Netbook memory decreases as I remove files.

Hewlett-packard / Hp mini 110 1062tu
November 17, 2010 at 01:11:45
Specs: Windows Vista
My HP Mini has just 16 Gigs of hard drive. Recently it told me that the storage space was getting low. It had about 200 MB remaining. I started looking for files to delete. Each time I deleted a file, I checked to see what the balance was. Each time I removed something the remining space went DOWN instead of up. What gives?

I see some posts from a year or so ago. Is this likely the same issue (it seemed perhaps it would be about the recovery allocation), or are there new issues with these net books?

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November 17, 2010 at 03:41:53
Empty your recycle bin.

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November 17, 2010 at 10:10:40
Thanks. I had already done that each time I deleted a file.

Added information: it has now gotten below 100KB of free space.

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November 17, 2010 at 10:16:21
Are you using any third party apps from Symantec? How much space are we talking about each time?

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November 17, 2010 at 10:39:18
Not using symantec. Virus protection is AWG. Each time I deleted something the amount of available space went down by 50 MB or so (and not up by the 300 MB of what I deleted).

I also have checked the system restore (suggested in prior thread on similar topic) and it is turned off.

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November 17, 2010 at 11:13:59
To be clear about something. Until you empty the recycle bin the space isn't actually freed up.

Sure sounds like you have a third party program running.

Is the space recovered after a reboot?

If you are downloading stuff from a Peer to Peer site it may not allow removal or may be storing a second copy to share.

What type of files are these?

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November 17, 2010 at 11:17:59
go to accessories, system tools, disk cleanup. Check everything and then run it.

What are the results?

Please post the results of a chkdsk [via cmd prompt] for review.

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November 17, 2010 at 11:44:00
I understand about the recycle bin. You have to go and empty it to get the space. I did that.

The space is not recovered after reboot. It now doesn't find my personal profile information on restart, and immediately warns of extremely low disc space.

I am sending this on a different computer.

No peer to peer downloading going on.

I ran check disk from the system tools. It said it would run on restart. I restarted and it did some stuff. I turned away, and when I looked back it had finished and was at the log-on screen. No results to post.

I will try chkdsk from the command prompt. Probably not able to copy and paste the result because it will not load explorer. Will type it in here and send.

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November 18, 2010 at 00:57:30
I did the chkdsk from the 'run' box and got the same result. Nothing that is in a format that I could post here. Is there a way to run it differently and see a result?

A couple of other things. My disc is 15 gigs. When I add up the size of the five folders that are in the C Drive, they total 7.5 gigs. What is happening with the other 7.5?

Oh, and the chkdsk, when it was running it said 'warning, no F parameter specified, ckdsk is read only'. Any idea what that means?

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November 18, 2010 at 07:32:36
Does CHKDSK report any errors? The "F" parameter as well as other CHKDSK options is explained if you type "CHKDSK/?"at the command prompt.

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November 18, 2010 at 07:47:43
You didn't state what type of files these are. 300MB files are fairly good size. Maybe knowing the file type will help with solving the issue.

In response to your analysis of total file size. There are other considerations. First of all, not all files are showing by default. You can reset the options to show system files.

Then there is something called slack space. That is the unused portion of a cluster that holds a file smaller than the cluster size.

Slack space can be substantial if you are using FAT 32. Below is a chart of the default cluster sizes for FAT32 and NTFS.

Cluster sizes

for FAT32 are as follows:
512MB to 8,191MB = 4KB
8,192MB to 16,383MB = 8KB
16,384MB to 32,767MB = 16KB
Larger than 32,768MB = 32KB

NTFS - All partitions on a PC = 4KB default

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November 18, 2010 at 07:58:30
you don't run chkdsk from the run. It just disapears. You go to run and type in cmd then hit enter. THEN you type chkdsk and hit enter.

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November 18, 2010 at 09:36:23
Firstly, thanks for your messages. It feels good to know there are helpful people out there.

Here is what I have now found out:
The file system is NTFS.
The results of the CHKDSK are as follows:

15750708 KB total disk space
15087112 KB in 154098 files
84416 KB in 42481 indexes
0 KB in bad sectors
307728 KB in use by the system
65536 KB occupied by the log file
271452 KB available on disk

4096 bytes in each allocation unit
3937677 total allocation unitys on disk
67863 allocation units available on disk

When it had finished running CHKDSK I went back and looked again at the free space. It was magically back up to 262 MB. Could CHKDSK have caused this change?

My virus protection, AVG Free 9.0 (version 9.0.864) indicated that it was out of date so I clicked 'update'. It needed to download 14 MB. I told it to go ahead.

While it was doing the update I got another 'low disk space' message.

Then I got a 'very low disk space' message.

The update completed. Free space was now showing 148 MB.

I went exploring and managed to view the file sizes. I told it to show all hidden files and system files.

I again totaled the folder sizes, finding the ones I could view (using mouse-over because it doesn't actually list folder sizes) now significantly lower in total than before.

There were two large system files that became visible:
pagefile with 1,560,576 KB, and
hiberfil with 1,039,668 KB

There is also a folder called 'System Rollback Data' that shows a different size each time I roll my mouse over it. It started out saying it is >4.86 MB, then later >681 MB.

I think that is everything.

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November 18, 2010 at 10:04:31
Page file is virtual memory that is allocated on the hard drive. This is usually best managed by Windows.

Look at the link below for information on hiberfil.

Did you perform the first operation in #6 above?

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November 18, 2010 at 14:50:42
I would run chkdsk /f if you haven't already. It will require reboot and take a little while to complete, just before Windows restarts. It will fix errors if any. Note the space before the /f

[Just for info, although from the Run box you should first type cmd and hit the Return key, I have never had any problem with it running by just typing it straight into the Run box. I believe this is because the chkdsk command is now integrated into Windows]

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November 21, 2010 at 11:55:57
Hi All
We resolved the problem by disabling 'hibernate'. This gives us 1.5 GB of disk space, and now everything seems to be working normally. Of course, we don't know if this fixed the problem or just delayed it. Is it possible that the initial situation was caused by an enlarging hibernate file, so by turning that off we sort the problem? I am going to run the disk clean-up anyway to see what happens.

Thanks for all your help.

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November 21, 2010 at 15:20:45
OK, thx for popping back to let us know - hope it works out for you.

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