problem installing Win on new PC

August 13, 2009 at 03:47:41
Specs: Windows XP
The plot: in BIOS I set CD as first boot device, but not one (of 3 – XP SP1, XP SP3, Vista) Win installation CDs would start, I kept on receiving the same message on the black screen: Reboot and Select proper Boot device or Insert Boot Media in selected Boot Device.
I checked the CDs at my old home PC and at my office PC and they were all OK, they started normally. So I took Linux Ubuntu 7 Live CD, and it booted with no problems, so I formatted the hard drive (Hitachi, 500gb, SATA) using gparted: I set 2 partitions, one as FAT32 and the other as NTFS, then rebooted, inserted Win installation CD, but again I got the black screen along with the: Reboot and Select proper Boot device or Insert Boot Media in selected Boot Device.
It's interesting that all bootable CDs start normally (like Hiren's Tools, KillDisc, all Linux distributions I own...) except Win CD. I even brought installation CD from my work PC, and still nothing, the same message...
I called my vendor, but all I got was the line that they sold me a tested and functional machine, and that I should ask an installation expert for help (?!).
What I'm asking is there a reasonable explanation why Win SetUp won't start, is there anything I can do without plugging my old hard drive into my new PC (I can't do the opposite, for my old motherboard has only IDE slots, and my new hard drive is SATA).

Thanks in advance.


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#1
August 13, 2009 at 04:26:49
You might use the working cdrom and plug it to the nonworking pc just for installing windows.
I guess, that will work for you.

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#2
August 13, 2009 at 05:00:32
I suspect there is a setting in BIOS relating to fastboot or some such that is causing you to either miss or bypass the "Press Any Key to boot from CD" message which is supposed to display for about 10 sec.

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#3
August 13, 2009 at 05:13:02
You might use the working cdrom and plug it to the nonworking pc just for installing windows.
I guess, that will work for you.

I've tried that, didn't work, motherboard doesn't recognize my old cdrom

I suspect there is a setting in BIOS relating to fastboot or some such that is causing you to either miss or bypass the "Press Any Key to boot from CD" message which is supposed to display for about 10 sec.

QuickBoot was Disabled, but even when Enabled I get the same message.

I have MB Asus M2N68, supporting only one IDE drive.


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#4
August 13, 2009 at 05:59:17
Have you also tried to change the setting for the Controller from AHCI to IDE?
This could also help in your case.

Or can you press a function key like F11 or F12 to get a boot selection menu at startup?

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#5
August 13, 2009 at 06:58:13
Have you also tried to change the setting for the Controller from AHCI to IDE? This could also help in your case

It would be easy if I had Gigabyte's MB, but Asus BIOS interface is very poor and I couldn't find that option anywhere. Under IDE config all I found was Enable/Disable option.

Or can you press a function key like F11 or F12 to get a boot selection menu at startup?
Yes I tried that too (it's F8 on Asus) but after the main boot screen:
http://i179.photobucket.com/albums/...

I got this like at the beginning:
http://i179.photobucket.com/albums/...


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#6
August 13, 2009 at 07:28:06
Is you mainboard that old?
Somewhere under Advanced Options, you normally should find such option.

So another question:
Is it possible to boot from lets say a USB Stick?
So you might make a USB Stick bootable, including CDROM driver vor DOS and then install windows by changing to CDROM, change directory (cd \i386) and start windows setup by typing winnt.

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#7
August 13, 2009 at 07:40:45
You think Asus M2N68-AM Plus is old? hm....
here you go the Advanced tab:
http://i179.photobucket.com/albums/...

and after hitting the Onboard Devices
http://i179.photobucket.com/albums/...
there's nothing to choose but some codes/numbers

can't boot from USB, tried that too :(


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#8
August 13, 2009 at 07:45:53
No I didn't think that it's so old but I don't know all the mainboards out of the brain :-)

But I didn't get it, that you can't boot from USB devices. All the new mainboards do support that and Asus is a well known manufacturer.

Also tried factory defaults in the bios.
Maybe there's something missconfigured.

Otherwise, you can make the harddisk dos bootable with dos cdrom driver in config.sys and mscdex.exe in autoexec.bat and do as described above.

If you can !!!

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#9
August 15, 2009 at 01:24:04
Ok, I made some progress.... or not :(

Downloaded the latest Hiren's Boot CD 9.9, that comes with Mini Win XP. It booted normally, so I formatted harddrive via DOS C:\format C:
Then, I copied the installation files to C: and restarted, but when I chose Boot from hard drive option from F8 QuickBoot, all I got was this: NTLDR is missing. Press Ctrl+Alt+Del to restart. OK so I booted with Hiren's CD again, copied NTLDR from i386 folder to the root, restarted but on the next boot I was asked to copy certain hal.dll to System32 folder.

I guess booting directly from harddrive wasn't a good idea...

And yes, I still cannot boot installation straight from CD.


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#10
August 15, 2009 at 06:07:29
Is it possible to get a command prompt, when booted from the Hiren's Boot CD 9.9?
If so, change to drive C:, change into the installation folder you copied to drive C: and then into i386 folder.
Here type winnt to start the installation of windows.

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#11
August 15, 2009 at 07:27:08
Yes it is possible using Commandpromt from the latest Hiren's CD, it's much improved...

Okaaaaay, I did so, but, when installation finished coping files, instead of next step, it got back to the main Welcome screen: what do you want to do....? I tried several times, but the whole thing just looped...
So I restarted, and let the computer boot from whatever it wanted from, and unexpectedly Setup started... I thought, beautiful that's it!!! BUT.... after I pressed ENTER to continue the Setup, I got the message that the hard drive is not ready, and to press F3 to quit the setup :(

So, what I have now, are installation files copied onto formatted hard drive, but Setup does not find it ready... I checked the disc: It's healthy, Active, Primary, NTFS...


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#12
August 15, 2009 at 08:46:49
Yep, I guess that you have to insert the driver disk for SATA controller.
In the status line, for a very short time, something like press F6 for other drivers, is shown. If you press F6 setup want's you to insert driver disk in floppy drive and only searches that driver on floppy drive.
Windows XP SP3 installation CD already includes SATA driver.
So if you have a Windows XP SP3 installation CD, you have to copy all the files to harddisk and start winnt as described above.
Or you have to google on how to integrate your driver into the the normal windows installation cd.

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#13
August 17, 2009 at 10:50:18
it's all set up and running :)

paulsep, THANK YOU very much for your kind replies and patience :)

(sorry if I was annoying or similar)


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