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Name: indigian
Date: September 21, 2006 at 07:19:38 Pacific
OS: XP Pro
CPU/Ram: X2 4600+@2.8ghz & 1GB
Product: Self Built
Comment:

This is proving a lot harder than I thought.

Or I'm not looking in the right places?

I need a registry cleaner that will either:-

A-Clean an imported/saved registry.
B-Clean a registry on another partition.

Basically I have a multiboot computer and I need to be able to clean a reigistry from another partition.
I do not want to install a reg cleaner on each OS/partition.

Thought I'd found one with 'registry smoker'.
But even though it says it will scan other partitions it does not actually find anything.
I tested this by scanning one of my partitions,smoker found no probs.
I then booted to said partition and installed smoker,it found nearly 100 errors.

Anyone know of a registry cleaner that will do this?

Tt Lanfire
MSI K8N Diamond
X2 4600+@234x12=2.8ghz 1:1
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Response Number 1
Name: StuartS
Date: September 21, 2006 at 08:02:55 Pacific
Reply:

>> I do not want to install a reg cleaner on each OS/partition <<

Its the only way to do it. The registry is part of the OS. An active OS just sees non-active OS's as ordinary data files and will not be able to find the registry.

Even if it could it would be a highly dangerous thing to do as it would have no way of knowing which were genuine entries and which were crap as it would compare it with the currently running OS. It won't be able to work out what is what in the idle OS.

Stuart


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Response Number 2
Name: josh (by jpag3074)
Date: September 21, 2006 at 08:12:43 Pacific
Reply:

Disagree - all they need to do is program the ability to access other Partitons (i do not know of registry cleaning software that does this) - at that point they can point the necessary reg hives (system, software, security, user.sam)(C:\windows\system32\config is the location of your registry hives) you can edit a nonbooted windows OS registry through these files and having that HD hooked up as slave on another computer (and the ability to be accessed of course) - forget the cleaners - load your hives in regedit under the proper hkey's, make your changes, unload hives and put HD back into original machine -

yup!


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Response Number 3
Name: Tubesandwires
Date: September 21, 2006 at 08:15:38 Pacific
Reply:

"Basically I have a multiboot computer and I need to be able to clean a reigistry from another partition.
I do not want to install a reg cleaner on each OS/partition."

You will have to install a reg cleaner on each Windows partition.

The registry is not one file, it is a blend of at least two. It only becomes what you see as a registry when Windows is running on the same partition. You can't clean the registry on other Windows installations that are not running at the time.



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Response Number 4
Name: josh (by jpag3074)
Date: September 21, 2006 at 08:17:35 Pacific
Reply:

"You can't clean the registry on other Windows installations that are not running at the time"
Yes you can.

yup!


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Response Number 5
Name: StuartS
Date: September 21, 2006 at 08:24:42 Pacific
Reply:

Josh,

Manually editing a registry is one thing, which in itself is dangerous if you don't know what you are doing.

Have a reg cleaner do it automatically is something completely different which is what the question is about.

Stuart


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Response Number 6
Name: josh (by jpag3074)
Date: September 21, 2006 at 08:29:14 Pacific
Reply:

Reg cleaners are not perfect, i have had multiple machines in because registry cleaners broke windows - I would rather manually edit myself (at least i know what i removed then) (but that is not for everyone) - number two I disagreed with THIS part of your statement

"An active OS just sees non-active OS's as ordinary data files and will not be able to find the registry"
That is untrue - A slave HD with winxp installed can have its registry accessed by a master HD running winxp using regedit, going to file, then load hive - and navigating to the location above -

To All:
Always remember BACKUP REGISTRY before doing anything, whether it be manual or reg cleaning utilities.

yup!


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Response Number 7
Name: StuartS
Date: September 21, 2006 at 08:39:40 Pacific
Reply:

You using regedit again, and therefore manual methods. Not what the question was about.

Stuart


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Response Number 8
Name: jefro
Date: September 21, 2006 at 18:28:00 Pacific
Reply:

Make yourself a UBCD4WIN CD. XP provides a way to load local and remote hives. You can edit, clean or whatever to them. If you don't want to use the CD then just get the tools that they offer. They run just fine from a CD or usb or hd.


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Response Number 9
Name: indigian
Date: September 22, 2006 at 04:00:44 Pacific
Reply:

Thanks for the reply guys,although I'm thinking I might have opened a tin o worms lol

So which one of you is correct?

Of the few "demos" I've tried so far a couple alledgedly are able to scan other partitions,hives,imported.

Case in point is the 1 I mentioned.
It says it can scan other partitions.
It only finds errors when installed on 'that' partition though.

Conflicting views but who is right?

Tt Lanfire
MSI K8N Diamond
X2 4600+@234x12=2.8ghz 1:1
1GB PC3200/4400
OCZ Powerstream 520w
6600GT
WDCaviar 160gb sata x2


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Response Number 10
Name: StuartS
Date: September 22, 2006 at 07:49:16 Pacific
Reply:

The differnce btween manually editing the registry where you tell the application where to find the registry then decide for yourself what to delete and an automatic registry cleaner which has to find the registry itself and then work out for itself what to delete.

Stuart


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Response Number 11
Name: Tubesandwires
Date: September 22, 2006 at 08:23:07 Pacific
Reply:

Either method will work - it depends on how much complication you want to deal with. If you would rather do something less complicated and that doesn't require more research as to how to do it, just install a registry cleaner on each Windows partition


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Response Number 12
Name: indigian
Date: September 22, 2006 at 09:27:59 Pacific
Reply:

"The differnce btween manually editing the registry where you tell the application where to find the registry then decide for yourself what to delete"

This would be acceptable.

When in regedit you can 'export' the entire registry.
It saves as a .reg file

Is there a software that will check this saved file for errors?

If the software can also fix the errors all the better but I'm not afraid of using regedit to manually delete any errors it finds.

Sorry if it's getting confusing but basically I am.

Confused that is.

Tt Lanfire
MSI K8N Diamond
X2 4600+@234x12=2.8ghz 1:1
1GB PC3200/4400
OCZ Powerstream 520w
6600GT
WDCaviar 160gb sata x2


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Response Number 13
Name: StuartS
Date: September 22, 2006 at 10:14:35 Pacific
Reply:

>> Is there a software that will check this saved file for errors? <<

No, becasue it would have to refere to the Wndows installation it came form. Finding the erros is the hard part. Deleting them is easy.

How, for instance, how would it know if there is a bad refernce to a .DLL file if it can't work out where the .DLL file is supposed to be. It can only look in the currently running installation

Path names in the registry will have no relleavance unless the OS that it belongs to is currently running.

You could only do it manually and take the risk of deleting something you shouldn't have.

Stuart


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