SPan backup across multiple DVDs

June 25, 2009 at 05:15:15
Specs: Windows XP, 2Gb
I have Ghost 2003, which seems to create separate 2Gb files for an entire 40Gb backup.
How do I spread this across multiple DVDs?
Is it is asimple as copying each individual file to the DVD. Will Ghost pick these up if I have to restore from the DVDs?
I have an external USB hard drive but the DVDs are as a backup of the backup in case I lose the laptop AND external hard drive (theft, fire, etc.) and will be kept elsewhere.

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#1
June 25, 2009 at 06:36:47
Have you read the User Manual?

i_Xp/VistaUser


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#2
June 25, 2009 at 06:41:02
I know you can do it in Ghost 2003 directly but that's a separate backup.
I want to backup to USB external and then copy these files to the DVDs.
If I back up to external and then backup to DVDs that's doing it twice.

At present these are size limited files of 2Gb - I guess I could just copy 2 each to a DVD?


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#3
June 25, 2009 at 07:03:16
Why are you making it harder than necessary? If you have Ghost 2003.793 you can span multiple CDR/DVDR. DVDR disks typically will end up with about 6.5GB of normally compressed files on them.

If you want multiple copies then just duplicate the disks as many times as needed.

IMO optical disks are the most secure. You can restore by simply booting directly to the first disk of a backup set. What could be easier? Why mess around with the USB drive at all?

One thing you may not be aware of is that your burner must be recognized by model or you can't span disks. Use Symantec update for the latest drives.

2GB is a file size limitation imposed by FAT16 file system. Perhaps that is why you are getting that size.


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#4
June 25, 2009 at 07:06:30
I don't have a DVD burner on my laptop :)
I was going to use someone else's laptop to plug the USB device over to and copy.

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#5
June 25, 2009 at 07:22:24
Read This <<< click

"...The 2GB file size limitation is based on DOS, not Ghost"

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#6
June 25, 2009 at 07:27:18
Sounds like I can just copy the 2Gb images over to DVDs in order. I imagine 2x2Gb spans per DVD.

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#7
June 25, 2009 at 07:31:36
... fat32 = 4GB limit ....x1 DVD

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#8
June 25, 2009 at 07:33:17
Each DVD has 4.7Gb limit written on it ?
The 2Gb is actually 2.097 something

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#9
June 25, 2009 at 07:38:55
... ghost compression (high) option

... I had always used compression and never had any problems

... you'd be surprised by how much ((((((((())))))))) !!

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#10
June 25, 2009 at 09:21:10
jack, you can send the image to another computer through a mapped drive or to another computer on your network.

The compression amount is inversely proportional to the time you want it to take. I have always used the default.

Keep in mind it is a waste of time to image files like MP3, jpg and other file types that are already in a compressed format.

Better to just COPY them to disk.

jack, consider getting an external DVD burner. Be sure of your version of Ghost 2003. Right click on help when Ghost is open to see the version. Earlier versions have issues with spanning and especially SATA drives.


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#11
June 25, 2009 at 09:50:31
Well...yes but that defeats the point of a DVD backup held in a separate location. If someone were to steal computers in a a household, they'd take all of them and my external USB drive :)

Won't 2 x 2.097Gb span files fit on a 4.7Gb disc?


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#12
June 25, 2009 at 10:01:24
"...Won't 2 x 2.097Gb span files fit on a 4.7Gb disc?..."


sure it will ... use the ghost compression option aswell



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#13
June 25, 2009 at 11:11:51
I won't argue with you about it. DVDs can be kept in 10 different locations. You indicated that you don't have burning capability. I gave you three possible solutions.

I don't quite understand how you are making the 2GB files and how they would be used to restore a continuous backup.

BTW, DVDR only actually holds 4.4GB. As mavis has pointed out compression will allow more data than that.

Is your OS partition less than 2GB of actual data?

Looking back at your prior posts it appears you are simply copying folders. You don't need Ghost or any other imaging program to do that.

Perhaps you don't understand the concept of imaging a partition/drive.


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#14
June 25, 2009 at 12:35:01
Huh? Who said I was copying folders?
I am creating an image of the hard drive every 2 weeks.
It is a 50Gb hard drive with say 30Gb of data. Ghost creates an image of this but because of DOS it splits it into 2Gb portions/spans. I just use the normal compression because it takes too long otherwise.
If the spans are used by ghost to restore from then I can just copy them onto sequential DVDs.
Yes, I could just have the DVD backup as you mentioned but I would keep this "off site" as it were as a last resort backup. The USB external is in case of critical errors or hard drive failure so I can restore form it pretty quickly.

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#15
June 25, 2009 at 13:13:37
Jack I commend you for having 2 backups with one of them at a seperate location. A lot of people have come here that don't do backups at all and have learned the hard way how important they are to do.

As for your problem, I don't quite understand how FAT16 is coming into the picture. There may be an option in Ghost for selecting the size of each backup file. I use Macrium Reflect, and there is an option there for that, so I assume that it's the same for Ghost.

If the filenames of the 2GB backup files are sequential (ending in say 00, 01, 02, etc.) then I would think it would be possible to just copy each individual file to seperate DVDs.

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#16
June 25, 2009 at 13:48:03
So to clarify then, you are using the DOS mode of Ghost 2003 to backup to an external hard drive and you end up with 15/2GB files?

If you were to use the Windows version of Ghost 2003 you would end up with one file for each partition or the entire drive, depending on what options you selected.

If you feel that the system you are using is good for you then I guess you should continue.

As I mentioned earlier you could write directly to DVDR if you had that capability.

If you elect to continue as you are you might want to look into Acronis true image 2009. That program has the ability to perform an incremental backup. That would backup ONLY the differences from the last full backup.

You can find it at the link below. If you want you can download a FULL trial version directly from acronis. They charge more for their products than the resellers do so I recommend buying it elsewhere.

There appears to be slight differences in the listed products. Review before buying.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...


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#17
June 25, 2009 at 13:53:57
Jack

You may want to consider using 2 or 3 partitions on your hard drive. That way you may not need to backup each of them at those intervals. Installed programs don't change that often, for instance. Look at the link below for ideas on partitioning strategies.

http://partition.radified.com/

Many other useful items on the Radified.com site, including Ghost.


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#18
June 25, 2009 at 14:34:42
All good suggestions thanks.
With incremental backups, what happens if you defrag halfway through the week and then you backup?
It has to be a DOS backup for 2Gb files doesn't it? If the hard drive went down, DOS would be the only way of reinstalling. The Ghost2003 program runs on a boot CD in dos.

Now, if I had a program that could create 1x 30Gb file, how would that be spanned across many DVDs? Use something like winzip?
Maybe my next backup, I just backup to the DVDs first and then copy all the DVD files to the external hard drive?


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#19
June 25, 2009 at 14:45:21
Now I understand how FAT16 is in the picture.

"Maybe my next backup, I just backup to the DVDs first and then copy all the DVD files to the external hard drive?"

This is probably what I would do.

WinSimple Software
CompTIA A+ Certified


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#20
June 25, 2009 at 14:51:12
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Now I understand how FAT16 is in the picture.

"Maybe my next backup, I just backup to the DVDs first and then copy all the DVD files to the external hard drive?"

This is probably what I would do.

WinSimple Software
CompTIA A+ Certified
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Actually, sorry I forgot I couldn't do that as I don't have a DVD burner on my laptop, need another laptop in the house :)
Maybe I'll buy an external one.


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#21
June 25, 2009 at 16:21:40
Good idea.

WinSimple Software
CompTIA A+ Certified


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#22
June 25, 2009 at 17:24:56
Have a look at the link below. Newegg.com is the BEST online vendor around.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...


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