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Hi
i have 2 Computers each with its own NIC card.
using a wisecom 5-port 10/100m n-way switch
Broadband cable internet. all channeled into Switch.Main computer(one with the Registered internet connection ) [uses WinXP]
2nd/Client [uses WinMe]/Both computers are..
/Renamed and workgrouped
/all hardware working & tested/Network
/going to be used as internet gaming.
/NOT going to share files or/and folders/The problem
Cant Get both Computers connected to the Internet, i have used Programs such as sygate/wingate/analogx/winrouteSygate is the only one thats really worked.
Until i switch everything off then on, settings seem to disapear and cant connect either one or the other or both.I know i have to set something manually.
i have very little knowledge of what tho.
If anyone could guide me , as i am a bit dumbP.S Baby talk is welcome..lol
cheers
I think the mistake you are making is in trying to use a switch as a router. A switch is not capable of sharing an internet connection directly from the modem. You need to connect the modem to one PC (Host) and then from a second NIC in the Host, connect either to the switch or direct to the second PC using crossover cable. Then enable Internet Connection sharing
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hi again thx for reply,
it has worked before, and i have read many guides, switch can be used, and a router can be software such as winroute/wingate/sygate etcSo many people saying so many different things, no wonder im confoosed...lol
hulp!
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I presume you have:
Broadband
Switch
to PCA
to PCBI agree with Richard59 not workable as PCA and PCB and Broadband has no way of knowing which data belongs to whom.
The rcommended setup is:
Braodband
Router
to PCA
to PCBAlternatively:
Broadband
PCA
Internet Connection Sharing to PCB
Start here:
http://compnetworking.about.com/od/homenetworkhardware/f/routervsswitch.htm
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thx for reply p&s
Had a read through it, It is impossible to take it in though, as i cannot understand why i had both PCs conencted to the internet, with just a switch. and sygate,
as stated on that link above " neither hubs nor switches are capable of joining multiple networks or sharing an Internet connection. "
q/1 Can Routers be hardware and software?
q/2 If not, why o why, did i have both working at same time?o_0
thx
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fergie_uk,
Sygate or other “Software Routers” wouldn’t be able to provide you with Internet Connection Sharing consistently because Sygate depends on Your ISP’s DNS Server to assign IP address information to the computers sharing the internet connection via Sygate. Sygate keeps only the information for your ISP's Primary DNS server. If that server goes down, Sygate doesn't know how to switch to the backup servers and hence the intermittent or erratic Internet connection loss you are experiencing. You wouldn’t have this problem if you use a hardware router.
For detailed explanation and some troubleshoot information you may check Sygate DNS problems
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as stated on that link above " neither hubs nor switches are capable of joining multiple networks or sharing an Internet connection. "
I haven't read that but the quote you posted is erroneous. Both hubs and switches ARE capable of joining multiple networks. However, I wouldn't use a hub, they're dumb (ie: they broadcast to all ports). We use many many managed switches at my workplace and we have multiple networks running on each via VLAN tagging.
Q1: Both. If you use ICS on your windows PC and have two NIC's (ie: one to the internet, one to your switch) it will route internally between the two.
Q2: You got lucky. A switch could share the internet if it had NAT technology built into it. Case in point: "highspeed internet routers" that you can purchase for home use aren't really routers. They're a switch with both NAT and firewall technology added to them. Not the same thing as a real router in the sense that I use the term (I'm a network technician....routers and switches etc are what I do). While capable of some very basic routing.....they're not up to being used as a router in a large LAN/WAN environment. They're designed solely to provide home users with an inexpensive way to get multiple computers to share one internet connection and be firewalled from intrusion.
Sygate or other “Software Routers” wouldn’t be able to provide you with Internet Connection Sharing consistently because Sygate depends on Your ISP’s DNS Server to assign IP address information to the computers sharing the internet connection via Sygate.....
No advice is better than bad advice!
Sygate is Proxy software (look up proxy at webopedia.com or any one of the numerous other sites that provide info on networking technologies). Proxy is NOT the same thing as routing. I would explain it but you should go look it up....it's easier on me!
Sygate doesn't depend on your ISP's DNS server to provide IP addressing. That's a different service called DHCP (again, go to webopedia or google). What your ISP's DNS server does for you is resolve requests outside the local zone. What that means is, when you click on a web link, the request goes out to your ISP's DNS server who passes it along to another DNS server until one resloves it and sends the info back which appears on your screen as the web page.
You obvioulsy didn't read the link you posted first as it says the same thing I just did.
Back to the original question. Your setup should look as follows:
Highspeed > Modem > External NIC on PC running ICS > Internal NIC on PC running ICS > switch > second PC
Your multihomed (the PC with dual NIC's) PC should be running ICS to allow the other client to connect to the internet.
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