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Name: XpUser4Real
Date: October 14, 2008 at 13:49:25 Pacific
OS: xphome sp2
CPU/Ram: 2ghz/1ghz
Product: sony vaio desktop
Comment:

Hi,
I have this PC with a 320GB HD. The owner had made a 15gb partition for the operating system and now there is only 520MB of space left.
I found the Easus Partition Manager Home Edition and don't quite understand it.
When i click on the c drive partition it shows no spare room. When I click on the D partition there is still plenty of room.

My question is, I can make the D drive a smaller partition but then it wants to create another partition. How can I enlarge the C partition? The instructions don't really give me any idea on how to do that.
Can someone please help me with this? I can give more info if needed.
Thanks

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Response Number 1
Name: Jennifer SUMN
Date: October 14, 2008 at 14:37:56 Pacific
Reply:

Your user must have a LOT of data on C to take up that much space. Firstly, is the data stored on C or D? If on C, move it to D and see how much free space you have on C. Also, move the pagefile to D.

As far as the partitioning software, you may have to reduce the size of D, then actually move it on the drive in order to give you the space to expand C. I've not used that particular software, so I can't be sure of the steps.

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Response Number 2
Name: guapo
Date: October 14, 2008 at 14:40:07 Pacific
Reply:

http://www.partition-tool.com/easeu...

The instructions are right there. ^^^^^^


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Response Number 3
Name: OtheHill
Date: October 14, 2008 at 15:19:56 Pacific
Reply:

As jennifer inferred 15GB is plenty of space for the OS.

Better practice dictates the boot partition contain only the OS and some core programs.

Rather than enlarge the C partition I recommend you first move all person data to the other partition. If still tight on space then install programs on the D partition too after removing them from C.

If you are still intent on resizing the primary partition make sure you backup personal data first.

If I were running a 320GB drive I would have 4 partitions on it, not two.


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Response Number 4
Name: wanderer
Date: October 14, 2008 at 15:37:48 Pacific
Reply:

If you decide to expand c: it is highly recommended you remove all data from d: and then delete the partition. This will make the space raw. Expanding c: into raw space has always been successful for me. Higher failure rate expanding c: into d:. You end up with unmountable partitions/corruption and have to start from scratch. Hence the recommendation to backup everything [a couple of times and test/view the backups]


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Response Number 5
Name: XpUser4Real
Date: October 14, 2008 at 15:59:54 Pacific
Reply:

Thanks for all the replies....here's what is happening
1-all the programs are set up on drive D. The ones that
were C drive, I uninstalled them and re-installed them on
D
2- I can reduce the size of D and then it turns up as
unallocated space.
Now can I use that space and add it to C drive?

Someone sent me the instructions (response 2) which I
already tried. There is no mention whatsoever on adding
the unallocated space.

The other replies, I haven't yet saved the info on the
drives yet..

From what I understand with this program is that it can
resize ANY partition including the C operating partition.

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Response Number 6
Name: OtheHill
Date: October 14, 2008 at 16:06:01 Pacific
Reply:

All re-sizers can theoretically do that. Things do go wrong though.

If you have already shrunk the D partition and have some unallocated space then you go to the C partition and you expand it, using the unallocated space. You may need to partition it first. I too am unfamiliar with that program and don't use re-sizers much anyway.


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Response Number 7
Name: XpUser4Real
Date: October 14, 2008 at 16:41:36 Pacific
Reply:

That's the problem, I can't figure how to expand C to the unallocated space.

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Response Number 8
Name: larryf215
Date: October 14, 2008 at 17:35:59 Pacific
Reply:

I can't help with the program you are using but, I have done this with this live cd:

http://gparted.sourceforge.net/

I prefer to do 1 operation at a time and reboot between each one. In other words, resize, then reboot, resize the reboot, XP usally runs check disk, when you finally reboot to the HD. Of course you know this is not risk free.

larry


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Response Number 9
Name: XpUser4Real
Date: October 14, 2008 at 19:16:04 Pacific
Reply:

Larry thanks,
But that stuff is quite greek to me.
I also sent a request to easus support and if I hear back I will post the info.

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Response Number 10
Name: worldlibrary
Date: October 14, 2008 at 20:20:26 Pacific
Reply:

I fiddled with the program for about an hour a couple of weeks ago in hopes of fixing a drive that had two partitions. The OS xp was on 3 gigs and the 36 + gig was empty.

Never could find the way to get the expand partition option in Easus Partition Manager to work.

Too used to partition magic, but not enough space on C: to install it.

If you have a spare hard drive you could clone it...then take out all the partitions...resize them the clone the OS back.

A little round about, but you are not required by law :-)to sit and watch the operation.

Easus Partition Manager looks like it could be a super program in the future.... though.


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Response Number 11
Name: wanderer
Date: October 15, 2008 at 12:43:31 Pacific
Reply:

unallocated space shows up AFTER d: not AFTER c:. You can not use that space. It needs to be contiguous to c:

One of many reasons to backup and delete d:

Cloning as suggested by worldlibrary is a method I have used successfully before. Good recommendation.


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Response Number 12
Name: XpUser4Real
Date: October 15, 2008 at 12:56:43 Pacific
Reply:

Here is the reply from Easus tech support:
If you want to enlarge your system partition, you must confirm that there
is some unallocated space next to the system partition. Otherwise the
system partition will not be able to enlarge.
After that, you may position the mouse pointer on the right boundary of
the C: partition. When the mouse pointer changes to a double-headed arrow,
you should drag the handle to the right to enlarge the partition. At last,
you have to apply these changes in the left pane. The resizing operation
would be executed during the next rebooting.

It still doesn't seem to work so I replied back to them for more advice.

Also, thanks wanderer for your advice, There is over 150GB of stuff on the D partition


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Response Number 13
Name: OtheHill
Date: October 15, 2008 at 13:13:55 Pacific
Reply:

I would bet even money the owner of the computer has no backups. Why not convince them to buy an external drive or another internal for backups. Then you could image to it and create new partitions.

Wheather or not backups exist you shouldn't be resizing without them. If the deal goes south you will catch the flack.

One other thing to mention. There are several other programs available to resize partitions. Some work right inside Windows and are as simple as dragging the size bar sideways.

Acronis® Disk Director Suite 10.0 has a free trial period that should satify your immediate needs. I haven't used that suite but have used other Acronis software.

http://www.acronis.com/homecomputin...


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Response Number 14
Name: XpUser4Real
Date: October 15, 2008 at 14:33:48 Pacific
Reply:

Thanks Othehill, I will try that product, hopefully it will do what it says it will!
I'll let you know


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Response Number 15
Name: XpUser4Real
Date: October 15, 2008 at 15:02:16 Pacific
Reply:

Hi OtheHill, I got into a chat with Acronis and the trial version is not totally functional, BUT, they said I could merge both partitions together and the PC would still work out fine if I purchased their product:
Here's the limitations:
Anthony: Acronis Disk Director Suite 10.0 trial version has the following limitations:

Anthony: Only partitions of the minimum size (1 cylinder ~ 7,8 MBytes) can be created (both in Windows and in rescue mode)

Anthony: Acronis OS Selector trial period expires after 15 days, and then starts with a 15 seconds delay

Anthony: No other operations can be committed

So I guess it is simply a trial that doesn't work...LOL
Thanks for the suggestion though


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Response Number 16
Name: OtheHill
Date: October 15, 2008 at 16:19:48 Pacific
Reply:

Have a look at the this link.

http://www.hiren.info/pages/bootcd


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Response Number 17
Name: wanderer
Date: October 15, 2008 at 16:54:50 Pacific
Reply:

150gig of data on d:??

you are headed for disaster. No if, ands, or buts.

How will you feel if you lost it all????

Your best option is buy acronis and a 2nd hard drive and use the clone method. This will at least give you a backup if something fails.


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Response Number 18
Name: trvlr
Date: October 15, 2008 at 22:10:13 Pacific
Reply:

Can only echo Wanderer re' risk of data loss etc... A few $$$$/£££'s well spent now will reduce (if not completely remove) the tears in the future...

Spend the pennies (buy a sitable util - and Acronis is worth the cash from my limited experience with it) and transfer/copy data to a new/second drive? Maybe even duplicate to optical too; no single storage system is entirely failure-proof etc...?


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Response Number 19
Name: XpUser4Real
Date: October 15, 2008 at 23:33:33 Pacific
Reply:

OtheHill, thanks for the link, I didn't see the download but it has tons of stuff on it that's for sure.

Trvlr, I think there's too much stuff to back up.

I'll wait and see what Easus Teck support comes up with, if their product works it will be awesome!


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Response Number 20
Name: OtheHill
Date: October 16, 2008 at 05:51:27 Pacific
Reply:

I will agree with the others and state for the THIRD time that you should make a backup of at least the personal files.

Acronis True Image, their imaging/cloning program has a 15 day free trial that I believe is fully functional. You can download it from the Acronis site. You can also buy it at newegg.com for about $25. Refer back to #13.


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Response Number 21
Name: XpUser4Real
Date: October 16, 2008 at 07:50:00 Pacific
Reply:

OtheHill, check response 15 about Acronis


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Response Number 22
Name: OtheHill
Date: October 16, 2008 at 08:33:57 Pacific
Reply:

That was for Acronis Disk Director Suite 10. I am talking about Acronis True Image.

The reason the Disk Director may not be fully functional is because once your resize your partitions you don't need it again.

Normally when you create a disk image it is done for insurance. It is more likely you will need that image for restore purposes later, rather than within 15 days. Therefore Acronis can allow full functionality without much risk of being ripped off.

The reason I stated I BELIEVE is fully functional is this. Prior to the latest version coming out within the last two weeks the Acronis site stated the free trial was for a fully functional version.

If you were to clone and then clone back to the original drive you would be doing that the same day. You wouldn't care if the trial period expired.

That said, it sounds like you personally don't use any backup software. If that is the case you are playing Russian Roulette.

Doing that with your own files is one thing, doing it with someone Else's files is another story.


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Response Number 23
Name: XpUser4Real
Date: October 16, 2008 at 18:01:28 Pacific
Reply:

Well GLORY BE!!!! The Easeus Partition Manager Home Edition pulled through with flying colors.

What the tech support had told me worked out and I was able downsize the D Partition and then I was able to resize the operating system partition to a larger size.

I didn't back anything up because the owner said as long as I could resize the partitions she would be happy.

So I would recommend this free for home use software to anyone as it worked great for me. As far as we can tell, all the user files are still intact, programs run fine etc.

Thanks to everyone for their advice!!
The problem is solved.


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Response Number 24
Name: OtheHill
Date: October 16, 2008 at 19:59:43 Pacific
Reply:

"I didn't back anything up because the owner said as long as I could resize the partitions she would be happy".

Of course she would be happy IF you could resize WITHOUT losing any of the data that has never been backed up.

At the risk of being flamed I would say this. Don't thank us, because you didn't take our advice. You escaped this time but keep gambling and you will get someone really pissed.


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