Slower here too... by lengths The new setup was faster after the transition... but.... I used to prefer to open multiple tabs at a time and by the time I read one the rest have loaded. Nowadays I can open multiple tabs, read one, close it and wait for the next to load, then the next etc. I open one at a time now or multiple if I need to make a coffee. I was shaped by my ip for excess usage and thought it was due to this (it largely was), but when my speed picked up again it didn't improve the site navigation satisfaction by much. For this, my visits here are becoming less frequent.

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Everything here is kinda slow. LOL My discomfort is the color scheme. Mostly light blue and white. A sad end for a site that used to be WAY better looking the the average. I'm already pretty tired of pressing ctrl-a on every page so I can see what's there. ===================================== If at first you don't succeed, you're about average. M2

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Justin, I know this sounds wildly crazy.... but.... how about loyal members with an X amount of posts get the option of classic view minus ads?

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Hey, The delay with longer thread is to be expected. Also, that happened before the switchover. I might be able to do something about that. I'll give it a try. As for the confirm post delay, how often does that occur? Like most of the time, or randomly ever once in a while. Justin

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Wait a minute, Who here that reported a slowness problem is using IE? Justin

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I have Dialup. As for myself, when I get to the 'Confirm Post' page, I want to click the button to get to the next page. Seems to me that the delay in leaving the confirm post page is that that page seems to want to continue loading before departure to the next page. Have done nothing, but all seems faster this morning. ??? EDIT -- OOPS, not for posting this.

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Hey, I did make some changes that predominately affect IE users. I always have used Firefox, so I didn't notice any slowdown. However, IE did seem to be very slow. Justin

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I'm using IE 6.x on both the 98SE and XP computers. lurkswitihin If you're using IE, try using FlashSwitch to toggle Adobe flash off while you are on this site - it disables some of the ads from displaying.

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Guys, I've been browsing around. I think what I did this morning should really speed it up in IE. Justin

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I'm seeing severe slowdown generally on the Web, worse on CN with Internet Explorer errors only on CN. Loading Forum pages is painfully slow, Threads even slower, (this is where the error messages come in) More frequent errors On Hardware vs XP. More errors on XP than Win95/98. Running Celeron 500Mhz, 256mb, IE6 SP1, Win98SE. The IE error message is STRANGE. After waiting for a long thread to load and immediately after the mouse begins to respond to scroll down the page, I get IE Error Popup that freezes the page till I click OK. "Internet Explorer Cannot Open the Page //www.computing.netxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx" The Operation will Terminate" I immediately get the typical Page Not Found error screen. Clicking on the Back button returns me to the page that was not Found, which is fully functional. NOT consisent. I've seen the same slowness on Confirm Post, today being Worse. At first I liked the new Format, now I find myself wishing for the old. Eye strain often convinces me to do something else. I,ve turned down the contrast and brightness on my Monitor but ssometimes I just have to change Sites or walk away for a while. There is nothing to learn from someone who already agrees with you.

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One thing I would like to mention is if you're impatient and click to scroll down too soon on this site, before the the page is ready to do it, it takes even longer before you are able to scroll, especially if you do it more than once before it is ready to scroll. Clues as to when it is ready to scroll - if there is any animation in an ad you can see, wait until you see movement in it - start up notepad, minimize the notepad window, click on the thread here you want to load, restore the notepad window, close it - the notepad window will not disappear until the page is ready to scroll. Dumbob More clues as to when a page here is ready to scroll, for slower computers.. - if there is an ad url at the bottom of your screen in the toolbar, wait till that goes away, plus 5 seconds or more - if there is a bar in the toobar indicating the page has not fully loaded, wait till that goes away, plus 5 seconds or more The computer I use most is 98SE K6-III 450 128mb, Radeon 7000 AGP video card in 2X mode; I usually use IE 6.x Sysoft Sandra rates it's performance as equivalent to ~520mhz because of it's L2 on the cpu and the onboard L2 being used as L3. I've tried 256mb but it doesn't seem to make any significant difference for this site or what I do in general. "I'm seeing severe slowdown generally on the Web..." Same here, on some sites, especially in the past few months. Windows default TCP settings are not ideal. If you haven't already tweaked your TCP settings, improving them makes a noticable difference with slower computers - try TCPOptimizer here: http://www.speedguide.net/downloads... It only needs to be run once, until the next time you run Windows Setup, and it doesn't load anything resident. Since you are using IE, try getting and installing FlashSwitch - if you toggle Adobe flash off with it when on this site, the freezes are much shorter. Once you have flash disabled, try waiting 15 seconds before clicking to scroll on a new or shorter thread. For a longer thread, wait at least 30 seconds. In general, there are many sites you can still navigate in with flash switched off, despite error messages about you not having it or your version is too old. E.g. the Asus web sites display multiple popup windows one after the other if flash is switched off when you want to load a page, but you just Cancel or close them and can still navigate fine. If you edit a post of yours that is in a longer thread, if you don't need to go back to the thread, click on Computing.Net instead of going back to the thread, to avoid having to wait for the longer thread to load. I think your errors are unique to your situation. I was getting occaisional "Internet Explorer needs to close" or similar errors on my old 98SE installation, but I'm not getting those now on a fairly fresh install of 98SE on the same computer, on another physical drive. "Eye strain often convinces me to do something else." What resolution are you using? I'm using 800 x 600 and that's not too bad.

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Justin Whatever you did seems to have improved the situation in IE. Thanks.

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Seems to be a script issue, maybe a link issue? "Best Practices", Event viewer, host file, perfmon, antivirus, anti-spyware, Live CD's, backups, are in my top 10

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I came on here tonight to look at posts and it's so slow on my new computer but other sites are loading fast for me. I was wondering if it was my end or what. Mary

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It is 9:25 Eastern Daylight Time here and right now the site is running like dialup.

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Tubesandwires, Thanks, I will try the flashswitch....I hate issues with flash because I play online speedchess and the flash is needed to play. If it acts up even the tiniest bit I lose on time default... Definition of a Liberal: He has never had to fight for his Freedom He is only good at enjoying it! "IF YOU DON'T STAND BEHIND OUR TROOPS, PLEASE, FEEL FREE TO STAND IN FRONT OF THEM

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well, excuse me.....spoke too soon! Justin must have fixed the add server...I got no adds now! Thanks Justin, Much Better! The loading is much faster as well...even on large post threads. I was really getting upset over that as I clock my dowmloads @ 14529 kbps. Closer to 15500 late nights! Definition of a Liberal: He has never had to fight for his Freedom He is only good at enjoying it! "IF YOU DON'T STAND BEHIND OUR TROOPS, PLEASE, FEEL FREE TO STAND IN FRONT OF THEM

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"I clock my dowmloads @ 14529 kbps. Closer to 15500 late nights!" Where are you getting those figures from? I think you're looking in the wrong place. ..... Another clue as to when a page here is ready to scroll - better still - click on the thread here you want to load, then start up notepad - the notepad window will not appear until the page is ready to scroll. Most of the time pages are now loading a lot faster - faster than they were before the new look (when I have flash toggled off with FlashSwitch, even before the ads disappered)

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I have a great ISP. Their basic offer was for 5,000kbps but they raised it to 8,000kbps. I have a higher tier and they raised me to 12,000kbps but I get a lot better than that. I use a server from 300 miles away using speakeasy speed test> Last Result: Download Speed: 14795 kbps (1849.4 KB/sec transfer rate) Upload Speed: 551 kbps (68.9 KB/sec transfer rate) Upload is a tad slower than i would like to have but it is sufficient http://www.speakeasy.net/speedtest/ This is from a server 2,000 miles away: Last Result: Download Speed: 10026 kbps (1253.3 KB/sec transfer rate) Upload Speed: 557 kbps (69.6 KB/sec transfer rate) Definition of a Liberal: He has never had to fight for his Freedom He is only good at enjoying it! "IF YOU DON'T STAND BEHIND OUR TROOPS, PLEASE, FEEL FREE TO STAND IN FRONT OF THEM

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Justin, What the heck....the adds seem to be turned off on this page but when I go to another thread they pop back up! Definition of a Liberal: He has never had to fight for his Freedom He is only good at enjoying it! "IF YOU DON'T STAND BEHIND OUR TROOPS, PLEASE, FEEL FREE TO STAND IN FRONT OF THEM

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Hey, I never took down any ads. I'm not sure why they weren't showing up for you before. Thanks, Justin

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Justin When I made response 24, there was merely a blank box at the top of the page where an ad norally is, a red X in it top left. That's with FlashSwitch toggling flash off, but there is normally always an ad there in any case. lurkswithin Apparently you do have an excellent ISP. I use an internet package rated at 1,500kbps max. When I went to that speakeasy speed test site just now, chose a server in Washington (I'm in Alberta, Canada) the results I get are 1292kpbs download and 259kbps upload. 161kb/sec, 32.4kb/sec

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Hey, We're still working on this issue. I've done some things that should speed up the site, but certainly everything that can be done hasn't been done yet. It will be though. Thanks, Justin

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Tubesandwires, You were correct, the error messages were related to a .SWP file that was not working. Had it set to Let Windows Manage, but the Swap file was empty 0 Files. I opened Everest Home to find Memory usage at 92% (of 256mb) Swap file usage (0),Idling on CN Hardware Forum. Hdd has 5.46GB free, ???? Only way I could get Swap file to work was set it's size as 800mb. Wish I'd have found this before Justin made changes that affect IE. Not sure how much effect either one had. guess it really doesn't matter why, but the errors are gone and the site runs much faster. Also found that Avast Free consumes about 40% of available Ram. Damn, everybody wants to use more RAM, but I'm maxxed out at 256mb. Gotta put avast on a diet. What ever happened to the old (really old) RAM adapters that allowed 2 simms in one Slot. Haven't tried the TCP Optimizer yet, thanks for the link though. Got it downloaded. Justin, Thanks for whatever you did with IE. Everythig working better today, even Submit Follow up. jam, Thanks for bringing this up, I thought It was all my machine. Saved me from having to shop for a new system right now when $$$ are scarce. There is nothing to learn from someone who already agrees with you.

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Dumbob In my experience you won't see any difference in performance on a 500mhz computer in 98SE even if you could add more ram than you already have. In fact 128mb is fine, or a bit more if you have onboard video (say, 32 or 64 mb). I found through testing with Sysoft Sandra the minumun you need to use for 98SE to have Windows work as it should is 96mb - any less than that will not allow your hard drive to achieve it's full maximum speed. "What ever happened to the old (really old) RAM adapters that allowed 2 simms in one Slot." They pretty much disappeared within a few years after DIMMs first came out, by the mid 90's. Do you have 72 "pin" SIMMS on this mboard? If you do... - you would need two adapters, not one, and two more SIMMs of the same size. I have one on which you can install 4 30 "pin" simms of the same size into a 72 "pin" slot. I have never seen or heard of one for DIMMs (168 "pin"). That's an odd swap file problem. Maybe Windows "thinks" the amount of free space is too small when it's set to automatic? 5.46gb out of how many? What size is the partition Windows is on? I have my older 98SE installation on a ~8gb partition, and it's swap file is on another entire 500mb partition by itself on the same hard drive. When there is less than about 800mb freespace left on the partition Windows is on, Windows (98SE) begins to start to run slower. I used to have the swap file set to use an entire 200mb parition on the same drive and that works okay too, but I found when I have a lot of .jpg files images from a digital camera open at the same time, that wasn't enough. I'm still using AVG 7.5 for 98SE - they haven't stopped supporting it as of yet. I installed Avast on someone else's 98SE computer, 400mhz I believe. It didn't seem to hog the cpu like you're saying. You might have something else going on. Try disabling Avast if you can and see what the load is then.

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Well I finally gave in and done something about the very sluggish performance with computing.net and IE. I have now downloaded Opera browser and modified my preferences so it now opens pages immediately without all the flashy ads. "Tools" > "Preferences" > "Advanced" tab > "Content" option on left. Unchecked the following: * Enable animated images * Enable sound ion web pages * Enable JavaScript * Enable Java * Enable Plug-Ins It's a real shame that I now have a dedicated browser to visit only one site.

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btk1w1 I get quite a bit of improvement by simply using FlashSwitch to toggle off Adobe flash in IE when on this site, rather than having to cripple all those things. .... The improvements seen for a few days earlier due to changes made by Justin are no longer as evident. The delays for me since in IE 6.x in Win 98SE on my 450mhz K6-III have been less than they were before Justin made the changes, but more than during the first few days after he made the changes.

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