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Name: spacejunk
Date: December 6, 2008 at 02:24:05 Pacific
OS: XP pro- sp2
CPU/Ram: 3.4 ghz
Product: Microsoft / P4 LGA 774
Comment:

Hey all,

Having a very strange issue while installing windows.

Replaced motherboard recently with a temporary board the cheapest thing i could find Model : J&W- JW-I94GCA2-1333

I diden't format windows and it worked fine with some driver changes, Now i am in the process of formatting and installing windows.

My problem is i get a this error when installing windows :SXS.DLL- Syntax error in manifest or policy file "D:\I386\asms\52\MSFT\WINDWS\NET\DXMRTP.MAN" on line 5.


I swapped out the dvd-rom and it started copying files correctly, but lots of Logo test screens come up for all different devices so i continue and click yes to each of them ... until it gets to the HID compliant mouse Logo test, at this point i loose my mouse and Keyboard, so there is no way to contiunue by clicking yes.

Strange thing is i have tried it about 20 times 15 times it gives the Syntax error at the start and the other 5 it went through to copy the files properly.

The Motherboard worked fine with the old installation of Windows from my old Board, and i'm certain my Hardware is fine and in working order.

Not sure about this new Board though, any thoughts as to whats happening here ?




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Response Number 1
Name: spacejunk
Date: December 6, 2008 at 02:43:43 Pacific
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Also i should mention, this Motherboard has been displaying some odd behavour, for instance no matter what adjustments i make to fan settings within BIOS the CPU fan spins way too fast.

I used Speedfan to adjust it in within windows and it worked, after the format the BIOS settings work until it reaches Windows installation then it spins really fast again.

Up until the point it detects the harwarde during the installation process and goes back to BIOS fan settings.

Also when using my old Windows installation with this Board the Mouse would cut out at the Log in screen, i had to unplug and re-plug just to get into Windows for the first time, after that it was fine.

So it looks like the Hardware components on this Baord are very incompatible or something of that nature.


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Response Number 2
Name: OtheHill
Date: December 6, 2008 at 07:01:29 Pacific
Reply:

Have a look at the link below.

http://www.softwaretipsandtricks.co...


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Response Number 3
Name: spacejunk
Date: December 6, 2008 at 10:53:36 Pacific
Reply:

This is the most perplexing issue i have encountered, really doesen't make much sense.

These are my latest observations:

I have tested with 2 different cd/dvd rom's and 2 different Windows discs, but still the problems persists ... i'm sure i can rule out data corruption and/or disc reading issues now.

Even if i was to solve the error's it still would not explain the numerous Logo tests throughout the installation, it's apparent that most of the components on this board are not Logo tested. I have built quite a few machines and never had a Logo test during installation, not to mention 10 or more in the first 6 minutes.

Also the loss of all USB devices when Windows installation pics up on the hardware and displays it as not been Logo tested.

Notes:

This Board is extremely dodgy ... the F- panel does not even accomodate case speaker or Power-led (lacks pins), only 2 of the 4 sata slots are accessable even with a small single slot Graphics solution (8800gt) this makes me feel comfortable to assume this Motherboard is causing most, if not all of the problems i am seeing here.

I will continue to tinker with it and just hope i get lucky.


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Response Number 4
Name: OtheHill
Date: December 6, 2008 at 11:36:20 Pacific
Reply:

What do you mean by Logo tested? Certified to work with?

Is this motherboard supposedly NEW?


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Response Number 5
Name: worldlibrary
Date: December 6, 2008 at 18:49:50 Pacific
Reply:

Did the board come with a cd?

Sounds like it may be missing a few chipset drivers.


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Response Number 6
Name: spacejunk
Date: December 6, 2008 at 22:43:11 Pacific
Reply:

@Othehill

The Board in question is my friends, as far as i know it is new and never been used. But there was no Manual, Software or Accessories.

He supposedly bought it for $30 aud, and looks to be a very lousy Board.

This is the Logo test message i am recieving when windows installs devices:

Hardware Installation

The Software you are installing for this Hardware:


Standard Universal PCI to USB Host Controller


Has not passed Windows Logo testing to varify compatibility with Windows XP

Continuing installation of this Software may impair or distabilize the correct operation of your system either immediately or in the future. Microsoft strongly recommends you stop this Installaion now and contact the Hardware vendor for software that has passed Windows Logo Testing.

Do you want to continue installing the Software for this Hardware ?


-------------
YES / NO
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Response Number 7
Name: spacejunk
Date: December 6, 2008 at 23:00:02 Pacific
Reply:

@WorldLibrary

The Motherboard diden't come with a Driver disc.

However that has nothing to do with my problem, since the Hardrive has been Formatted and the problems here are during Windows installation in which case the driver disc is not applicable.
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I have tried sending an Email to the Technical support group of the Motherboard manafacturer ... but it returned -Unknown adress - User Unknown - Rejecting'

As a last resort i will reseat and/or swap out some Ram Modules, although they were 100 percent working prior to Format. Its certain they won't have any effect on the Logo Test messages i am seeing .. so it really is fruitless to try it.



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Response Number 8
Name: OtheHill
Date: December 7, 2008 at 08:41:46 Pacific
Reply:

All those messages mean is that the vendor of the board has not gone through the process of certifying the drivers. I think that requires payment to MSoft.

The lack of certification by itself doesn't mean the drivers are no good.

Look at things like BIOS settings. The RAM you mentioned may have aggressive timings by default. If so, you need to manually adjust them.

Now, back to the hardware devices. You should be able to download ALL the drivers for that board along with the manual.

The proper method when getting the installing messages is to hit escape and bypass that installation. WinXP is trying to apply the bast driver it has available. That may or may not be good.

Best to use the drivers supplied by the vendor instead. If you can't stop WinXP from installing then you can still apply the correct drivers. That should be done as soon as possible. If your WinXP CD doesn't have the latest service pack integrated the disk may be as much as 8 years behind the current hardware. Even with SP3 there is hardware WinXP can't properly configure. That is why the vendors supply drivers.

You expect too much from Windows.


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Response Number 9
Name: spacejunk
Date: December 7, 2008 at 09:37:07 Pacific
Reply:

@OtheHill

So what you're saying is my Slipstreamed sp2 XP Disc is too old for this 3 year old Motherboard and lacks the most primitive drivers like USB 2.0 and HID compliant mouse?


And you don't actually know why i am getting Logo test Failure on almost every component on the Motherboard ?

Even a Normal OEM 6 year old XP disc can install on current hardware with no problems ... and not disable vital components neccessary to complete the installation of windows.

Besides not actually paying attention to the problem at hand, that information was totally useless.

Please refrain from posting more Giberish into this thread, thanks.


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Response Number 10
Name: OtheHill
Date: December 7, 2008 at 12:04:24 Pacific
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Yes, that is exactly what I am saying. I couldn't find a link to the model you posted originally but the 1333 indicates the board is running a recent Intel chipset.

SP2 was released in August 2004. The chipset and probably many other components were not in production then. How can you expect WinXP SP2 to configure the hardware?

If you download SIW.exe standalone version you should be able to identify the chipset, and other hardware in order to get the proper drivers.

In addition to all that your slipstreamed CD or drive may not be up to snuff. The fact that you swapped out the drive and got different results could indicate a disk that is marginal.

As far as my information being totally useless that may be true. If you don't know what to do with it then it is useless to you.

Rant some more and see where that gets you.


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Response Number 11
Name: spacejunk
Date: December 10, 2008 at 02:48:26 Pacific
Reply:

@Othehill

I do appologise for my negative comments in my last post, was one of those (Pull your hair out) days for me.

I realise that you were only trying to help me ... i just got the impression that you were spoon feeding me information i already know, and were insinuating i was Neophyte to expect this to work.

The (You expect too much from Windows) part really bugged me, not exactly sure if it was a derogatory comment, but it felt like it.

At any rate, no hard feelings mate. :)

PS: i'm throwing that Board in the trash, but only after i beat it with a stick a few times and cook the Capacitors until they scream. :P


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Response Number 12
Name: OtheHill
Date: December 10, 2008 at 05:33:16 Pacific
Reply:

spacejunk

You are partially correct in you assessment. I usually take the course that the poster is a newby and try to feel them out by making suggestions and waiting for a reply. That usually shows up skill levels and then the subsequent responses can be more technical. Sometimes it is hard to get a handle on that skill level. Your statement indicated to me that you felt WinXPsp2 should be able to install any necessary hardware drivers. That was the basis of my comment.

Sounds like a misunderstanding all the way around. Also sounds like a really sh*tty board with no driver disk to boot. When Google can't produce a single hit other than your post then you know you have an obscure piece of hardware.

Well anyway no hard feelings here.

BTW, that board is probably a re-branded board. If you haven't destroyed it yet you may be able to find the maker by tracking any numbers on it. Depends on your tolerance levels.


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