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Missing harddrive space

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Name: kogan31
Date: August 1, 2006 at 23:16:30 Pacific
OS: Win XP
CPU/Ram: 1gb
Comment:

Hi,

I'm using a western digital 40gb HDD i just did a reformat/reinstall. I notice that i lost around 2gb of HDD space. I'm using 5.5gb but the properties shows that i am using 7.4gb. Any ideas?

Thank you



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Response Number 1
Name: Richard59
Date: August 2, 2006 at 03:00:34 Pacific
Reply:

What are you using to determine on one hand that you are using 5.5gb but on other it is 7.4?
By "properties" do you mean in My Computer> rightclick on your C drive and select properties tab? Is that where your used space is reported as 7.4gb? What about the unused space? What figure is given and what is the total disk size reported by windows?


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Response Number 2
Name: Chuck 2
Date: August 2, 2006 at 09:01:50 Pacific
Reply:

HARDDRIVE SIZE:
Decimal vs. Binary:
For simplicity and consistency, hard drive manufacturers define a megabyte as 1,000,000 bytes and a gigabyte as 1,000,000,000 bytes. This is a decimal (base 10) measurement and is the industry standard. However, certain system BIOSs, FDISK and Windows define a megabyte as 1,048,576 bytes and a gigabyte as 1,073,741,824 bytes. Mac systems also use these values. These are binary (base 2) measurements.
To Determine Decimal Capacity:
A decimal capacity is determined by dividing the total number of bytes, by the number of bytes per gigabyte (1,000,000,000 using base 10).

To Determine Binary Capacity:
A binary capacity is determined by dividing the total number of bytes, by the number of bytes per gigabyte (1,073,741,824 using base 2).

In other words, for example---
The Decimal Capacity of a 40GB HDD is
40GB
The Binary Capacity is
37.25GB

My 60GB HDD is 55.78

OR see
http://www.computing.net/windowsxp/wwwboard/forum/145975.html


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Response Number 3
Name: ccfrank
Date: August 2, 2006 at 09:44:25 Pacific
Reply:

Western Digital and many other HD manufactors calculate 1gb as: 1000mb whereas your PC calculates 1gb as 1024mb.. thus the difference.

Don't ask me why.. it is just the way things are.

best of luck Frank :


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Response Number 4
Name: silindro
Date: August 2, 2006 at 10:02:12 Pacific
Reply:

If you guys want to have some real fun, go to an electronics store like Circuit City or Best Buy and ask them to explain that you. Hilarity ensues.


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Response Number 5
Name: Stryker
Date: August 2, 2006 at 10:59:34 Pacific
Reply:

yeah silindro....their answer is "the box says its a 100 GIG drive...so you get 100 GIGs of space to use...."


WRONG

what is really fun is to listen in while someone asks the "agent" a question and you get to correct the agent in front of the customer.

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Response Number 6
Name: Woof
Date: August 2, 2006 at 11:08:44 Pacific
Reply:

Lol, I did that in pc world with a friend who wanted to buy a digital camera, asistant said it was a 5 megapixel camera and I said yes but thats interpolated, confused the hell out of the poor kid, he had to go call his supervisor :) We did buy a camera but not the one he tried to sell us, got a "proper" 5MP one for less money

Woof

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Response Number 7
Name: Stryker
Date: August 2, 2006 at 11:24:05 Pacific
Reply:

Funny.

but what goes around comes around...over the years there have been times when I was corrected in front of people...it sucks...but just take it as a learning experience.

Everyday I learn something new...I like it...but I didn’t get to my position by NOT learning and letting some things go...

That’s just in case someone gets mad at what I posted….don’t get me wrong…I’ve only done it a few times, normally to help the customer and or computer guy save face…I wait or don’t say anything at all.


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Response Number 8
Name: kogan31
Date: August 3, 2006 at 01:28:34 Pacific
Reply:

yeap i know about the 1bit=8 byte stuffs and the calculations, i've studied that.. but no matter how i calculate i'm still losing 2gb of free space as shown to me when i right click my c:> properties


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Response Number 9
Name: kogan31
Date: August 3, 2006 at 01:32:50 Pacific
Reply:

i've had this problem for quite sometime.. it seems that when i do a add/remove program from control panel and uninstalled something, the space wont be shown as free space.. for example i uninstall a game called warcraft 3 which is appro 1.03gb after i do a uninstall i wont get my 1.03gb free space. It wont show on c:>right click> properties.


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Response Number 10
Name: Chuck 2
Date: August 3, 2006 at 07:43:40 Pacific
Reply:

Though out this post you have made no Replies to
what anybody has said, or asked, except to comment at the end.

One thing is that you did not answer the question in Response Number 1, which is--

What are you using to determine on one hand that you are using 5.5gb but on other it is 7.4?

It is now clear you are determining 7.4 from
c:>right click> properties.
But how are you arriving at 5.5 ??

I am wondering that if a program is remove, the data is still on the HDD because all such data is recoverable, until overwritten. So maybe then space is not freed because of that.

I am also wondering if Defragging the HDD would show more free space ??

Also would a Quick Format, vs Full Format, affect avialable space ??


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Response Number 11
Name: Woof
Date: August 3, 2006 at 09:42:21 Pacific
Reply:

Download the trial version of treesize pro, run it and then you can see exactly where your hard drive space is, It`s a very useful tool I use a lot myself

Woof

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Response Number 12
Name: Woof
Date: August 3, 2006 at 09:42:52 Pacific
Reply:

Oops forgot the link!!!

http://www.jam-software.com/treesize/

Woof

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