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Two O/S starting up...help plz

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Name: Viv
Date: April 13, 2006 at 13:30:33 Pacific
OS: XP home
CPU/Ram: 1 GB
Product: Dell
Comment:

Hello all...
I was wondering if someone can help me plz.
Every time I boot up my PC I have the choice of 2 Win XP's. This is annoying, and I would like to get rid of one. But, I am unsure as to how to do it. If someone can plz tell me how to get rid of the one that just has the blank O/S on it, I would appreciate it. The other one that I arrow down to each time has all my stuff on it...the other is just the blank O/S, but I can't even get into it cause it asks me for a password, and I don't have one for it.
So, I am stuck here now...not knowing what to do.
Thanks to anyone that can help me out.

Never enter a battle of wits with an unarmed person...



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Response Number 1
Name: Chuck 2
Date: April 13, 2006 at 13:38:00 Pacific

Response Number 2
Name: Mechanix2Go
Date: April 13, 2006 at 13:47:10 Pacific
Reply:

Right click on 'my computer'
advanced tab
startup options
choose default
uncheck 'disply list'


If at first you don't succeed, you're about average.

M2


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Response Number 3
Name: Sabertooth
Date: April 13, 2006 at 14:40:43 Pacific
Reply:

Right click on 'my computer'
advanced tab
startup options
choose default
uncheck 'disply list'

Don't understand ???


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Response Number 4
Name: trvlr
Date: April 13, 2006 at 21:32:06 Pacific
Reply:

Chuck's M$-KB link gives you all you need to know...

It's not quite the way I the way I do it - but it works...

(I would boot to the preferred version; set it as default; note the folder name etc. for that version - and the unwanted version - all in the boot.ini. Then proceed as in the M$-KB - after the %windir% part...)

End result is the same...


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Response Number 5
Name: Viv
Date: April 13, 2006 at 21:47:20 Pacific
Reply:

Hello again…

I appreciate your help. But, I am still having a difficult time with this.
Chuck2…you told me to go to the Microsoft site, and I did. But it tells me to do this:

**To determine the Windows folder that you want to keep, click Start, click Run, type %windir%, and then click OK. Remember the folder that is opened. For example, the folder may be C:\Windows.

Note This is your "working" Windows folder. Do not delete or remove this folder from the partition.

In Windows Explorer, find the Windows folder that you want to remove.

Important Make sure that this folder is not the folder that you identified as your "working" Windows folder in step 2.**


I don’t know how to find it.
Then, Sabertooth and Mechanix2go told me to do the following…and I did…but I don’t know which one to delete.

**Right click on 'my computer'
advanced tab
startup options
choose default
uncheck 'disply list'**

Here is the Notepad that appeared and I don’t know which is the one that has my O/S that I need and which is just the blank O/S just sitting there.

[boot loader]
timeout=30
default=multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINDOWSC
[operating systems]
multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINDOWSC="Microsoft Windows XP Home Edition" /fastdetect /NoExecute=OptIn
multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINDOWS="Microsoft Windows XP Home Edition" /fastdetect


Please expalin as simply as possible so I don't mess this up.
Any further help would be muchly appreciated.

Viv


Never enter a battle of wits with an unarmed person...


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Response Number 6
Name: trvlr
Date: April 14, 2006 at 00:09:36 Pacific
Reply:

In the M$-KB they tell you type: %windir% in the run box. This opens up a window that lists the entire contents of the folder which is use for the version of XP to which you have booted... The folder name for the current (booted) XP installation is displayed in the "address" bar and may also be shown in the blue band at the top of the windows frame (this depends on whether or not you enabled to "show full path" in folders options; I prefer to enable that option, but not everyone does.)

That is the folder name that will be a part of the line in the default OS to boot in the boot.ini; and also part of a slightly longer line below the [operating systems] header

Thus in your situation;

[boot loader]
timeout=30
default=multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINDOWSC
[operating systems]
multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINDOWSC="Microsoft Windows XP Home Edition" /fastdetect /NoExecute=OptIn
multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINDOWS="Microsoft Windows XP Home Edition" /fastdetect

Your boot ini indicates that currently you boot to an XP version installed in/as “windowsc” (ignore the “ “ I use here – they’re just to highlight specific information…)

Note that this is also the first entry in the boot.ini below [operating systems] header, although it need not be so; it could just as easily be in the second position…

The second entry refers an XP installed as “windows” – and you are not booting that version by default. This the version you wish to lose…?

So - boot to XP installed as “windowsc” - which you already do by default. Then via Explorer locate and delete the folder “windows”; also delete the second line in the boo.ini. i.e. this one:

multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINDOWS="Microsoft Windows XP Home Edition" /fastdetect

Save changes and reboot to verify you are still able to…

Presuming so, empty recycle-bin and defrag the drive to tidy up the partition…

Job Done.

If in doubt, then type the %windir% as advised by the M$-KB; and note the folder name in the address bar area. It will be c:\windowsc.

Then proceed as above...?

Useful... if you're XP is in as fat32, to save a copy of the boot.ini (as is) to a floppy and keep safe. Also save a copy in a seperate folder on the drive ; perhaps create a folder "backups" (no " ") and then copy the boot.ini (as is - unedited) to that backups folder. Then if need-be (i.e. you edit the boot.ini incorrectly) you can always restore the boot.ini as is and start editing it again. You would do the restore of the boot.ini via a '98/ME bootdisk.


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Response Number 7
Name: Mechanix2Go
Date: April 14, 2006 at 00:51:20 Pacific
Reply:

The reason I suggested the 'startup' route is that the typical user is ill-advised to go messing about with boot.ini

The usual result is that nothing works.


If at first you don't succeed, you're about average.

M2


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Response Number 8
Name: trvlr
Date: April 14, 2006 at 01:01:46 Pacific
Reply:

Certainly can echo the startup aspect; often simplifies the boot.ini bit (effectively by-passes it...). I think Viv also wants to lose/delete the folder too; which is where I feel (s)he is uncertain?

The M$-KB is pretty clear (epecially considering "some" M$ how to...); but as always do folks read what is writ and interpret/follow accoringly?


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Response Number 9
Name: Mechanix2Go
Date: April 14, 2006 at 01:34:42 Pacific
Reply:

Hi trvlr,

"The M$-KB is pretty clear"

Compared to their usual fog index of about 7 on the Richter scale.

Yeah Viv may want to lose the 2nd installation. But for most people with, let's say, an 80GB HD, why bother. Just wait until the next time you install from scratch.


If at first you don't succeed, you're about average.

M2


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Response Number 10
Name: trvlr
Date: April 14, 2006 at 02:31:18 Pacific
Reply:

Echo again re' the 80gig. There's so much space on drives these days... it's often less hassle etc. to leave unwanted stuff there - util a rebuild etc.

I have 40Gig with most M$-OS installed, and it's still less than half full - even with the inevitable wide range of assorted utils, data-files etc...

But at least (hopefullly) Viv will have a clearer understanding of how to do what (s)he wanted - incl. removing the unwanted installation "in toto..."

The M$-KB did surprise me with it's unusual clarity and simplicity... So often there are references to references "ad nauseum"; all good (sometimes arcane) stuff but often more than the average user wants...


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Response Number 11
Name: Viv
Date: April 15, 2006 at 02:14:10 Pacific
Reply:

Thank you all for your advice. I did the M$-KB instructions and all is well.
I really appreciate all your help and suggestions.
I hope you all have a nice weekend.
Viv :)

Never enter a battle of wits with an unarmed person...


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Response Number 12
Name: Mechanix2Go
Date: April 15, 2006 at 03:01:33 Pacific
Reply:

Hi Viv,
good work


If at first you don't succeed, you're about average.

M2


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