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Simple Question about buying XP

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Name: mrmatt
Date: September 22, 2009 at 10:26:48 Pacific
OS: Windows XP
Subcategory: General
Comment:

Hi,

Am just finishing up a build of a computer, and was wondering what XP to purchase. Was looking at Home ed. ( Dont need anything high power or anything, & have it on other home computers and am happy with it. & hate Vista)

Is this what I need?


http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...


I thought I read someplace for some XP discs you only get 1 chance to load, others you get more chances.

Also with some you can get phone support, others not.

How do I know if the above product has these compliments?

Thanks!

Matt

Also what is the diff between 32bit vs 64 bit - should I be concerned about that too?

Thanks!

Matt



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Response Number 1
Name: wanderer
Date: September 22, 2009 at 10:36:23 Pacific
Reply:

You aren't an OEM so that version technically isn't for you.
note the disclaimer below:

Disclaimer: Use of this OEM System Builder Channel software is subject to the terms of the Microsoft OEM System Builder License. This software is intended for pre-installation on a new personal computer for resale. This OEM System Builder Channel software requires the assembler to provide end user support for the Windows

this would be more what you are looking for
http://www.nextag.com/Microsoft-Cor...

"some XP discs you only get 1 chance to load, others you get more chances."

Never heard or ever encounted such a thing. Does not exist.

"Also with some you can get phone support, others not."

You would get phone support if you purchases a OEM product which means you bought a pc from a OEM and it came with XP. The OEM would provide the support.

Building your own pc and buying retail means you are your own support.


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Response Number 2
Name: mrmatt
Date: September 22, 2009 at 12:55:24 Pacific
Reply:

Thanks for taking the time to reply,

If I come across the article gain - or whatever it was I saw on the internet regarding loading only 1x chance, I'll pass it on.

Also besides me, my support would be you! Thanks!!

M


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Response Number 3
Name: OtheHill
Date: September 22, 2009 at 13:08:28 Pacific
Reply:

Technically MSoft has had a policy in place that states the OEM versions of WinXP are to be purchased with major components and are supposed to stay linked to those components for life.

MSoft has not enforced that policy for years. When Vista first came out MSoft tried to tighten up the licensing but backed of after strong opposition from the computing community.

So, as a practicality, you can install the version you linked on a single computer as reinstall it on that same computer as many times as needed. However, changes in the hardware can cause you to re-register the installation.

To my knowledge, the only WinXP versions currently for sale are of the type you linked. IMO you can use that particular item.

Just don't try to use it as an upgrade disk.

Why are you buying WinXP at this late date? In a month Windows 7 will be for sale. I recommend that is the OS to use. There are offers for versions of Vista with a free upgrade to Windows 7. You would be better off to buy one of those.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...


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Response Number 4
Name: mrmatt
Date: September 22, 2009 at 17:39:15 Pacific
Reply:


Been very happy with XP no complaints whatsoever, though I only read little about Win7. Heard that it was faster ( my OS seems fast enough, safer....etc but may have a hard time running some older programs and games.

I will reconsider.

Can you please comment on the XP that was suggested by Wanderer in his reply above? Is one preferred over the other in my case? (no pun intended!).

Again though, will consider about the Vista &7. Am now checking if it will run some gaming, waiting for a reply to that - but in the meantime.......

Thanks!

Matt


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Response Number 5
Name: Sabertooth
Date: September 22, 2009 at 19:06:29 Pacific
Reply:

I agree with OTH, if you are going to buy a Windows license at the present time, it is more reasonable to buy Windows 7. Granted you like & seem content with Windows XP, but you need to realize that you can easily pickup a used XP (Home) machine complete with a license for close to what you are contemplating on spending on just the XP license ... something you may want to think about.

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Response Number 6
Name: OtheHill
Date: September 22, 2009 at 22:02:33 Pacific
Reply:

I looked at the link provided by wanderer. The version being offered by the cheapest seller is also an OEM version. The only difference in the packaging is the fact that Microsoft placed an end date on selling WinXP. So they now have the more restrictive labeling. They are the same IMO.

One thing you must be careful of. In the past some vendors have sold BRANDED OEM versions of WinXP that were ONLY intended to be used on the brand computer they are for. Those are not legal to use on a custom built computer and you would have trouble with them.

I am not stating the link by wanderer is selling that type. Just warning you.


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Response Number 7
Name: mrmatt
Date: September 23, 2009 at 05:30:09 Pacific
Reply:

Thanks for your help,

Regarding Win7 - does anyone know how good it is? I thought I remember all the hype about Vista, but seems it has had its share of problems, and quite a few people do not care for it. Is Win7 without bugs or qualities that users will not care for. I am sure there are always some in the crowd that do not like everyproduct, but will the dislike be at a level akin to Vista?

I have other computers at home that are networked, all have XP, and am guessing if I get WIn7 there will be no prob with the network of 2 computers with diff OS operating items on each others desktop or programs?

Thanks again!


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Response Number 8
Name: OtheHill
Date: September 23, 2009 at 06:31:02 Pacific
Reply:

Windows 7 is much better than Vista.

With all new hardware you shouldn't have any trouble.

Where you MAY have some issues is with older peripherals like printers and scanners for instance where there may not be any Windows 7 drivers available which may make the device unusable.

Generally speaking any Vista device driver should work for Windows 7.

Also, some software may not work under Vista/Windows7. You should check if you have doubts.


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Response Number 9
Name: Michael J (by mjdamato)
Date: September 23, 2009 at 22:35:25 Pacific
Reply:

"Building your own pc and buying retail means you are your own support."

Not true. If you buy Retail you get your support directly from MS as was stated in the rest of the text you previously quoted:

"This OEM System Builder Channel software requires the assembler to provide end user support for the Windows software and cannot be transferred to another computer once it is installed. To acquire Windows software with support provided by Microsoft please see our full package "Retail" product offerings."

If you get an OEM license by buying a prebuilt computer from Dell, geteway, etc. Then the builder provides the support.

There's also no reason a person cannot buy an OEM version of Windows as long as they abide by the terms of use for the OEM version. OEM versions are meant for system builders, which MS defines as "an original equipment manufacturer, or an assembler, reassembler, or installer of software on computer systems"

Michael J


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