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Name: jlyon
Date: March 20, 2005 at 15:02:09 Pacific
OS: XP pro
CPU/Ram: 1.5 ghz Intel P4/ 256mb
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Hi,
I recently put in a new hard drive, 80g hitachi, with XP pro. Thing is, my programs seem to load up pretty slow, slower than normal anyways. They're fine once they're loaded. Just kind of annoying. I've run complete checks on all processes running nothing unusual, and ad-wared, spybot, swat-it, Norton anti-virus checked my whole system from safe mode. They showed clean. Any ideas? Thanks



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Response Number 1
Name: per
Date: March 20, 2005 at 15:05:55 Pacific
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Have you defragged the drive?


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Response Number 2
Name: jlyon
Date: March 20, 2005 at 15:21:29 Pacific
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No, but I've only had the new hard drive less about a month, is it necessary thats the problem so soon? I'll try and post back.


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Response Number 3
Name: per
Date: March 20, 2005 at 15:23:55 Pacific
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Depending on how often or how much you use the machine you should defrag at least once a week.


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Response Number 4
Name: demonking
Date: March 20, 2005 at 15:32:49 Pacific
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Defragging your HDD is always a good option, however, I bought a Hitachi 80HDD, and ran into the same probs, it was to replace my Maxtor 80HDD (thought it was dead), now I use the Hitachi as SL and the Maxtor as MS. Interesting to see if any other forum users have come accross this problem.
Hope this helps

The world is full of willing people, some are willing to work, others are willing to let them; just a thought!


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Response Number 5
Name: joave
Date: March 20, 2005 at 17:11:04 Pacific
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I use Western Digital drives for speed, not Maxtor, Seagate, or Hitachi, although Maxtor now has been using the same 8 Meg cache that WD has been using for some time. The Hitachi drive may be a slower drive, or have less cache, then the older drive you were using. It is important to know the spindle speed of the drive (most nowadays are 7200 RPM), the cache (8 Meg is becoming standard) and the access time of the drive. The faster the access time, the quicker your drive will perform.

One more possibility is that you actually have a poor Windows installation, or a driver causing a problem. Unfortunately, the only way to tell is to reload Windows onto another drive and compare the speeds. I hope I have been informative.


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Response Number 6
Name: jlyon
Date: March 20, 2005 at 17:53:00 Pacific
Reply:

Thanks for the replies. The defrag didn't seem to make much of a difference. It's probably slower access than my last one...not sure though.


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Response Number 7
Name: simonscholey
Date: March 20, 2005 at 23:47:41 Pacific
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defrag is a waste of time. it won't speed a decent spec machine up a jot! its only useful if your drive crashes and you pay a company to recover your data as you might have more luck getting your data back.


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Response Number 8
Name: Dr. Nick
Date: March 21, 2005 at 00:44:42 Pacific
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I'm not sure where you got your information from simonscholey, but you're way wrong.

Regular defragmenting is a simple way to keep your system running smooth. As a volume gets fragmented, everything will start to slow down. Programs load slower, Windows takes longer to start, saving files is more resource intensive (especially large ones). Everything.

You're right that having continuous data is good for recovery, but that's usually the least of anyone's concerns when defragging.

I'd suggest defragging on on a regular basis; at least once a month for a standard home user. I personally defrag my drives every 48-72 hours or so using Diskeeper (the full version of Windows defrag). Because I do it regularily, it usually only takes about 10-15 minutes for each drive, and that's running in the background with a low priority. It does a great job and the benefits are noticeable.


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