second activation code for XP

December 8, 2004 at 13:43:24
Specs: Windows XP Home Ed., P4 2.6c/1024DDR PC3200

how do i go about getting a second product key code from ms? i have a valid windows xp home cd with product activation key. would like to install on 2nd home pc.

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#1
December 8, 2004 at 13:45:21

You don't. Micro$oft policy is one xp cd per one machine, no but's no if's. Sorry.

i_XpUser


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#2
December 8, 2004 at 13:58:19

You can have as many xp activation codes as you need. It is perfectly legal to use 1 xp install disc with multiple activation codes.
This is done every day by builders and manufacturers. The issue is that your activation codes MUST match your install disc...if you have an upgrade install disc then you must use an upgrade activation code(and acceptable prior OS) If you use a full Install then you must have a full install activation code and OEM versions ARE different than factory. You can purchase the COA (codes) from various online retailers.
Not to plug but I have gotten some through
SuperDealOnLine @
http://atl.aitweb.net/cgi-bin/ait-index.asp
Just besure that what you buy is what you need.

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#3
December 8, 2004 at 14:23:33

Also I believe that if you phone MS with a credit card in your hand, they will give you one over the phone.

Stuart


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#4
December 8, 2004 at 14:29:52

thanks lurkswithin but i only see one for windows 98 se. i have a legal windows xp home install cd with product key.


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#5
December 8, 2004 at 14:31:34

Also I believe that if you phone MS with a credit card in your hand, they will give you one over the phone.

How much???

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#6
December 8, 2004 at 14:59:29

pricewatch.com is the place to search for another license for xp.
M$ wants more, all you need is an oem license.

one i grabbed at random from pricewatch is
Microsoft Windows XP Home COA /Active.key/Manual (DSP NO CD) 100% Genuine Windows XP Home 888-220-1822
Price - $45
Shipping -
Free USPS



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#7
December 8, 2004 at 15:51:37

jimmymac go here and look at 4th line down

http://atl.aitweb.net/cgi-bin/ait-prodlist.asp?menu_no=11&submenu_no=4

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#8
December 8, 2004 at 15:52:43

sorry...5th line down

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#9
December 8, 2004 at 16:18:10

got it,thanks!

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#10
December 8, 2004 at 17:09:46

Everyone should take a look at this article on MS website concerning COAs. Basically there is no such thing as a stand alone COA that is legal, according to this spokesperson from MS. Lawsuits have been recently filed. http://www.microsoft.com/presspass/features/2004/nov04/11-30COA.asp

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#11
December 8, 2004 at 17:20:23

And this (also from Micro$oft)...

Are there different types of software piracy? Is one type of piracy less damaging than any other?


i_XpUser


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#12
December 8, 2004 at 21:45:23

(3) Original equipment manufacturer (OEM) stand-alone product. This form of license misuse occurs when OEM version software has been unbundled from its designated computer system and distributed as a separate (or stand-alone) product. The Microsoft agreement with computer manufacturers prohibits them from distributing Microsoft products in this fashion, that is, without accompanying computer hardware. Microsoft products on the retail shelf should never include a line on the front cover of the User's Guide that states, "For Distribution Only With New Computer Hardware."


(Legally this hardware can be a mouse, or pc speakers, or a network card.)


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#13
December 9, 2004 at 02:00:19

No it cannot.

According to my OEM agreement it must be a piece of hardware that the computer will not run without like a hard drive or processor. Speakers, a NIC or a mouse do not cut it.

Also there is no such thing as a legal standalone COA. Each one must be accompanied by media to be legit.

Jimi_l


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#14
December 9, 2004 at 06:03:55

Remember, Google is your friend...it's amazing what can be found about product activation if you plug in the right terms

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#15
December 9, 2004 at 10:57:47

yeah you're right I got my copy with my new pc.
and they also had oem versions for around $100.
with qualifying hardware such as a motherboard,
hard drive etc.

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#16
December 9, 2004 at 15:18:03

I have purchased many of the COA that have been sold with various hadrware and have installed them on my personal computers. These COA are legitimate versions and are NOT counterfeited versions. At NO TIME have I ever had any problem using these COA's and they all activated without any issues whatsoever. As of 12/08/2004, They have all passed the online valuations test with M$ to prove the legitamacies of the install. They were all legally purchased through a M$ certified retailer and under the accordance between that retailer and M$. That satisfies my legal requirements of purchasing.
The articles above all relate to ILLEGAL copying of M$ products and selling counterfeited programs as from my intake of them and also refer to the illegal selling of stand alone COA's taken from builder's supplies and seperated from the original piece of hardware that they were suppose to be used for(all of which carry the builder,s logo or name as "Dell", "HP", etc., and those names are embedded within the software and the COA themselves. None of which applies to my purchases.
In my discussions today with a few of the retailers that I purchased from..They all assured me that my purchases from them were and have been legitimate and that I was not in any violation in purchasing them and neither were they in violation in their selling them to me as stated in their agreements with M$.
As for M$ saying this is against their rights and all that, then I think it is up to them to prove that I purchased them illegally or were sold to me illegally.
For what it is worth, the articles went on to mention that M$ was envolved in "Leveling the Field" for the "Big Boys" and that is what this is about.
I maintain that I was legal in the purchasing of the products and am legal in the using of the products, along with the statement that I have done nothing to infringe on the rights of M$ as they have passed and ok'ed all of them through the M$ verifications and activations.
Enough said.

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#17
December 9, 2004 at 16:11:08

I say again, read the article that I posted the address to. This article was written by a Microsoft representative.

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#18
December 9, 2004 at 21:26:58

I don't need to read that article or any other articles concerning this. If I have broken any of their rules then let them come after me and prove it in court. In the mean time I will continue to purchase items through legal purchasing processes and with legal tender
If theses also pass their online verification processes then great for me
When they don't then oops I guess I got screwed on that transaction. and so be it. It is not a illegal operation to purchase their products through an authorised M$ retailer. If they have an issue with the legallity of the sale then they will have to deal with it.NOT ME. My state laws protect me from being held accountable from a third party theft of property. I have made every attempt to satisfy my right to purchase these products and will continue to do so. M$ has verified that the poducts that I have purchased through their authorised retailer are legit with their online activation and verification. End of story.


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#19
December 10, 2004 at 02:25:06

Your full of it,

There is no legal way to buy just a COA. AND there are no legit MS dealers that will sell you one regardless of what anyone told you. Go to the MS site and read it for yourself.


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#20
December 10, 2004 at 03:42:36

This is taken directly from the M$ EULA:

Quote"1.5 Storage/Network Use. You may also store or install a copy of the Software on a storage device, such as a network server, used only to install or run the Software on your other Workstation Computers over an internal network; however, you must acquire and dedicate an additional license for each separate Workstation Computer on or from which the Software is installed, used, accessed, displayed or run. Except as otherwise permitted by the NetMeeting and Remote Assistance features described above, a license for the Software may not be shared or used concurrently on different Workstation Computers."UNQUOTE

This says that I can use the SAME XP INSTALL DISC on seperate systems within my network so long as I aquire a seperate license for EACH storage device the software is installed on. This is what I have done and I aquired that and each seperate license for my network as per the laws and have had each one activated and certified as AUTHENTIC through MS. PERIOD...now you can set up and debate it all you want to..This is part of the MS END USER LICENSED AGREEMENT that came with my install disc and as posted on the MS site. You want to argue about what constitutes a storage device on a network.....I say that "IT DEPENDS ON WHAT THE DEFINITION OF IS, IS"
M$ says that I can do this as long as I "AQUIRE AND DEDICATE A LICENSE FOR EACH SEPERATE WORKSTATION COMPUTER ON OR FROM WHICH THE SOFTWARE IS USED, ACCESSED,DISPLAYED OR RUN"
I "AQUIRED"...I "DEDICATED" I "USE, ACCESS, DISPLAY and RUN"....and M$ has agreed that it was legit by allowing full activation and for full certification of LEGITIMACY through their OWM(M$) online VERIFICATION process. I HAVE NOT violated any licensing agreement because they say I can do it. Nor Have I violated any laws about aquiring the licenses as they were sold to me directly by one of their registered sellers of said licenses. The Big BOYS are screeming foul because I am able to legally do this and so are others. Now M$ is cracking down on conterfeited licenses and unscrupolous retailers that sell illegally and everyone is up in arms that you can't do this or that. You can purchase legal extra licenses with approved hardware. This is NOT a stand alone COA as you and others are trying to say it is. And M$ does not say it either. "Stand Alone" is just that..sold by itself or seperated from the hardware that it was supplied with.... I think this is CASE CLOSED!!!!!!!!!!

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#21
December 10, 2004 at 04:36:15

Furthermore.... Just to set the record straight. The terms used by M$ to determine the validity of the hardware That a license may be sold with is quite simple.... "It must be a part of the system that the computer cannot operate without" and M$ goes on to describe what those MAY consist of in which is stated and again I quote " A POWERCORD"...... This is directly from M$.

Now please tell me where a certified seller of M$ software/hardware is doing anything ILLEGAL by selling a COA with a powercord or any other piece of HARDWARE that is vital to the computer. You Can't buy it with any type of peripheral hardware because that is not vital to the computer. These consist of items like network cards and modems.
Now It comes down to this... The EULA says that you can only use one copy of the software on only one machine. But then it says that you may install copies on other machines within your network so long as you aquire and dedicate the license seperately for each machine(workstation)..... M$ says that the COA's can be sold through their sellers as long as they are not seperated from the hardware that they are supplied with and that being such that it is vital to the machines use.
With all that..... I have purchased a legal windows XP operating system with a license to install it on a single machine. Now, that I need to set up a network, I buy the hardware and a coa from a licensed seller and build myself another computer, install the OS and activate it as prescribed to do and dedicate that COA to that machine as I am suppose to. Then set up my network or include it within my network...... I hope that you are really understanding this because I don't think that I can say this any simpler.
All of that was done within the rules, laws and all other governing aspects as per the EULA and M$ seller agreements.
There is no illegal acts here....NONE!

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#22
December 10, 2004 at 05:10:54

lurkswithin
I basically agree with what you say concerning the EULA and purchasing software with hardware. The vendors may stretch the rules a little there but where I differ is here. I have never purchased like this without recieving the actual media. This is the big difference. You MUST receive the media. This is basically what the article you refuse to read, states.

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#23
December 10, 2004 at 05:57:07

23. ENTIRE AGREEMENT; SEVERABILITY. This EULA (including any addendum or amendment to this EULA which is included with the Software) is the entire agreement between you and Microsoft relating to the Software and the support services (if any) and they supersede all prior or contemporaneous oral or written communications, proposals and representations with respect to the Software or any other subject matter covered by this EULA. To the extent the terms of any Microsoft policies or programs for support services conflict with the terms of this EULA, the terms of this EULA shall control. If any provision of this EULA is held to be void, invalid, unenforceable or illegal, the other provisions shall continue in full force and effect.

Just to point this out. For all of those that don't seem to get the grasp of this article. Point Blank..... They can write all the articles and claim anything thay want to at and including M$ websites about what they can and what is this and what is that.... But if it isn't in here ...well it just doesn't mean squat.

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#24
December 10, 2004 at 08:51:42

The practice of selling or using COA labels that do not correspond with the appropriate software is the same as distributing an appraisal certificate for a diamond separately from the sale of the diamond. A COA label has no independent value if it is separated from the software it authenticates," said Pip Marlow, general manager for U.S. Partner Enablement at Microsoft. "The purchase program is one way in which Microsoft is responding to the feedback from our partners and customers who tell us that we need to take steps to protect them against dishonest dealers and resellers who are peddling unlicensed and counterfeit software."


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#25
December 10, 2004 at 16:43:14

You just don't get it, do you.
I agree whole heartedly with what that is in reference to. AT no time have I refered to doing anything unlawfull/illegal or even out of the ordinary. The problem is that people like you and others take what you believe to be something and build it into something that it is not. There are explicit rules that must be followed and adhered to and I for one abide by them. VERY< VERY MUCH SO.
In as much pashion as the next person. I think that dishonest sales reps and criminals and others such as that should be delt with on the most extreme levels. In saying that I will repeat again that at NO TIME HAVE I MADE A REFERENCE TO OR INTERERED INTO AN ACTION THAT IS IN A DIRECT VIOLATION TO OR OF THE LEGAL BUYING, PURCHASING OR USING OF M$ SOFTWARE. NOR DO I CONDONE THE BUYING, PURCHASING, OR USE OF ILLEGAL, STOLEN, MISDIRECTED, COUTERFEITED OR FORGED M$ OR ANYONES ELSES SOFTWARE.
AS per M$, software is divided into various categories in which it is described into detail as to what may or may not be done with it. And a full disclosure is there for all to see and read. As stated in one of my numerous prior statements, the COA must be bought in accordance to what software that you already have and will not work otherwise
as in if you have an upgrade then you must purchase a license to that. If you have a full retail license then you must purchase to that one. If you have an OEM then you must purchase to that and so on.
your quoting Pip Marlow in your last posting is in direct accordance with that statement. Nothing more, nothing less. That is the only bundling between license and media. Period.
A License/COA that is for an upgrade version will not work to activate a full install version of windows xp. A license/COA that is for a full install will not work with an upgrade software and so forth. So, yes, a COA that is seperated from its bundled software will not work and is "useless". And that is the extent of it.
The big boys like Dell and Gateway and HP and Bob Marlowe are watching trends from small builders. And are trying to protect their interests and are using SCARE TACTICS to frighten away the smaller single one and two computer builders from destroying the big boys. And that is exactly what it is all about.
There are many, many, many little single, double and three computer builders (mostly for their own use) and they are hurting the big boys pocket proffits. And the big boys are screaming about it. It doesn't matter that they have brought this on from their own stringent,proprietary selves in building to protect their PROFFITS by makeing sure that the little people will have to always come back. And now with the threat of OS2 systems being cheaper and as reliable as any windows base, M$ is looking at the big boys going that way, and are trying to do what they can to protect their interests,too again failing to see that by raising prices and withholding, they are creating the whirlwind of theft and counterfeiting themselves. The largest retailer in the world (Walmart) has already switched from MS to LINUX to try to induce a stronger agreement with M$. It is the way the world goes around.
The bottom line is that M$ has legal binding agreements with their partnered sellers of their product and legal binding agreements to the use of their products with the end user and also with the builders whether large or small. And no matter what is said and done what is in that agreement is what rules.
I will continue to abide with those agreements as I have always done. And They, The EULA and The resellers with their agreements say that it is legal to do it.
Anything else is just garbage in and garbage out.

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#26
December 10, 2004 at 18:19:45

Lurkswithin YOU are the one that just don't get it. Either that or you can't read.

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#27
January 1, 2005 at 15:31:32

Lurkswithin, thank you for explaining all this in such an informative manner..Its something I've had a hard time understanding..You made it simple to see and comprehend..


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#28
January 10, 2005 at 17:41:31

Here's what gets me:

You may also store or install a copy of the Software on a storage device, such as a network server, used only to install or run the Software on your other Workstation Computers over an internal network.

Now, section 1.1 of the EULA states:

* Installation and use. You may install, use, access, display and run one copy of the Product on a single computer, such as a workstation, terminal or other device ("Workstation Computer").

See, why would they not call a seperate computer a "workstation?" They refer to something called a "network server."

Lurkwithin, you may be wrong.


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