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Name: Navyretire
Date: September 5, 2005 at 10:55:10 Pacific
Subject: USB 2.0 and SP2 crashing
OS: Windows XP SP1
CPU/Ram: AMD 3700+64, 1 gig ram
Comment:

Has anyone herd of USB 2.0 and WinXP SP2 not working together? Right after I load the drivers for the USB 2.0, then load SP2 and I get off DSL, my system does a serious crash and requires a complete reformat and reload of Windows XP. Going into safe mode and down loading all drivers out of my system does not get around me having to reload XP from the beginning. As all of you know that means going through Microsoft’s dreaded 1 bazillion number activation nonsense or being hounded till you do. Anyway, have any of you either experienced this or herd of this and know a fix or work around. I do feel that it is important to get SP2 in my system but not at the cost of such a serious crash. I have a Biostar NF325-A7 mainboard with an AMD 3700+ 64 bit processor. Thanks, shellback


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Response Number 1
Name: Bryco
Date: September 5, 2005 at 11:11:09 Pacific
Reply: (edit)

Try installing the USB2 controller/driver after you have loaded WinXP.

HTH
Bryan


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Response Number 2
Name: Chuck 2
Date: September 5, 2005 at 11:20:48 Pacific
Reply: (edit)

May want to look around here:

Using programs and hardware with Service Pack 2 (SP2)
http://support.microsoft.com/xpsp2swhw

How to remove SP2

MS No charge Support for XP Service Pack 2
If that is still available.


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Response Number 3
Name: Navyretire
Date: September 5, 2005 at 11:21:49 Pacific
Reply: (edit)

Yes I did and it made no difference.


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Response Number 4
Name: plainandsimple
Date: September 5, 2005 at 11:25:54 Pacific
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XP2 SP2 already has the USB updated Drivers!!!!!!, try a safe mode clean up prior to installing SP2:

http://www.usbman.com/Guides/Cleanup%20Device%20Manager%20Safe%20Mode.htm

Let XP install the drivers it requires, also prior to XP2 the PC should be Virus/Spyware FREE.

What you see is what you get, and what you get is what you see!


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Response Number 5
Name: Navyretire
Date: September 5, 2005 at 11:26:02 Pacific
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Chuck 2,

Thanks, I will take a look at those sites and see what is up. However, have you ever removed SP2? I did once and I might as well have stuck a stick of dinomite in my computer. shellback


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Response Number 6
Name: Chuck 2
Date: September 5, 2005 at 11:31:04 Pacific
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shellback--
I never have removed SP2 because I never have installed it, because of the following:

If I install the IE 6 Security Update Q832894, I then find that all the Help Topics were gone in Windows HELP Index. All came back when I removed
"Internet Explorer Q832894"
from Add/Remove Programs list.

SP2 has that update also.

Just to point out that Windows or IE 6 Updates could affect some Windows functions.



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Response Number 7
Name: Navyretire
Date: September 5, 2005 at 11:34:36 Pacific
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planandsimple,

Maybe my problem is my geforce USB 2.0 drivers and SP2 USB 2.0 drivers are conflicting? Never thought of that and I do not know why I did not??? Oh and I did the safe mode clean up thing and it did nothing. Also, I did not think of disabling the spyware either but I did disable the Anti-virus program . Thanks for your help and good advice. shellback


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Response Number 8
Name: Navyretire
Date: September 5, 2005 at 11:43:22 Pacific
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Chuck 2,
Do you advice not installing SP2? I work with computers at work as well at home and I have friends at work who will not install SP2. They all give different reasons but crashing problems is the one used the most. My new Biostar is the first motherboard that has given me any issues with SP2 and I will not install SP2 if it means problems all the time. I am lucky as I have an early version of WinXP with sp2 on anther disk. That means I can control if I install it or not. Nice!!!! shellback


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Response Number 9
Name: Chuck 2
Date: September 5, 2005 at 11:56:20 Pacific
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Shellback---
On my desktop computer, I have no Service Packs,
or Anti-virus programs. Only 4 or 5 critical updates to prevent such things as the Blaster Worm.

In my MS roamings yesterday, I have found where
you can get critical Updates if you have SP1, without loading SP2---

Update Rollup 1 for Windows XP is available
http://support.microsoft.com/?scid=kb;en-us;826939


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Response Number 10
Name: zero244
Date: September 5, 2005 at 12:07:41 Pacific
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The security enhancements of SP2 are not worth the trouble of reformatting and starting over. I am still running SP1 with virtually no updates or patches applied to my machine. There are much better ways to lock your machine down...rather than depending on Microsoft to fix bugs and holes in your OS. For one a 30 dollar program called DeepFreeze will prevent almost any virus.....worm....hacker etc you can pick up.....it takes almost no configuring or computer savvy to use it.
Short of a hardware failure you machine is virtually bullet proof as far as security goes. Universities and libraries use it extensively.
Reinstall XP and maybe SP1 if you want and then install Deepfreeze and do youself a favor and save yourself endless hours of disinfecting your computer.
Hope this helps


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Response Number 11
Name: Navyretire
Date: September 5, 2005 at 17:24:03 Pacific
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zero244,

Thanks for the advice and I will look into that Deepfreeze. Even though my geforce USB 2.0 drivers may be conflecting with SP2 USB 2.0 drivers, I am taking no chance and I will leave out SP2. An oh by the way, I do have SP1 with no crashes. shellback


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Response Number 12
Name: suatcini
Date: September 6, 2005 at 02:55:30 Pacific
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Hello.

Do you have a USB DSL modem ? Is this the reason why your DSL is cut off ?

If this is so, before you install SP2, just uninstall USB modem and then re-install your your USB DSL modem drivers after you install SP2.

That should resolve all your DSL problem.

Hope the above helps.

Regards

suatcini


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Response Number 13
Name: cpc2000
Date: September 6, 2005 at 09:04:39 Pacific
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There no bugcheck code and bugcheck parameters. How do we do problem diagnostic?
The root cause maybe faulty ram or faulty device driver. I have to examine the stack trace of your minidump in order to find out the culprit. When Windows crashes with blue screen, it writes a system event 1001 or 1003 and a minidump to the folder \windows\minidump. Check system event 1001 and 1003 and it has the content of the blue screen.

Event ID: 1001
Source: Save Dump
Description:
The computer has rebooted from a bugcheck.The bugcheck was : 0xc000000a (0xe1270188, 0x00000002, 0x00000000, 0x804032100).
Microsoft Windows..... A dump was saved in: .......


Event Source: System Error
Event Category: (102)
Event ID: 1003
Description:
Error code 1000007f, parameter1 0000000d, parameter2 00000000, parameter3 00000000, parameter4 00000000

Control Panel -> Adminstrative Tools -> Event Viewer -> System -> Event 1001/1003. Copy the content and paste it back here

Zip 5 to 6 minidumps to one zip file and attach it at any webspace. Attach the url link here. I will study the dump and find out the culprit.


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Response Number 14
Name: Chuck 2
Date: September 6, 2005 at 11:48:52 Pacific
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shellback--
At least get the following installed to protect
your computer:
Update Rollup 1 for Windows XP is available


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