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Name: c0ugar
Date: October 30, 2001 at 15:06:33 Pacific
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Hi,
I have a desktop pc and a laptop that I want to link (share connection), I bought a hub (netgear 4 ports model DS104). There's a plug on a network card of the laptop connected on the first port of the hub. Now, I want to plug my pc to the hub (network card - I have a DSL connection) how do I have to plug it ?
And is there something to do in windows ? like a program to setup or something like that ?
thanx alot



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Response Number 1
Name: evolive
Date: October 30, 2001 at 15:22:49 Pacific
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im not great with networking.. but if you have a hub... then i think you should be fine... maybe you are plugging things wrong or so into the hub.... so i think you should hook the cable from the dsl to the first hole in the hub and then connect the rest in the other... or if you hub says something like uplink or so then plub the dsl cable in there... and no it's not xp... it's the way you hooked up the hub... (as far as i know :-P) in any case... umm.. lucks oh and.. and try to have it the same domain :)
bye


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Response Number 2
Name: mike
Date: October 30, 2001 at 21:26:59 Pacific
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get a second network card for your pc.. plug your modem into one card plug the other card into port 2.. plug your laptop into port 3 on the hub.. run windows home networking wizard on both pc's and it should assign the ips autpmatically it did for mine.. if it doesnt work out they will have to be set manually. post back here if it doesnt work. this is the easiest route to go


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Response Number 3
Name: ncritch
Date: October 31, 2001 at 09:37:40 Pacific
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If you are trying to hook up a dsl and a hub, you will need to use a crossover cable. form the Dsl and the hub. All the others computer are hook up to the hub with normal ethernet cables. Then if all computers have the same workgroup name. All computer will see each. Have fun.


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Response Number 4
Name: Andy
Date: October 31, 2001 at 11:29:46 Pacific
Reply:

cOugar,

Everyone has their own throw in here but everyone's off by a little. You also need to supply some more information. I know you have 2 pc's basically, a hub and a DSL modem (actually called a router). If you want to share the internet connection so that both pc's can access the internet, then there are 2 routes you can go. If your ISP has actually given you 2 ip's that you can use, then you're all set (whether the ip's are static or not, it shouldn't matter because if your ISP is assigning them, it will assign them to the same subnet). If you do not have 2 ip's from your DSL ISP and you only have one, then you will need to purchase a DSL router (this device will allow you to setup your internal network with non-routable ip's but will be able to route data to the correct computer inside your network and connect it with computers outside the network "internet"). These usually cost around $100.00

If you do have 2 - ip address, do this...
Use a regular patch ethernet cable (CAT5) to go from pc1 to port 1 on the hub (doesn't matter which pc). Then use another regular patch ethernet cable to go from pc2 to port 2 on the hub. Then once again use a regular patch ethernet cable to go from the last port on the hub (should be labeled uplink) to the port on the DSL modem. You will never need a crossover cable for this because the uplink port on the hub does the crossing over (sorry ncritch, didn't mean to shoot you down :)
Then you have to setup your network settings on both pc's whether you obtain the IP automatically from the ISP (DHCP) or set it statically. If it's static, you will also need to enter DNS info and other Gateway address. You will need to get this info from your ISP. If it's setup DHCP, then you should be done and good to go.

If you don't have 2 ip addresses from your ISP...
Purchase the DSL router. Use a regular patch ethernet cable to connect PC1 to port1 on the hub. Use another patch ethernet cable to connect PC2 to port2 on the hub. Use another regular patch ethernet cable to connect the last port on the hub (labeled uplink) to port1 on the DSL router. Then use another regular patch ethernet cable to connect the last port on the DSL Router (also labeled uplink) to port1 on the DSL Modem (usually only one port). Then of course from the other port on the DSL modem to your wall outlet. Now, you have to set the DSL router up using whatever software it comes with (usually web access) to configure it to connect to your ISP. If the ISP assigns your ip address for you (DHCP) then you won't need to configure anything probably. Then you need to set a static ip on both your computers. On the first one (doesn't matter which) set the ip to 192.168.0.1
You can do this by right clicking on network neighborhood and choosing properties. Then right clicking on local area network and choosing properties. Then highlight internet protocol tcp/ip and choose properties.
Then set your 2nd pc to 192.168.0.2
Both subnets should autofill with 255.255.255.0
which is fine (class c network).
Then you should be all set.
You might have to do some configuring on the network settings of the pc but again it depends on your ISP.
If you need further help, feel free to email me, I troubleshoot these daily.
:-)

Andy


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Response Number 5
Name: mike
Date: October 31, 2001 at 17:40:52 Pacific
Reply:

hi again.. everyone has there preference and thats fine, but the reason i suggested 2 nic's in one comp was because my lame ass isp (dccnet) here in southwestern bc caps your usage at 1 gig up 5 gig down. by using the uplink port on the hub for your dsl connection and plugging the comps into any of the other 4 hubs (assuning it is a 5 port hubby) will cause your data between the 2 computers to go over the net and back to the other computer, thus using precious up/down quota. by using 3 cards for 2 comps your comps will share information between each other and still share the same internet connection. i let my isp assign my ip's and xp did an amazing kob setting up the rest but i do believe you can do it wih one ip by assigning the ips manually for the cards connecting the two comps together and letting your isp assign your internet card in the server comp.. by setting the default gateway on the client computer to that of the internet card... you will be able to access the internet on both with one assigned ip.. be sure that the ips for the other cards are 192.168.0.1 and 192.168.0.2 and set each subnet to the same.. thats my understandiung anyways.. feel free to correct me if im wrong guys


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Response Number 6
Name: Andy
Date: November 28, 2001 at 16:33:19 Pacific
Reply:

Mike,

I see where your coming from but most people do not have that much bandwidth and if you do, then instead of getting 2 nic cards in one pc (just not really a good practice, especially for most people that have multiple pc's) you should just get a switch. You are correct that a hub will share the bandwidth with everyone that is connected to it, but a switch will not. A switch is dedicated at 100mb for each and every port. They are only 20 dollars or so more than a hub. This would be the best route to go. XP or the router can and will assign address in the scheme of 169.254.xxx.xxx which is non routable but it's a class B address. This allows 255 X 255 devices on the network which equals 65,025. This allows for a lot of searching and broadcasting that is unecessary for smaller home networks. That is why it is better to assign the 192.168.0.xxx. This only allows 255 devices on the network and thus is much more efficient. Hope this helps!


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Response Number 7
Name: ben
Date: December 6, 2001 at 01:54:20 Pacific
Reply:

Hi all. I'm having a problem with one machine when I try and conigure XP to use DHCP with ICS (Internet Connection Sharing).

Instead if picking up the
standard 192.168.x.x and 255.255.255.0 details from the DHCP server it is getting something
totally different, and thus, does not function properly on my lil 'ol
network. It is almost as if it can't find the DHCP server and assigns
itself a random IP (169.254.112.207), with a subnet of 255.255.0.0

I've checked cables, they're ok. If I manually set the IP/subnet it sort of
works, but I can't browse web. most irritating.

Any ideas what might cause this?

Cheers,


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