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ReGhosted HD will not boot

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Name: Brianosaur
Date: December 2, 2005 at 13:41:27 Pacific
OS: xp
CPU/Ram: 3.0/1gig
Comment:

I had to rebuild my Raid 0 b/c of a mobo prob and Raid array (HD#1) is fine now.

Ghosted an image of the raid drive, w/ a working XP O/S, back onto the array. This image came from backup storage drive (HD#2).

Ghost completed fine.

Bios recognizes all HDs.

Set bios to boot the Raid HD 1st.

I Checked fdisk and shows the Raid drive as active.

Raid HD will not boot XP now.

Just get a flashing dos cursor after CMOS loads up.

I reset bios to boot the another HD 1st, and I am currently running XP from yet another backup O/S drive (HD#3). Explorer sees the Raid HD (HD#1) along w/ HD's #2 & HD#3. I see my old XP data on it (not running now obviously). Disk management says the Raid HD is "Healthy (Active)"



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Response Number 1
Name: wanderer
Date: December 2, 2005 at 15:51:21 Pacific
Reply:

You could end up with a messed up install of XP is drive letters change but that's another issue.

Flashing cursor is an indicator of no master boot record. You can do a fdisk /mbr or go into recovery console and do a fixmbr. While there you should also do a fixboot which will update the vbr [volume boot record]

This is assuming you have the files boot.ini, ntdetect and ntldr on the root of this drive and this drive/partition is c:

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Response Number 2
Name: per
Date: December 2, 2005 at 15:58:08 Pacific
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If you did an image it won't boot. You must do a CLONE.
http://ghost.radified.com/ghost_1.htm

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Response Number 3
Name: Sangamoura
Date: December 3, 2005 at 13:52:59 Pacific
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Sorry to disagree with you per but a Ghost image of an active C:\ drive (or partition) WILL boot, I have done it innumerable times and is my preferred method for routine backing up.

I quote from the excellent radified.com guide, p13........................

"Let me preface this section by saying I have never cloned anything. I've only created & restored images."

I, like the author, have never used CLONE only IMAGES.

With the greatest respect, poor or incorrect advice is worse than none.


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Response Number 4
Name: per
Date: December 3, 2005 at 14:10:05 Pacific
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Agreed, if you want to go through the hassle of creating a floppy boot disk to copy to the cd or boot the hdd. The author of the ghost radified on page 13 says he has never cloned anything and doesn't understand cloning. I use the dos version of ghost for backup drive to drive. I have attempted the image and it never created a bootable copy. I got the original info from a casperxp tech who informed me of this when casperxp would not create a bootable hdd with an image, only a clone.

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Response Number 5
Name: Brianosaur
Date: December 3, 2005 at 15:58:50 Pacific
Reply:

OK guys, but what should I do now?


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Response Number 6
Name: Sangamoura
Date: December 3, 2005 at 16:14:18 Pacific
Reply:

Getting slightly confused now as you seem to be talking about two completely separate things and I'm beginning to think that you may have completely missed the point of the question...!

The poster has a PC the drive of which which has apparently been successfully restored from an image but is not booting when logically it should.

I totally agree that to create an image CD which is bootable does indeed require that a floppy image be copied to the CD also. Whether or not a clone results in a bootable CD I couldn't say as it's something I've simply never felt the need to do.

This is not whats at the issue here though.

You asserted that "If you did an image it won't boot" which is incorrect.

I have, as I've said, over many years, made and restored innumerable images and I can categorically assure you that a Ghost image of a bootable drive or partition, e.g. C:\, will, when restored, result in a bootable drive.

I mean, this is the whole point of the imaging process after all....lol.

IMHO the problem will almost certainly be something to do with the posters RAID configuration or possibly the drive's MBR has become damaged or corrupted.



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Response Number 7
Name: per
Date: December 3, 2005 at 16:24:27 Pacific
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And I reiterate-I have for many years used the dos version to clone hdd to hdd and they are always bootable with no floppy needed except the initial boot of the machine and then select clone disk to disk. Then you simply swap the hdd's and boot from the hdd. Go ahead and help him. I am done here.

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Response Number 8
Name: Sangamoura
Date: December 3, 2005 at 16:28:24 Pacific
Reply:

Sorry Brianosaur, I was penning my previous reply and didn't realise you'd jumped in again.

I don't know whether your drives are ATA or Serial but it doesn't really matter.

What I would probably do at this point would be to forget about RAID for a moment and just hook up the single drive with the restored image and see what happens.

If it still refuses to boot Fdisk and format it again then copy across the system files from a boot floppy with the SYS command.

The HD should now boot to a C:\ prompt and if it does that's pretty conclusive evidence that it's MBR & boot sectors are healthy.

Next try restoring your image again with fingers crossed.

If this fails I would be suspicious of the image. Have you got an older one to try instead?


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Response Number 9
Name: Sangamoura
Date: December 3, 2005 at 16:38:55 Pacific
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"And I reiterate-I have for many years used the dos version to clone hdd to hdd and they are always bootable with no floppy needed except the initial boot of the machine and then select clone disk to disk. Then you simply swap the hdd's and boot from the hdd."

EXACTLY....and the same is true of an image create and restore which you asserted wouldn't boot.

Peace brother.......................


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Response Number 10
Name: Brianosaur
Date: December 3, 2005 at 17:15:22 Pacific
Reply:

Thanks Wanderer - "Fdisk/mdr" did it!!


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