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Name: fallenint
Date: February 16, 2004 at 12:58:49 Pacific
OS: windows xp media center e
CPU/Ram: Pentium 4 3.2 GHZ
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i have a very fast computer and all of my programs open extremly fast exept for outlook express which can take up to a minute to open i have tryed deleting some of my accounts to see if it makes it any fatser but it doesnt do anything it also only takes up about %14 of the cpu but does it over a period of time so it when i first open it it uses up 11% then in about 10 seconds it uses up another 10 or 11 percent.. Does anyone know what to do? please help me! Thank you in advance



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Response Number 1
Name: DaveyB
Date: February 16, 2004 at 13:04:34 Pacific
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Since yous stated that the computer resources arent fully used, it imply it could be a software problem, simply try re-installing and see if that helps! It seems like the only possible answer to this

Can i use my Windows XP box as a FTP server so i can upload and download information?
I run Windows XP Pro
Have a Static IP
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Response Number 2
Name: svg
Date: February 16, 2004 at 13:10:42 Pacific
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Hi fallenint,

You've probably disabled the Messenger service for safety. Did you use a program like 'Shoot the Messenger' ?
Do you want to turn it back ON?


Davey B,
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Response Number 3
Name: fallenint
Date: February 16, 2004 at 13:18:28 Pacific
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i haventused any programs for outlook ive done nothing at all to it exept for put my email details in ect.. i would install it but it came with my computer do you know anywhere were i can download it preferably for free? thanks in advance (again!)


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Response Number 4
Name: LL
Date: February 16, 2004 at 13:41:58 Pacific
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Response Number 5
Name: Chunko
Date: February 16, 2004 at 13:44:13 Pacific
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Go into:
C:\Documents and Settings\you\Local Settings\Application Data\Identities\{A Very Long Number}\Microsoft\Outlook Express
and delete all EXCEPT THE INBOX.


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Response Number 6
Name: svg
Date: February 16, 2004 at 13:50:56 Pacific
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Windows XP MediaCenterEdition = XP Pro?


I'll tell you how to enable the Messenger service first, and if that works, then you won't need to reinstall Outlook Express off of your XP CD.

Press WinKey+R (that's the Microsoft Logo-FlagKey+R) to get the RUN-box, and type:
services.msc
Look in the list for 'Messenger' & rightclick on it for properties. Set it to 'automatic'.

Also make sure that it's allowed to be used via the Group Policy Editor:
In the RUN-box, type:
gpedit.msc
On the left side, select:
Local Computer Policy
User Configuration
Administrative Templates
Windows Components
Windows Messenger
On the right, look for 'do not allow messenger service to be run'
Set it to 'not configured' if it was enabled.

fyi: REINSTALL OE: ControlPanel>Add/Remove Programs>On the left, select Add Windows Components> OE is in that list; uncheck & apply to uninstall, same procedure to install

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Response Number 7
Name: svg
Date: February 16, 2004 at 13:53:46 Pacific
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Hey LL,

THANX!! nice link!
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Response Number 8
Name: fallenint
Date: February 16, 2004 at 13:54:41 Pacific
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thanks well kind of that mad eit send and recieve faster but it still opens just as slowly


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Response Number 9
Name: fallenint
Date: February 16, 2004 at 13:59:06 Pacific
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thanks alot svg it opens alot faster thanks


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Response Number 10
Name: fallenint
Date: February 16, 2004 at 14:06:22 Pacific
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thanks for the link ll it worked perfectly it opens really fast now


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Response Number 11
Name: svg
Date: February 16, 2004 at 14:06:22 Pacific
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LL is the one to thank!!

Fallenint, if you want to keep the Messenger service disabled for safety, then you can!! Just reverse the things I posted (the services & the gpedit), and then use LL's link. Look for this on there:

Remove MSN Messenger from Outlook Express and Prevent the Delay

explanation on how to do that registry edit:
Get the RUN-box, and type:
regedit
On the left, browse to:
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE
SOFTWARE
Microsoft
Outlook Express <click on this

Then check the right for an entry called
Hide Messenger
If there isn't, then create one:
rightclick on the right side and add a DWORD entry called Hide Messenger
Then rightclick on that newly created one & modify the value: it should be 2 (hexadecimal).
Just close regedit & log off & back on.

OE now flies again. THANX LL !!

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Response Number 12
Name: fallenint
Date: February 16, 2004 at 14:14:43 Pacific
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why is it safer?


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Response Number 13
Name: svg
Date: February 16, 2004 at 14:26:58 Pacific
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The Messenger service is a known security-risk. You can read up on that at this site:

Shoot The Messenger(GRC Gibson Research Center)

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Response Number 14
Name: fallenint
Date: February 16, 2004 at 14:28:14 Pacific
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ok thanks


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Response Number 15
Name: fallenint
Date: February 16, 2004 at 14:30:02 Pacific
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ok so the its only a threat if messenger is running in outlook express right? and using lls way it doesnt let it run in outlook express im pretty sure itas not running in mine but not %100 how can you tell? sorry about all the questions im new with this kind of stuff


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Response Number 16
Name: fallenint
Date: February 16, 2004 at 14:32:50 Pacific
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should i dissable the messenger thing in services.msc?


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Response Number 17
Name: svg
Date: February 16, 2004 at 14:36:29 Pacific
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The messenger service is used by multiple programs, and it'll just open a couple of ports on your computer. Those ports being open is the security-risk. The fact that you are not made aware of this when the service is started by another program, adds to the danger, and the service doesn't end automatically when it's no longer needed, leaving those ports open all the time.
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Response Number 18
Name: svg
Date: February 16, 2004 at 14:37:01 Pacific
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Yep, disable it and apply LL's solution.

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Response Number 19
Name: fallenint
Date: February 16, 2004 at 14:37:22 Pacific
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ok but how can you close the ports what will it affect?


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Response Number 20
Name: fallenint
Date: February 16, 2004 at 14:37:53 Pacific
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ok thanks


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Response Number 21
Name: svg
Date: February 16, 2004 at 14:39:30 Pacific
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Correction: Disable it via gpedit.msc

The ports will be closed if you restart the computer after you have disabled the Messenger service from starting.

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Response Number 22
Name: fallenint
Date: February 16, 2004 at 14:40:19 Pacific
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should i also set windows messenger to do not allow to be run?


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Response Number 23
Name: fallenint
Date: February 16, 2004 at 14:41:53 Pacific
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so in gpedit.msc i dissable both of the messenger things then restart my computer and it will have closed the ports


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Response Number 24
Name: fallenint
Date: February 16, 2004 at 14:44:32 Pacific
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or i enable where it says do not allow windows messenger to run and enable where it says do ot automatically start? sorry about all the questions thats it i swear thanks for answering


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Response Number 25
Name: svg
Date: February 16, 2004 at 14:46:48 Pacific
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Yep, and if you want to check what connections your computer is making, then use this program:
TcpView (SysInternals)
It has a function to 'resolve' IP numbers into the DomainNames, so you see which sites are connecting.

Try GRC's ShieldsUp! test: it will tell you how well/bad your computer is protected port-wise.

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Response Number 26
Name: fallenint
Date: February 16, 2004 at 14:47:50 Pacific
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ok...thanks alot for all your help


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