Setishock, this is the problem, the XP forum is now basicallly unmoderated. Kevin is hardly here anymore as a mod, Justin cannot be here all the time either. Learn How To GOOGLE! Here

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Hey per, good to see you back :) For the benefit of any newcomers, I'd like to point out that I never "told you to leave". I disagreed with you - strongly - on several issues. As I recall, I invited you to participate in an ongoing discussion of those issues. In one such thread, you chose to participate by posting such insightful thoughts as, "No anger! go with it jerk, stupid, idiot, simplistic, ETC, It is now your post ROFLMAO!!". As before, per, I welcome and encourage your contribution to any discussion in which you choose to participate.

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Kevin has his little girl on his mind and for that I will not fault him. As for Justin I don't know what happened to him. But he seems to need to pass the sword of power to another person who can be here a lot or maybe 2 or 3 mods. Over where I'm at we have 6 mods. Wildfires get stomped out right quick. Abuse of members is not in the slightest tolerated. Maybe if some of the folks who have a lot of time on their hands want to get together and draft an e-mail to Justin then maybe he will consider making some personnel changes. I may be crazy, but I'm not stupid...

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Hi Jimminy. I am not back. I just dropped by. I still believe that the answer to IE problems is not " GET FIREFOX" You go ahead and advise all the newbys how to fix it.

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Ok per, or whoever you are posting as these days. Glad to see you've expanded your horizons since we last talked. And, all sarcasm aside, I'm actually very sorry to see that you take such an insignificant and trivial thing personally. And that you are still upset about it.

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I am not upset and I am not posting as anyone else. I am done here. I have no idea what your reference to " expanding horizons" is but thanks for your consideration.

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"I was told to leave by the new guys jboy" .. still lurking in the darkness eh? Your grasp of reality seems.. tenuous. New Guy?? Buddy, I've been contributing here long before there even was an XP forum. Contributers come and go - most don't make a big deal out of it Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former.

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I have no idea what your reference to " expanding horizons" is Noted for posterity ;)

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The Saga never ends.. Nice to see you still peek in from time to time per.. I know Per and my ideas may never work but I help here quite a bit and the only people that will make me leave is if one of the mods or Justin tell me to.. I havent been active in the past week or so because of family deaths and inspections at work. Not that much time latley. Also from what was said earlier. Simplest answers are easily searched for. Laters boys and girls. ------ Get FireFox You'll be happy you did.

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Seems to be that I am always comeing in late and a dollar short on some of these postings. Hey Hey per!! I don't care what others think or say about you...I still like you. Drop me a line once in a while if you find something elsewhere... gmail works great and all. But am like you in getting burned out on the BS that has been going on in here lately. Ramblings and all with no real answers....then no feed back as to whether an answer was the right one....and on and on and on. IN THE MATTERS OF STYLE, swim with the current; in matters of principle, STAND LIKE A ROCK

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BuzzStPoint. You are one of the best if not the best helpers and posters here. Don't leave or let the jerks get to you. You have over the last 2 years been the best help here. Take care.

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Hey Lurkswithin. I posted to Buzz and found yours behind. I have been in ctc with setishock and he is a new moderator at a new site. Will give it to you in a few minutes on pm.

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FYI, Everyone, I still watch these forums all the time. However, I see less and less messages reported offensive. I can easily handle more posts, if I knew about them. The problem is that, sometimes I never see them. Please use that feature. Even if you think the post may not be offensive, still hit the button if you have any suspicion. I don't mind checking it out. I would much rather see some non-offensive posts reported than miss some of the ones that are offensive. Mind you, its probably only a few select people making these posts. If you report the ones offensive, I bet they will stop very quickly after I ban the users. Just something to think about, Justin

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Sorry, I should have clarified this. I closely examine each and every single post that is reported to me offensive. I still spot check other posts, but I usually only find problems that are reported to me. The vast majority of the posts I randomly select have no problems at all. Anyone who has reported a post offensive and checked back should confirm I usually act fast and aggressively on such posts. The problem is, I don't see many reported. For example, some days I will see as little as four or five. This is much less than before. Justin

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Howdy howdy howdy. I'm offended my name wasn't in the FP. I've been here since, well, a long time. I tell you what, back in the good old days... :) Posters come and go, that's part of life. I've gone from being a pretty prolific poster to primarily a lurker who jumps out of the darkness when I see something interesting or a post that doesn't have any responses yet. I also usually scan for threads with lots of posts (like this one) because they are often interesting. My excuse is college and work, as many others are I'm sure. As to repeat threads dealing with the same old stuff every day, face it, that's what you're going to see on a general computing forum for Windows. Same old problems, questions, and mistakes, just a different user on a different day. Programming, WebDev, and Linux are a little more fun sometimes, but not always.

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Dr. Nick, Now you can use the learning center links at the top of each forum. They will automatically show the most active threads in terms of responses. The FAQ will show the most viewed ones. Justin

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Thats good to hear Per.. I know we have differences in some areas but that wont make me hate ya.. Like I said. only person to run me out of town is gonna be the shariff. ------ Get FireFox You'll be happy you did.

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Buzz-Never tried to run you out of town. Always thought you were way ahead of most of us. I have no memory of a conflict with you but if there was I apologize. So Long!

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Justin - That's neat, I'll have to remember those links. This is off topic, but while I have your attention, I had a question for you. Sometimes in my My Computing.net message list I have messages that get mixed up with others in the list. Details: Occasionally the links don't link to the message they say, but rather to a message up or down a few in my list. For example, the link ".../mycomputingread.pl?10" really loads the 8-9th or 11-12th entry in the list even though the link text says the correct thread subject. I do have it set so it only shows messages with replies, if that might have an effect on it. I can't recreate it at will, so that's about all the info I have. Helpful, I know :) Thanks.

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Hello, If you hit reload, does that fix it? I would imagine this is happening: You load My Computing.Net and make some sort of changes somewhere (like delete a message or an alert) then, without reloading the page, you end up using the mycomputingread script. It is basing that number off of live information in your account. If that reference number was made prior to changes in the account like I mention, it could possibly be wrong. However, I don't see how this could happen unless you have multiple browser windows open both working on My Computing.Net. Justin

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Justin - I'll try reloading next time I see it, but it seems to happen fairly seldom and at random times. I don't recall ever having multiple windows open to Computing.net, but maybe I did change something then hit the Back button. Not sure, but I'll pay more attention next time. Thanks Nick

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Per... I never felt you were trying to run me out.. Not at all.. you gave me some real good comments.. I thought there were a few browser tifs.. But nothing to be concerned about. not in my book anyways. people are entitled to there opinions. And I respect that.. Keep it real per and peek in from time to time. and Arif. I would start a new thread. Perhaps in the Office section for your program.. Laters. ------ Get FireFox You'll be happy you did.

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I must admit, I don't get all the hostility here. As said before, yeah ok far too many people post questions that have been answered many times before. It will always be the same. As for members/visitors/mods blah blah who disagee........ What's the point in fighting your personal views across, when the only real answer is that it's all down to the individual user? firefox may be fantastic to 1 person, but total s!£$ to another. That's why there are so many different pc's, and so many different programs. At the end of the day, each and everybodys computer is set up to the way that person made it, and if that user comes across a problem, then they are going to ask us to help solve it for them, Not simply "get this" or "get that". 1 post... a few suggestions, and then it's up to the user to choose who's advice to go for. Arguing amongst youselves does only 1 thing to a forum......... It makes it a laughing stock, and distracts from it's purpose. And all I can say is that this is a site that has extreme respect and a massive liberary of information to help us users keep our computers the way we like it. Computing.net is way too above becoming a boxing ring of peoples personal issues. let's try doing what this site is for, and get peoples problems sorted (including many of mine i might add hehe) Just my 2 cents, hope i didn't offend anyone.

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yodadude1 I think you hit the nail on the head regarding the browser saga. If someone is in big trouble with IE, suggesting they install another browser is NOT the fix (over the years I have seen that happen many times on the boards here). IE and Windows are well integrated, which is one good reason why the problem needs to be properly cleared up before introducing changes which could add to the problem. Suggesting the poster considers some other browser "after" the problem is fixed is quite a different matter, it's opinion but it still could be helpful. Derek.W

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The last two posts offer a lot of good points. Lets hope that the persons in question take it to heart and maybe this forum can get it's train back on the tracks.

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It's sad when you have a handfull of posters pour their free time in to something important as this and get jackslapped by others who think they know more than anyone else. We may not allways be right but at least we are willing to admitt we don't know everything. The "get firefox" and "format your hard drive" are not answers but are just ways to get attention and in some forums, jack up your post count. Justin, you might consider getting VB software to have your forum on. It's a lot easier to moderate and has far more power than what you are using now. Where I mod, The forum is set up so one person can mod the system by themselves. Although we have 6 mods, 1 or 2 can do the job just fine. But at least our mods are on the job. As I stated in the other post I don't fault Kevin having a personal life but you need a full time moderator staff. Make it so they are in different time zones for exsample so at the least one is online at all times. With out a firm grip on the wheel you lose control. Which I am sorry to say it appears that has happened. I may be crazy, but I'm not stupid...

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Hi everyone. As a very new member and not in my early years lets say. I thank God for All of you that are willing to give your time and help us novices. I am glad that you can have the above conversations and I hpe you all now how appreciated you all are. With regard to searching for answer, Please guys remember most people who post here are panicing that something dredfull has happened to there very expensive bit of kit. And if you guys help them yes they should post back and let you know if it worked. But we are not all like that. once again thanks to all MODS and other pitbull10. p.s uptil about a month ago I did not know what spyware was and what it can do???

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Well, I think that it goes without saying that most here find the 'one-note' answers far from satisfying. It's not, however, solely a FireFox issue as per/why/sonny2(??) wants everyone to believe - nor are "the Firefox people taking over the forum" as he claimed in that contentious (and seemingly expunged) post he'd made recently. As well, no one told him to 'leave the forum' as he claims - that's more fiction - although it was suggested that if insulting all who disagreed was his idea of 'discussion' then perhaps participation in a forum was not for him (a timeout was recommended) Interesting indeed is the fact that this message appears to have been planted by 'per'('why') in the first place - perhaps in order to voice his dissatisfaction over unjust treatment (in his own mind, anyways) It'd be nice to move on from this silliness. Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former.

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I moderate on 2 other cd\dvd burning forums and thought id like to add my 2 cents worth.. All forums have the same posts over and over lets face it people dont search well not the majority anyway.. But if you look at it another way say if everybody searches then there will not be any new posts to answer therfore the forum will look dead and nobody really stays around a dead forum... IMO more posts = more active forum But i do agree with the mod bit maybe you should have a phpBB forum and make the regular helpers mods that can edit\delete posts as neccessary..

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Just to add another viewpoint... I like Computing.Net's simplistic view. It's a simple layout that has worked well for many years. That said, there's times I'd wished for a few features, such as code formatting and highlighting (for the WebDev and Programming forums). I don't like forums that allow editing of posts, it just makes for extra confusion. If Justin were to go with phpBB or vBulletin for some reason I would only ask that editing is disabled and for signatures that do NOT allow images and are limited the same way they are now. I get sick of downloading over a megabyte of crap that people put in their signatures. Finally, the more full moderators you have the more trouble there is it seems. Right now (as Justin points out above) there are very few posts that really need to be removed or moderated. Besides, everyone here is a meta-moderator, allowed to report any post as offensive and subject it to the personal attention of the moderators. <insert cliché here> Nick

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I have been coming here for so long its not funny and it seems to me like alot of people have developed a bad attitude,for instance people acting like something is below then and a waste of their precious time.These same people act like they own the forum and everyone should bow at their feet and lick the lint from between their toes,I meant come on.You guys get plenty of thanks for what you do but lately you have gotten to the point where you think its owed to you.When I say "YOU" you know who you are and trust me you guys may think you are doing everyone that comes here a favor but like I said in the beginning of this post I have been coming here a long long time and trust me there will be more "YOU's" showing up there always is.If you want to help then fine help,but please do us all a favor and just grow up a bit.JEZ

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