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Name: Terminator14
Date: February 24, 2005 at 22:40:38 Pacific
OS: Xp Pro
CPU/Ram: 512 MB
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Hey guys! Its me again

About a year ago I used to have a 1 GHZ computer and then I upgraded it to 2.4 GHZ
Over the course of the year I kept upgrading stuff like the case of the computer, the hard drive and now I have an awsome 2.4 GHZ computer but I also have in my closet all the parts I need to make an old 1GHZ comp so I thought what the hell? I could use another pc but after I took it out I got some questions about what some of the stuff in it was. At the same, at school we were supposed to make some kind of site with flash and stuff and I already registered for freewebs so I posted my computer pictures there and the questions I had. If you guys have time please visit http://www.freewebs.com/dxgameunit
BTW I mosted the pictures in high res and apperently freewebs has a very slow server to download from but you don't have to wait if you don't want to... the high res pics are only if you can't make do with the slightly smaller pics already there so please check the site out and if you can help with anything please e-mail jor145@NOSPAMhotmail.com
Remove the NOSPAM
Thanks a lot.
P.S.
Ive seen some people do the NOSPAM thing when they write their e-mail so im guessing there is some kind of a prog that looks for e-mails to spam to on the net so I thought Id do the NOSPAM thing too. Haha



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Response Number 1
Name: Terminator14
Date: February 24, 2005 at 22:44:26 Pacific
Reply:

Its me again.
I messed up and accidentally put the wrong e-mail lol. Stupid Me
The Email is

jor145_7@NOSPAMhotmail.com
(remove the no spam)

thanks again.
P.S. this website is my first one that I have ever posted ;)


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Response Number 2
Name: ...
Date: February 24, 2005 at 23:36:41 Pacific
Reply:

Clicking on the links doesn't show a bigger picture...i had to right-click all of the pics and click on view image...

you should look around the motherboard for identifying info...like manufacturer and model number. Then do a search and see if you can locate a manual for it. It'll show you which pins to use for the speaker and the front panel leds. If you look around the motherboard's pins, you'll usually find what the pin is for....like SPKR for the speaker.

In the 7th picture, the green and yellow ones look like the speaker plug if you were to use an audio wire to connect an optical drive (cd rom, etc) to the motherboard. I don't know what that black one is for though

In the 8th picture, it's hard to make out...maybe pins for a case fan? Or are you talking about the pci slots? (pci are usually white and shorter than ISA, which are black)

I'll leave the other pictures to other people...like you, I'm not too sure about them (the last computer that i had that was similar to yours...now is being used as a seat in the garage lol...



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Response Number 3
Name: Michael J (by mjdamato)
Date: February 25, 2005 at 00:21:59 Pacific
Reply:

1 You say you upgraded your computer and you think that is GLUE holding the heatsink on the processor!?!?

It is not glue it is a thermal compound that helps to transfer heat from the processor to the heatsink where it can dissipitate. Do not (I REPEAT DO NOT) attempt to test the processor without properly seating the heatsink with new thermal coumpound (AKA paste). Get some thermal paste and follow the directions (very carefully).

2 That black slot is an ISA slot. They cme before PCI slots (the white ones which have a much higher bandwidth). You probably don't have any devices that are PCI and you probably don't want to get any. Just forget it's there.

3 Yeah, that's your speaker connector. It should be connected to the pins at the bottom-right of your MB pic 6 (if it supports a speaker that is). You will either need to get the manual for your motherboard which should have detailed drawing of what goes where on those or you can try and read the little white words below those two rows of pins. That is always the hardest part of building a computer these days IMHO.

4 That is the "extra" power connector that is required for P4 systems. Your board doesn't suport P4's so forget about it.

5 Well let's see. You have a VIA chipset. 1xAGP (1X,2X,4X???), 1xPCI Riser, 5xPCI, 1xISA, 2 IDE Conrtollers, 1 Floppy Controller, USB (Number ?), and I can't see the rest of the onboard devices since there's no picture of the back.

6 The two long rows of pins are for your front case connections - see #3 above. The white one is probably for an optional case fan. The others??? - there are usually many pins, jumpers, etc. on all types of computer boards (mother, video, sound) and many of them have no purpose for the end user. get the manual if you really want to know what everythin is - even the manual wont tell you about all of them if they have no use for you.

7 Audio connectors (I'm assuming that this board has on-board sound. One is probably for a CD, another for a modem, ... GET YOUR MANUAL!

8 Read the bold text above again.

9 Those will be the power switch, Power LED, HDD LED, Reset Switch, maybe others. They go on the pins in pic #6. Hopefully the black connectors have names on them otherwise you'll have a fun time trying to figure them all out. Again - get your manual.

Michael J


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Response Number 4
Name: puppet1984
Date: February 25, 2005 at 04:38:57 Pacific
Reply:

what you have wrote michael is very comprehensive.

i'm not trying to annoy you but in number 2 did you mean forget about the isa slot not forget about the pci?

i'm not being a arse correcting you i'm just doing it so he doesnt get confused

Athlon xp 2500+ @2.17
pc 3200 512mb ram
radeon 9200se
win xp home oem


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Response Number 5
Name: Terminator14
Date: February 25, 2005 at 15:30:06 Pacific
Reply:

Hey.

Just got back from school... I'm checking out all the posts now. Thanks a lot Michael J (who is or WAS a killer player btw lol) tons of info there. Thanks to everyone else who responded too :)

I was just wondering: do I need the adhesive paste for the processor or the normal paste? I went to

http://www.arcticsilver.com/arctic_silver_instructions.htm

and it sais you only need adhesive paste if you have no other means of attaching the heatsink to the processor. I'm pretty sure that the clam on the heatsink is used to attach itself to the processor but should I get the adhesive paste anyway for like stronger grip or is there no point?

Thanks


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Response Number 6
Name: Terminator14
Date: February 25, 2005 at 16:06:10 Pacific
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Second Question.

As you can see from the first picture on the site, there is some left over paste on both the bottom of the heatsink and the processor (or at least I think it is leftover paste). The following I got from the website I mentioned in the above post:

ONLY Arctic Silver thermal compound should be between the processor core and the heatsink. Remove any thermal pads or other interface material from the heatsink before applying the Arctic Silver. Thermal pads can be scraped off with a plastic tool that will not scratch the bottom then the remnants can be removed with ArctiClean 1Thermal Material Remover and ArctiClean 2 Thermal Surface Purifier. If you do not have ArctiClean, use a xylene based cleaner, (Goof Off and some carburetor cleaners) acetone, mineral spirits, or high-purity isopropyl alcohol.

Do I need to get rid of whatever that is on the processor and the heatsink or can I just apply the paste ignoring the previous stuff? What you think?

Thanks


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