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Name: Smith John
Date: March 24, 2005 at 10:30:37 Pacific
OS: Windows XP
CPU/Ram: Athlon 64 3200+ / 1GB
Comment:

Does anyone have any experience with the system backup utility called RestoreIt! ? Is it known as a good or bad backup program?



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Response Number 1
Name: trdj
Date: March 24, 2005 at 10:40:32 Pacific
Reply:

what is the cost and proposed use? are you in the market for some software?

I don't have any info on the program you are asking about, but I have used and recommend the following for the appropriate uses:

Norton Ghost (Home Use) - allows you to create a backup image to CD and restore entirely from CD only much like HP/Dell OS System Restore CDs. In fact E-Machines are now using Ghost Images for their restore CDs. Can be purchased for $14 OEM @ www.newegg.com

Veritas Backup Exec (Commercial/Business Use) - The ONLY program to use in my opinion.. Veritas has some very slick options for copying open/in-use files and with the appropriate tape store device can make your business backups VERY efficient. Restoring is very easy too! Can be purchased at New Egg, but comes in much more expensive at $499.

There's my 2 cents worth for Backup/Restore programs... Anything cheaper than the $14 for Ghost and you might as well use the regular Windows backup utility... IMHO.

Thanks.


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Response Number 2
Name: Smith John
Date: March 24, 2005 at 11:11:55 Pacific
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Actually, RestoreIt! (by Farstone) came bundled, along with a lot of other software, with my MSI 6600gt video card. I tried installing it once and I think it caused some problems on my system. Now I'm wondering whether to give it another try, and wanted to know about its reputation. I had the impression that it is a good program, but I'm not sure anymore.

I'm looking to backup my home computer. I'm a intermediate-advanced computer user, but I have no experience with backup utilities. I wonder, is the Windows backup utility any good? Can it backup to DVD, does it compress files, and is it overall a good option?

I also have Nero Express that came with my DVD burner, and I think it has a backup option. what do you think of that?

Basically I'm looking for a good, easy to use, hassle-free backup utility, and would prefer to use one that I already have, if possible.


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Response Number 3
Name: trdj
Date: March 24, 2005 at 13:35:02 Pacific
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If you think your backup file will remain under 5 Gigs (being the limitation of DVD) and you have a startup process that enables writing to your DVD on the fly then backing up to DVD may be an option though I have never tried it. The problem with using XP's defualt burn to CD/DVD is that it writes the files to a temp holding spot until you initiate writing them to CD/DVD and since this temp spot is on the HD it does no good as a backup solution. For CD burners there were many options for writing to the CD on the fly or "drag and drop" however I not familiar w/ DVD burning a whole lot to know if this same thing applies to DVD. There is the obvious route of using the windows backup to the local drive and manually burning it later, but I think that at some point you will max the file size that is capable of burning to DVD, being the "intermediate-advanced" user (probably have lots of files to backup).

For this reason I think that going w/ Ghost would be an inexspensive good option... also if you have a 2nd drive you can back up your files to that... the most common occurence for loss of data is 1) OS corruption (software) and then 2) HD failure (hardware)... keeping your data files on a drive OTHER than the OS goes a long way in preventing the first from being a cause of lost data (even at that there are many recovery programs that will get your files despite the crippled OS). Other options that require little/no manual effort but involve cost and setup may be to raid some disks. Do a Mirrored Raid between 2 HD's... however if your OS & Data are both on this raid array, then you are back to the possibility of your OS crashing.

Lots of options exist.. if you give me some ideas of cost vs. concern (how much do your really want to fail safe your data loss) I can give you some more detailed options. Any data backup is better than nothing though!!! :-D

Hope that helps!

Michael


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Response Number 4
Name: OtheHill
Date: March 24, 2005 at 14:01:25 Pacific
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Ghost will span multiple disks and you can use just about any media. I have images of partitions that span 5 CDRs. I also have spanned more than one DVDR. This is with Ghost 8. Earlier versions may not perform the same. Ghost 9 will also perform incremenal backups. This is similar to how the Veritas software works. Not to say they are equal. Veritas is a very robust program that is intended for business use. I recommend backing up to removable media like DVDR or CDR. Backing up to a second HD is OK but if a PSU goes out it can take eveything with it. Also the backup drive is subject to the same vulnerabilities as the primary drives in your system. Offsite backup is a very good way but not cost effective for the home user. I keep my backup business files in a fire resistant hiding place.


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Response Number 5
Name: Smith John
Date: March 24, 2005 at 14:31:19 Pacific
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Thank you for your replies, Michael.

This is a brand new computer, which will be used for general family use (word processing, spreadsheets, internet, email, and some gaming). As you know, the games are by far the most space-consuming programs. By the time I finish installing all the system utilities and other general programs, it will probably use up about 3-6 GB of my 200GB hard drive. (I have a single SATA hard drive) The games will probably take up 10-20+ Gigs and I have more that I will eventually install.

There is no mission-critical information on this computer; accordingly I don't want to spend more money on software if I don't have to. I will inevitably keep more than one copy of the important files (mainly homework). The backup is basically to safeguard those files, the personalized settings, and the drivers, utilities, etc. If, in the event of a system disaster, I could clean install the OS and then use the backup to restore as much of the previous settings and utilities as possible I would be satisfied. The games are not as important to back up. This way I would avoid having to reinstall and redownload a whole bunch of drivers and software and reconfigure the system.


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Response Number 6
Name: Smith John
Date: March 24, 2005 at 19:44:30 Pacific
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Oh, thanks for your reply, OtheHill. I hadn't seen your post.

It's good to know that Ghost can span multiple disks. It sounds like you do some serious backup up, as would be expected for important (business) data, and such. However, I don't need that kind of protection. For the mostpart, this computer will not have mission-critical data; the backup is mainly a convenience for recovering more quickly. And in any case, I will still be backing up my most important files to my USB key, just to have another copy with me, and also to be able to work on them when I'm not home.


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Response Number 7
Name: OtheHill
Date: March 24, 2005 at 20:59:01 Pacific
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The best part about Ghost is this. Get your OS installed and patched on the primary partition. Install your programs on another partition. Tweak averything and then create an image of the primary partition. Now, when things get crapped up simply restore from that image in just a few minutes. If you keep the images up to date you may now need to reinstall anything. The programs will all run fine, unlike when you reinstall the OS and need to reinstall all the programs. That can take a whole weekend. Ghost is cheap. CDRs are cheap. Time is irreplacable.


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Response Number 8
Name: Smith John
Date: March 26, 2005 at 12:13:08 Pacific
Reply:

Thanks for your input OtheHill. I'll certainly consider Ghost.

If anyone has anything else to add, please continue to do so.

Thank you.


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Response Number 9
Name: OtheHill
Date: March 26, 2005 at 12:20:58 Pacific
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Ghost isn't the only software that will do this but usually IMO the shareware/freeware are more difficult to use. So if the cost isn't much Go for the commercial product. Support is usually better too. Newegg.com has Ghost 2003 OEM for $15. This is one version back from the latest. It is what I use. Look here: http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=32-108-190&depa=6


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Response Number 10
Name: Smith John
Date: March 26, 2005 at 16:17:22 Pacific
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Unfortunately, I can't shop at newegg because I live in Canada. They don't ship internationally or even to Canada. I think that also applies to download purchases, but I'm not 100% sure of that.

If you know of any good freeware backup utilities, I would be interested to know about them.


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Response Number 11
Name: OtheHill
Date: March 26, 2005 at 17:15:00 Pacific
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Just Google for it. I bought mine last year and paid $15. Others may be able to help with freeware. I suggest you make a new thread to ask about free backup imaging software.


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Response Number 12
Name: Smith John
Date: March 26, 2005 at 17:53:23 Pacific
Reply:

You bought it for $15 Canadian?


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Response Number 13
Name: OtheHill
Date: March 26, 2005 at 18:06:41 Pacific
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$15 US. I bought Norton Systemworks Pro 2003 for $15 US. Ghost is part of that suite.


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Response Number 14
Name: Smith John
Date: March 26, 2005 at 18:09:17 Pacific
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Wow, that sounds like you got a great deal.


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Response Number 15
Name: OtheHill
Date: March 26, 2005 at 18:29:51 Pacific
Reply:

Look here:
http://www.qualityinks.com/
Or here:
http://www.buycheapsoftware.com/symantec_products~subcategory~61.asp



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Response Number 16
Name: Smith John
Date: March 26, 2005 at 18:41:14 Pacific
Reply:

Thanks for the links, OtheHill. Looks like they have some interesting offers.


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Response Number 17
Name: jonyrotten
Date: April 18, 2005 at 11:11:05 Pacific
Reply:

systemworks 2005 ghost is a "within windows" image, and i'm assuming will have the same problems as others like it of not catching locked or in use files. that's what made the DOS based ghost great in my opinion.

comments please?


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