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Name: AlbaneseInc
Date: May 18, 2003 at 22:35:26 Pacific
OS: XP pro
CPU/Ram: 1.5
Comment:

Messenger is always on! I have unchecked, "run messenger when windows starts." It didn't do anything. I do not want to rename the folder as this short circuits the prog. I want to be able to log in and out when I want to. Can anyone help me?



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Response Number 1
Name: David
Date: May 18, 2003 at 22:40:21 Pacific
Reply:

Isnt it annoying? Go to Control Panel Folder ... open Administrative tools .... choose Services ....find Messenger on the list....left Click and choose Properties....under Setup Type choose Disabled .... under Service Status click Stop..... messenger service is stopped for good


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Response Number 2
Name: Gary Van Put
Date: May 18, 2003 at 23:32:47 Pacific
Reply:

Are you talking about 'Messenger' (The gizmo that sends messages directly to your desktop, in which case David's advice above will sort it out), or 'Windows Messenger' from your programmes list?


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Response Number 3
Name: Scott
Date: May 19, 2003 at 02:33:44 Pacific
Reply:

I am talking about Windows Messenger. The instant messaging program. Will David's advice help me disable it's auto-run feature?


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Response Number 4
Name: Scott
Date: May 19, 2003 at 02:36:10 Pacific
Reply:

Also, I want to be able to use the prog, but ONLY when I log in. I don't want it to just log me in because I am connected to the internet or just because my computer is on.


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Response Number 5
Name: Tbird4point6LX97
Date: May 19, 2003 at 05:54:03 Pacific
Reply:

download XP Anti-Spy
this will allow you to finally turn it off from starting at boot up and you can still use it when you want...sometimes you may have to go back into anti-spy and re check the "disable autostart"...it works pretty good....


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Response Number 6
Name: Gary Van Put
Date: May 19, 2003 at 09:05:27 Pacific
Reply:

If you have stopped Windows Messenger from...'Tools'...'Options'., and unchecked 'run this programme when windows starts' and 'allow this programme to run in the background', then what will overide these settings is going into Microsoft Outlook.

To disable the programme starting when you open outlook:-
Open Outlook, go to...Tools....Options....Other(tab)...and untick 'enable instant messenging in outlook'.

If you are also using Norton AntiVirus, post back, as you may encounter an error window on start up.


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Response Number 7
Name: KiNeL
Date: May 19, 2003 at 12:38:21 Pacific
Reply:

Persistent little bugger isn't it?

I like to use Messenger when I decide NOT uncle Bill so I have a couple of .vbs script files to turn it off or on at will. Credit to the author of course.

Paste the following into notepad and save as Messemger_OFF.vbs


'Prevent Windows Messenger from automatically Starting
'xp_messenger_autorun.vbs
'© Doug Knox - 03/01/2002
'Downloaded from http://www.dougknox.com
'This code may be freely distributed/modified
On Error Resume Next

Set WshShell = WScript.CreateObject("WScript.Shell")
WshShell.RegWrite "HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Policies\Microsoft\Messenger\Client\PreventRun",1,"REG_DWORD"
WshShell.RegWrite "HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Policies\Microsoft\Messenger\Client\PreventAutoRun",1,"REG_DWORD"
WshShell.RegWrite "HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Outlook Express\Hide Messenger",2,"REG_DWORD"

Message = "Windows Messenger will no longer run, or start automatically."

X = MsgBox(Message, vbOKOnly, "Done")
Set WshShell = Nothing

Now ditto the following as Messenger_ON.vbs

'Prevent Windows Messenger from automatically Starting - Undo Script
'xp_messenger_autorun_undo.vbs
'© Doug Knox - 04/12/2002
'Downloaded from http://www.dougknox.com
'This code may be freely distributed/modified
On Error Resume Next

Set WshShell = WScript.CreateObject("WScript.Shell")

WshShell.RegDelete "HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Outlook Express\Hide Messenger"
WshShell.RegDelete "HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Policies\Microsoft\Messenger\Client\PreventRun"
WshShell.RegDelete "HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Policies\Microsoft\Messenger\Client\PreventAutoRun"
Message = "Windows Messenger will now be allowed to start and run automatically."

X = MsgBox(Message, vbOKOnly, "Done")
Set WshShell = Nothing


I keep shortcuts to these on my desktop along with a shortcut to windows Messenger so I can disable/enable/run it at will.
Ha !


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Response Number 8
Name: David
Date: May 19, 2003 at 13:37:26 Pacific
Reply:

To the gentlemen who first posted about windows messenger, follow the steps i gave you and this will take care of the problem. You can still run the program you will just have to select the program from your programs list. Could you guys make this any more harder for him?


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Response Number 9
Name: Gary Van Put
Date: May 19, 2003 at 13:53:06 Pacific
Reply:

David, your first answer did not solve his problem.
Your instructions were fine to disable Messenger, but he has an issue with Windows Messenger......read response 3.
I agree with you in respect of KiNeL's answer above.


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Response Number 10
Name: Scott
Date: May 19, 2003 at 21:37:35 Pacific
Reply:

Okay, so I don't have the "other" tab in my options in Outlook. I am using Outlook Express version 6.0. Also I am talking about Windows Messenger; I have no idea what the Messenger prog does/is for.

So I am still having the same problem of it ALWAYS being on. The worst part about it is that I cannot see ANY sign that I am "online" in WM. I will be typing away and then a window will pop up, with a message from one of my friends. They say that I am always on eventhough I see no icon running and nothing is in my start up.

Gary- I do have Norton AntiVirus installed and running. Thank you all for the help.


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Response Number 11
Name: Gary Van Put
Date: May 19, 2003 at 23:09:51 Pacific
Reply:

Download and run the free regcleaner from:
http://www.vtoy.fi/jv16/shtml/software.shtml

Under the 'startup' tab ensure that 'msmsgs' is removed.

Outlook Express does not automatically start Windows Messenger, my previous advice was for Microsoft Outlook.

The 2 boxes I refered to in 'Options' in Windows Messenger must be unchecked.

Open Norton Antivirus, go to 'Options', and then Under the 'Internet' section select 'Instant Messenger'. Uncheck the box that refers to MSN Instant Mesenger.

Restart your Computer.


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Response Number 12
Name: Tim
Date: May 20, 2003 at 05:31:13 Pacific
Reply:

Start - run - gpedit.msc - ok
computer configuration
windows components
windows messenger

Then use the two policies to manage how you want to run messenger.


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Response Number 13
Name: Marty525
Date: May 20, 2003 at 10:05:19 Pacific
Reply:

On the Windows Messenger menu when it opens - select Tools-then options- then preferences and uncheck "run this program when windows starts" Now you won't log on until you click messenger in your toolbar.


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Response Number 14
Name: Scott
Date: May 20, 2003 at 18:31:31 Pacific
Reply:

Marty- I have tried that, it does NOT work. Any area that has a tools-options-checbox set up has done nothing to stop Senor Gates from running his program.

Tim- I followed your instructions and it lead me to something I havent seen before. I disabled the start messenger at start-up option. The other option wants to not allow messenger to run. Both were not configured" when I found them. I hope that did it.

Gary- I have run RegCleaner before. All it does is disable it. It wasn't on the "start up" tab list, although it is in my "msconfig" when I run that from the start button. It just isn't checked. I make sure to keep the checked list in there very minimal.

Again, I have no idea if I am loggedinto it right now as I have had no way of telling. I guess I will just have to wait and see if someone's message just pops up. If so, I will definitely post again. Thank you all for the help. Nice to know that there are people out there to lend a hand.


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Response Number 15
Name: KiNeL
Date: May 24, 2003 at 14:10:52 Pacific
Reply:

Despite the criticism I stand by my fix 100% simply because IT WORKS and does exactly what Scott asks and gives simple yet total control over the little bugger which none of the other posted answer does.

Scott,

I have emailed you the two scripts. Save them somewhere then create desktop shortcuts to them along with a shortcut to Windows Messenger which is here if you don't know.

"C:\Program Files\Messenger\msmsgs.exe"

Enjoy your Messenger free existence !


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