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Sudden increase of unmovable files in defrag

November 26, 2010 at 12:35:49
Specs: Windows XP Pro, 1272 MB RAM

Hi, this may seem silly to some of you, but it is worrying me. (I have had enough troubles that the least little thing makes me worry.)
The main problem: when I defragmented earlier today, I noticed that the number of unmovable files decreased dramatically. Usually there are two green strips near the beginning of the bar. Today those were still there, but there were also four thick strips near the end of the bar.
I know they are primarily page files, but it still worries me.

Also happening today, to give the full picture. I checked my plugins and found that adobe acrobat was outdated. I tried to update it, and it said I needed another plugin to display the page - one unknown to firefox. The file that was downloaded is named gp.ixi.
In the end, I reinstall the adobe plugin using the instructions on the adobe site. That lead to the adobe DRM trying to download and install reader X, which did not install. It said that I needed to stop Program Manager to install it. The only open program at that moment was Adobe DRM, so I cancelled out.

I tried to defragment after that, which is when I noticed the strange extra green files.

I tried to download and use the Microsoft Fixit tool. It made me have to install the .Net framework. After I installed that I tried to run the tool and it gave me the message "Troubleshooter doesn't apply to this computer."

So yeah, I think something is wrong, but I am not sure what. I also did notice that the computer started up a little differently this morning, but there are no new programs installed. I have run a virus scan, but have no yet run Malwarebytes Anti Malware.

Does anyone have any suggestions?


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#1
November 26, 2010 at 12:45:04

Defrag. likely to work better when you are in Safe-Mode.
Also,
Most Virus and Spyware scans are likely to work better in Windows Safe-Mode.

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#2
November 26, 2010 at 13:22:13

It may be nothing. Some apps may be locking the files. Booted to a live bartsPE may help along with trying safe mode command prompt.

Kind of hard to tell. If you didn't install any programs you may have some issue. Who knows what a rootkit may do. While one might be able to find a virus a rootkit is impossible to be found.

If you are worried then reload the entire OS from known clean disks and run a baseline at that point. It is the only known for sure way to diag this stuff.

Why did it take me over a year to phone in a problem to ATT?


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#3
November 26, 2010 at 13:30:05

I tried running defragger in safe mode. It seemed to work, but when I analyzed in regular mode, the spots the green files normally are, one was missing and the other thinner, while the other four are still there.
Yeah, I have no idea. Is there any way to move "unmovable" files? When does Windows regenerate page files?

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#4
November 26, 2010 at 13:32:51

Try clearing all the temp files and cookie before running defrag. Use Ccleaner slim for that purpose. Get it at the link below.

http://www.piriform.com/ccleaner/bu...

I am about ready to chuck Adobe reader. Seems like every other day there is another update. I have read these are security patches so you may want to run a scan. There are freeware .pdf utilities that are not so bloated.


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#5
November 26, 2010 at 13:56:03

Page files, MFT etc can vary in size and postition. They show as immovable - I doubt there is a problem.

Foxit PDF Reader can do everything that Adobe Acrobat can do and is a whole lot lighter.

How to know you are getting old 3:
You start converting your age to hexadecimal


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#6
November 26, 2010 at 15:27:53

I have CCleaner installed, the full version. I actually ran it last night before shutting down, though I do not have it doing all it could do. I will make sure to run it again before trying to defrag again.
I, too, am about ready to chuck Adobe Reader. I downloaded Foxit the other day, and am thisclose to installing it and ridding myself of Adobe. I was not going to...until today.
My virus scanner says it has a rootkit scan as part of the scan I will give that a go, and there is a sysinternals rootkit detector - I could see if one of them says anything. I also need to update Windows, as thanks to a full workload it has been put off for this month.
So far, the computer seems to be working fine, apart from Adobe wanting me to shut down the 'Program manager' - whatever that was - while updating. Started up fine, seems to be running fine, so I have no clue. I just know I have been told before that unmovable files should come at the beginning of the defragmenter bar.

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#7
November 26, 2010 at 18:43:24

No, not all unmovable files will be at the beginning of the defrag bar, so don't lose any sleep about that,

How to know you are getting old 3:
You start converting your age to hexadecimal


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#8
November 28, 2010 at 10:12:45

Thanks for the reassurance Derek, I was worried since it had never happened before and since this has been the year of computer problems, I figured it meant something else had gone wrong.

As for Adobe - it has just been uninstalled and Foxit reader put in its place. I'm sick of the strange updates refusing to work. Thanks for the help, guys.


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#9
November 28, 2010 at 11:24:59

Thanks for taking the trouble to pop back and let us know - appreciated.

How to know you are getting old 4:
You can't find anything you like on "the wireless"


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