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Duron 1.344Mhz
640 Megs of RAM
30+60 gig WD hard drives
Gigabyte GA-7IXEH Motherboard
Sound Blaster Live! 5.1
Sound Blaster AWE 64
ATI Radeon 7500
NetGear 10/100 Nic(I've loaded all of the newest MS signed drivers from all of the manufacturers for this hardware and have flashed to BIOS to the newest revision)
This is a fresh load of XP and Office XP. My boot time was 432 seconds. Following suggestions on this board, I've decreased it to 322 seconds. Obviously this is still VERY slow.
Oddities: After POST, I get a segmented white bar at the bottom of the screen that moves across ala Win2k for about 15 seconds. Next, I get the graphical WinXP screen for about 30 seconds. Next I get a black screen for about 240 seconds until finally I get the XP welcome screen. Both the segmented bar and the black screen are new to me in XP.
I've run Bootvis several times. The optimization did nothing for me. After moving the page file to the 60gig (media storage) drive, disabling the service for Background intelligent transfer, and defragging, My total boot time was cut to the aforementioned 322 seconds.
The trace file from Bootvis shows a Registry+Pagefile time of 215 seconds and a login+Service of 66 seconds. These are VERY high figures. My CPU utilization and Disk utilization seem to be under control.
The trace file binary can be downloaded via FTP at 66.188.246.89 l/p trace/trace. The file is about 55meg though so be forewarned.
I'm about at my wits end with this problem so any help would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks much,
Ryan
Well when worse comes to worse, reinstall windows and see if that works. I suspect a problem with your cpu. I never trusted durons and celerons. They always create the strangest problems.
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Thanks for the reply.
This is happening after a fresh load. I find it hard to fathom that the CPU could be the source of the problem as once I'm able to utilize the desktop, I can encode audio/video, use photoshop and illustrator, play DVDs, do anything without problems, and everything is quite snappy. It seems that the pagefile/registry initialization and logon/service init are at the root of the problem.
What is causing this immense lag is the unknown. If someone with lots of experience would be willing to download the previously mentioned trace.bin from Bootvis and analyze it, that would be most helpful.
Ryan
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I have a Cable connection. I can renew DHCP and it is fast. Also, before I reinstalled, I had the same nic, cable, and cable modem and did not have this problem. The nic driver is supplied by microsoft for the NetGear FA311 so it is the same driver I had previously been using.
"Ryan, why did you reinstall?"
I reinstalled as I was previously just running XP off of the 60gig but had an extra 30 that I wanted to use as my "system" drive. XP had been running for about a year and I felt that it was time to wipe the slate clean.
(If it ain't broke, don't fix it)
DOH!
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that's odd...my bootup time is 44 seconds, and that's after every single program has loaded (antivirus, firewall, outlook express, etc)
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I am not sure if this will help, but I saved the
following text from another reply to another post:Slow startup with DSL:
I had the same problem and what I did was goto network connection->your isp connection->properties->advanced and then click on "Allow other network users to connect..."
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WinXP tries to obtain a new lease from DNS servers during bootup.
Manually performing an IP udate is generally quick, however, during the boot process it takes longer.
Though you may save some time by updating your NIC card drivers to the actual Netgear drivers instead of using Microsoft's generic drivers. They can be found at:
ftp://downloads.netgear.com/files/netgear1/F31XV18.zip
These are the latest drivers for the FA311/312 NIC card (version 1.8)
You can also edit the registry so that Windows XP does not try to obtain a new lease on the IP address at start up.
Any questions? Please email me.
Best regards,Rick
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I don't see that syntax as an available option in WinXP. This is the screen that has the firewall option and mine is off at this time.
I've looked at MSCONFIG and have disabled services that I know I won't be using and have seen minimal effect on my Bootvis time; less than 1 second.
Does anyone know why it would take so long for my pagefile/registry init?
Ryan
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Ryan,
I would not follow the post that Chuck has added.
Doing so will allow anyone to connect to your computer on ports: 135, 135, and 139 for NetBIOS connections.
I would also recommend a firewall such as Kerio Personal Firewall and ZoneAlarm running back to back.
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Try this:
Edit your boot.ini located on your root dir. It may be hidden so you will have to change the properties to make it visible.
Change "timeout = 30" to "timeout = 0"Should resemble:
[boot loader]
timeout = 0
default = multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINDOWS[operating systems]
multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINDOWS = "Microsoft Windows XP Professional" /fastdetect
Best regards,
Rick
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Thanks for giving this problem some attention everyone.
I received and email that said to try removing memory and see if that makes a difference. This had no effect.
Rick - IP leases come from DHCP servers, not DNS. DNS servers responibility is to resolve ip addresses to host names. Instead of editing the registry, I gave myself a static IP and this made no difference. Also, no NetGear drivers exist that are specifically for the FA311 except for the ones that ship with XP. http://www.netgear.com/support_xp.asp
Rick - Also, I totally agree about not opening up those ports, not a very good idea...
I had previously edited my boot.ini file and the time is 0 for the default load.
Thanks for the help thus far, hopefully we can get through this.
Again, I would like if someone familiar with Bootvis would download and analyze my trace. I think this would allow for a more efficient diagnosis.
Ryan
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Just a thought, i may be wrong. I was running a SCSI card and an IDE controller on my XP system. When both were activated, it took ages to boot, just like what you are saying. Remove one and i got it to boot really quickly. This was with all the latest drivers. I guess it was a motherboard / win xp problem, since it did not happen when i was running 98SE.
Can i suggest that you remover all hardware and see if the problem still occurs, if it does then i dont know, if it doesnt then go through the hardware adding it one by one to see what it could be causing a problem.
Im running an NVIDIA chipset.
Hope this helps.
Athlon 1700
Asus A7N266-C
256Mb DDR.
Win XP Pro.
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I had Xp pro running on my 20 gig drive and the boot time was about 60 seconds.. after tweaking it abit in MS config i got it down to 52 ..A few months ago i bought a new drive so i decided to experiment with partitions...So i set up a 5 gig partition for the operating system (XP pro) a 7 gig partition for aload of music videos , music etc ,,,a 5 gig partition for 'my documents'(definate boot time saver) and the rest was my spare drive for what ever extra i needed to store..now incredibly my boot time has dropped down to the 30 seconds promised by MS..try it.if it does'nt work for you maybe you should give your hardware a look over .Could be your power unit in need of a good clean for warm up or a similarly related problem.Email me on webmaster@mjsim.co.uk if you have any luck!! :')
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P.s I run windows XP pro with all the latest updates /a office xp/microsoft works/a bunch of other crap on start up...specs(2x20gig drives ,xp lives on 5 gig partition with apps drivers etc.set to active,,NTFS,1000mhz celeron processor,265 megs of ram,Broadband internet connection through lan.two messengers load on start up with norton anti virus corporate edition,fully functional Puter after 32 seconds of boot time .from power on.
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For anyone who wants to look at it, I also put up "system.doc" for download. This file is the output from pcpitstop.com and it shows performance specs. FTP site info is above.
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I see there are alot of things that cause Xp to slow down on boot! Mine was a tv card. Maybe your video card. Can you try another video card?
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