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Paging = Virtual Memory = Swapfile?

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Name: mtlieb
Date: September 29, 2004 at 14:11:59 Pacific
OS: Win XP Home
CPU/Ram: 450MHZ/256MB
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Hi All,

I'm confused about some terminology here, and hopefully some of you XP veterans can straighten me out...

I've set my virtual memory to 384 MB (both min and max) which keeps it at a static value of 1.5 times my physical RAM. However, it is never reported as such, regardless of which program i use to get this information.

I thought that all of these terms were pretty much used interchangeably? Why the difference in these reported numbers?

My Computer...blah,blah...Virtual Memory
Paging File Size for E: (Windows XP) = 384-384 MB

Windows System Information:
Total Virtual Memory = 2.00 GB
Available Virtual Memory = 1.96 GB
Paging File Space = 618.46 MB
Page File = E:\pagefile.sys

Everest:
Swap Space = 618 MB
Virtual Memory = 873 MB

Tuneup Utilities:
Paging, Max. Size = 618.46 MB

Task Manager:
Commit Charge Limit = 633300K
(This of course works out to be 618.46 MB)

Thanks for any input you may provide :)

Jim



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Response Number 1
Name: MICHAEL
Date: September 29, 2004 at 14:41:52 Pacific
Reply:

Why not let windows handle it?


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Response Number 2
Name: Sandman
Date: September 29, 2004 at 14:43:16 Pacific
Reply:

Earlier versions of Windows (Win9x) referred to it as virtual memory. In Windows NT it is called the pagefile.

Hope this helps,
Sandman


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Response Number 3
Name: aasc77
Date: September 29, 2004 at 16:38:02 Pacific
Reply:


Location for virtual memory is the total hard drive space available for a page file. you can have 2 gigs of virtual memory but only a small area currently being used. this is called the page. it’s often called a swap file because its swap back from disk to ram as needed


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Response Number 4
Name: wanderer
Date: September 30, 2004 at 09:26:30 Pacific
Reply:

Here is a little clarity concerning pagefile and swapfile terminology.

First off they are not the same. Both are similiar in that they deal with physical memory and how the OS handles it. Having worked with VMS [digital's OS] the pagefile deals with a process whereas the swapfile is for the entire systems memory management.

Microsoft really is running a swapfile but calls it a pagefile. This is in tune with their philosophy of calling the boot partition where the OS home folder is located and not where the boot files [system]reside. Go figure.

Concerning the values being reported.

I have the same issue and I run NO pagefile. I have 768megs of ram and have run XP for almost 2yrs now with no pagefile. Stable and much faster.

Yet all the utilities report varing sizes of pagefiles. Only conclusion I can come to is they are wrong. Why they can't report this function correctly is a question I still don't have a answer to.


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Response Number 5
Name: C_Legend
Date: September 30, 2004 at 19:25:34 Pacific
Reply:

Virtual memory = RAM + swapfile (aka pagefile)

Everest indicates this -

Swap Space = 618 MB
Virtual Memory = 873 MB

618 + 255 (first meg is conventional memory and ROM areas) = 873

One wonders why it's not 384 instead of 618. I guess XP thinks it knows better than you do - typical.

IMO, Windows is a joke when it comes to its swap space and usage thereof.


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