Of course he is 300% right (if he weren't he would be out in the Skid Row). What's your point in this thread? i_XpUser

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Well one of the points I'm sorry I never mentioned is that I can no longer activate my copy of XP (fully legal) over the Internet. It's asking for a new key to be entered as the previous one has been used too many times (always by me). Hence I had to speak to a Microsoft Rep and it came up. PhilC

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Either you are confused, or you mis-stated your "question." The "license" is for all practical purposes, the "Product Key" so far as single owner versions are concerned. What that means, is, that I could, for example, go downtown and buy 2, 4, 6, or 600 copies of XP, Open them, take out the license with the "key" and then use JUST ONE CD OUT OF ALL THOSE BOXES to install on however many machines, and using a different "key" on each machine. The CD really has NOTHING to do with the "license", there is no "uniqueness" to each individual CD. Really, the only difference between different CD's is when they are for a different "build" of XP, and in fact, this has been true since Winblows95. For example, an "upgrade" key cannot be used in a RETAIL or OEM "full version" A RETAIL "full" key cannot be use in an "upgrade" version, OR an "OEM" version, and now that X tra P utrid also has the multi-licensed "Volume license" CD's called by many as a "corporate" version, the "corporate" keys cannot be used with other types of CD's and so on. It is the license/ product key which you must have unique on your different machines.

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PhilC Would you care to enlighten us as to why you need to install & run two copies of XP on the same PC? What do you hope to accomplish this way? i_XpUser

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1.1 Installation and use. You may install, use, access, display and run one copy of the Software on a single computer, such as a workstation, terminal or other device ("Workstation Computer"). The Software may not be used by more than one processor at any one time on any single Workstation Computer. This says it all... http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/home/eula.mspx Boycot James Hardie Products.

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Here is a thought, when Joe Kid activates his first installation of XP, he did it over the phone. Joe Kid got a bunch of numbers to put in where it says to. When Joe Kid does the second install, he put in those same numbers. If it is the same computer with the same hardware and the same key for the cd it should activate it. Just a thought, hypothetically speaking for Joe Kid.

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If you hide the installation, like using Partition Magic, and install both on C drive, you are only using 1 copy of software at a time on the processor and should be ok?

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Pistal, didn't you read what Phil C posted? Soylent Green is PEOPLE!!!

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Hi all. Thanks for follow ups Reason for my second XP install. When I first bought my PC, I was a complete novice. I was completely taken in by a presentation on QVC (UK) and hands up I bought my first PC and still use it today. It came with Windows ME pre-installed and only a recovery CD About a year later XP came out and here in the UK, I managed to buy an upgrade CD at about a third of the price of a full installation CD. I discovered that the upgrade was exactly the same as a full install CD, as long as you have a previous version of Windows installed. After one or two unsuccessful installs for one reason or another, I always had to recover ME first as a qualifying system so I could upgrade/install XP. The recovery CD was never accepted as qualifying software on it's own. It had to be installed. Over the years, I've kept but upgraded my PC, second hard drive, new ram etc. The only thing is my ME recovery CD got destroyed about 2 years ago, the dog got hold of it. I now always keep a second basic copy of XP on another partition as a back just in case for use as a qualifying system if my primary install is not recognized. Yes this did happen once and this plan saved me a lot of hassle. PhilC

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I discovered that the upgrade was exactly the same as a full install CD... Yes, this info is correct ...as long as you have a previous version of Windows installed. No, this info is not correct. According to M$ the qualifying media has to be original Windows CD that you used to install Windows. Preinstalled version does not qualify. i_XpUser

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PhilC I think you need dispel your misunderstanding of what is and what is not. Read THIS. i_XpUser

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Thanks for the article. From my CD menu I have the following 2 options of either 1 Upgrade (recommended) or 2 New installation (Advanced) Don't forget, initially I am using the Upgrade CD thorough a Windows installation already installed and not booting from the CD itself. as you would may be with a full installation CD. Initially years ago I used option 1 but then discovered later on what I could do in option 2, during the install itself format, partition, etc. This all happened after the first boot. I'm not sure what you tying to tell me but as long as I have a Windows installation, be it ME or XP installed, I can use my XP upgrade CD successfully within that installation to create a new or second copy of XP. During installation I'm given all the same options you would get on a full CD after the first boot. Believe me I've done this many times. PhilC

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XpUser From the article you just supplied. Bullet point number 4 says "does allow you to upgrade over it with a future release of Windows" PhilC

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Just wanted to add my rant to this. Although, MS has every right to restrict their licenses as they see fit, I think it's bad policy not to allow consumers to do multiple installations of the same OS on their system with the same license. There are many good reasons to do this. I know people that use multi-boots of the same OS to keep their Work and Personal environments separate. And, from my personal experience in the software industry, mutiple installs make testing much easier. At the very least they should have a multi-boot reduced license. Like $x.00 for each installation on a machine at a very reduced cost. You can only run one of the OSs at a time anyway, unless of course youare running VirtualPC - which may be the reason for this anyway. Michael J

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It would make sence that you can not actually USE the two installs at and exact time. That is a normal test of use. Is it against the eula. Most likely MS would interpret it to be against their agreement. What would a normal tech savy person think?? Well... The real issue is the activation. For whatever reason you wish to have two copies of the same CD on a single computer is YOUR reasons. I actually find that two copies of the same install is a great way to prevent loss if data. If for example you wish to install a unknown program and can't take the time to uncrash your first system then a second install would be wonderful for testing. Shouldn't you be allowed an install for testing? I thank MS for activating your system. Hope the poor tech that did it doesn't get fired.

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Always considered it puerile that you weren't allowed to use a FULL version of XP for an upgrade. To take slight issue with XpUser for a moment, according to the article you pointed to and I quote: "The same need for upgrading with an OEM CD with WinXP exists. Unfortunately, no one has figured out how to do it !!!" Not so I believe. If you google for: UNLOCK WINXP SETUPP.INI you'll learn about how to do it. This is not in intended as an invitation to piracy but as possible workround for an illogical problem.

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Ok so one question if you have xp installed then crashes you decide to reinstall xp you should be allowed? or do you need a new code for second install cause i was told you cant use the same numbers even if its the same computer and your just reinstalling xp.

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Ok so one question if you have xp installed then crashes you decide to reinstall xp you should be allowed? or do you need a new code for second install cause i was told you cant use the same numbers even if its the same computer and your just reinstalling xp.

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