Hello .NET Framework vigin here! I don't even know what it is or does, but I cannot install security update for Microsoft .NET Framework version 1.0 SP3 (KB928367) or Security Update for Microsoft .NET Framework version 1.1 SP1 (KB928366) OR version 2.0 SP1 (KB110806)!! I have no idea what these are or even what .NET Framework is! Any help would be appreciated. ps It will download but installation fails but doesn't tell me why. Thanks in advance. Libby

If you're not using applications that require the .net framework, you don't need to have it installed; nor the updates. If you wish to install it, you can get it here: http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/... You'll need to make sure that the Windows installer is version 3.0 or 3.1 before installing the .net framework. Life's more painless for the brainless.

Jennifer - Good morning Just an FYI in case you didn't know ... it's not just the applications it's also software we install that require having Net framework installed & in use (I found out the hard way myself). i_Xp/VistaUser

Applications...software... semantics. :) Life's more painless for the brainless.

You probably can't install those updates until .Net Framework 1.1 has been installed. By default they are listed in the Optional updates on the Microsoft Update web site, not in the suggested Security and Critical updates they always show you. If they are listed in the suggested updates, you already have .Net Framework 1.1 installed; if they aren't, you don't, and you don't need to install them. There are several .Net Framework versions - 1.0 appears to be built into XP with SP2 updates though you have to dig around to find that out; 1.1, 2.0, and 3.0 are required by some programs. 1.1 and 2.0 need several updates as well if they have been installed - not many require 3.0 yet. One 2.0 update has a bug that results in you getting a Logon screen while booting even if there is only one user - the other one removes that if there is only one user . The different versions are independant of one another and different programs may require different versions, so installing a higher version number doesn't require you un-install lower numbered versions, or un-install lower numbered versions itself. Often, if a program that needs a version of it is installed from a CD, it will automatically install a .Net Framework version if it is required. E.g. ATI video chipset drivers do that. Some "video drivers" (e.g. for ATI video chipsets) require a .Net Framework version be installed - if they are installed from a CD, the required version is often installed too automatically, but if you install "video driver" downloads obtained from the web, you may have to install the .Net Framework version required yourself. e.g. for ATI video chipsets, a .Net Framework version of 1.1 or 2.0 is required for the Catalyst software that comes with the "video drivers". In that case you can look at the installation directions on the same page as where you get the "video drivers" to find which version is required, or look at the the release notes for the Catalyst version, which may state a newer version is required than the installation directions do. (I'm labelling them "video drivers" because it's almost always the case they're not just the display drivers - there are almost always associated programs that come with the actual display drivers) If you don't actually need a .Net Framework version , it is "bloatware" - they take up a lot of hard drive space - e.g. 2x mb.

Netframe is not an upgrade type of software. Some programs may require 1x, 2x, 3x. It depends on which version the application is based on. In some cases you may need all three. Below are the listings in my Add/Remove programs list Microsoft .NET Framework 1.1 Microsoft .NET Framework 1.1 Hotfix (KB928366) Microsoft .NET Framework 2.0 Service Pack 1 Microsoft .NET Framework 3.0 Service Pack 1

Othehill, I hate to be the bearer of bad news but sooner or later you will find yourself downloading & installing ... Microsoft .NET Framework 3.5. BTW wikipedia has a nice "everything you want to know but are too undaunted to ask" article about .Net Framework here... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.NET_F... i_Xp/VistaUser