blue screen like I normally do and it's loading all the neccessary files from the CD to the HD.. After it Finshes copying all the files from the cd to the HD it reads "Setup is Starting Windows" at the bottom.. After that i get that BOD. I do not get asked to Press and S yey or ENTER key or anything after that.

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This is what the BOD reads: "A problem has been detected and windows has been shut down to prevent damage to your computer. Plug and Play detected an error most likely caused by a faulty driver. If this is the first time you've seen this Stop Error Screen, restart your computer. If this screen appears again, follow these steps: Check to make sure any new hardeware or software is properly installed. If this is a new installation, ask your hardware or software manufaturer for any windows updates you might need. If problems continue, disable or remove any new installed hardware or software. Diable BIOS Memory options such as Caching or Shadowing. If you need to use Safe Mode to remove or disable components, restart your computer, Press F8 to select Advanced startup options, and then select safe mode. Technical Information *** Stop: 0x000000CA (0x00000001, 0x866D92E0, 0x866DAE30, 0x00000000) ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Take it i've tried pretty much everything it suggested above..

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Thanks for that. yeah I know we are starting to run out of options. Back to the beginning i think !! LL suggested before you take out your hard drive and change the jumpers on the drive from master to slave. Connect it to your friends computer, on the Secondary Ide cable, this cable should have 2 wide connectors on it, one in the middle of the cable and one on the end of the cable. use the middle connector. Make sure that you know what the drive letter assignment on his system is before you do this. When you have connected the hard drive to his comp, start the computer and when windows starts, go to My Computer and have a look what extra drive letter or letters have been given to your hard drive. When you have found them, place the mouse courser over them and right mouse click will bring up a few options. One of them will be to format the drive, you will be warned that all data will be lost, when 100% sure it is what you wish to do press yes/or continue and the drive will be formatted. When it is complete shut down the computer and disconnect your hard drive from it. Place the jumpers on your hard drive back to the Master position and connect it back in your comp using the end connector of your primary Ide cable. At this point try and run the set-up again. BUT MAKE SURE YOUR FRIENDS COMP IS RUNNING XP AS YOUR DRIVE WILL BE NTFS FORMAT, If your friends comp has any other version except win 2000 your drive will not bee seen by any other operating system See how you go with that and post back and tell us what happened. IF IT AINT BROKE, DONT FIX IT

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Ok Thank You.. I have to run a few errands at the moment, but i will be back shortly to do as you instructed and update you on the situation..

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DaSnake, just a thought before pulling the drive; enter the BIOS and set it to the default setting, then look in the bios for installed devices and disable everything that is 'onboard' and not needed for installation (nic - sound - modem) save settings and reboot to cd and try the install. If all goes then you can turn each device back on 1 at a time. When all is installed, reset bios to 'Optimal'. sLLs

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