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Name: Br1an
Date: September 29, 2002 at 05:33:24 Pacific
OS: XP
CPU/Ram: 256
Comment:

Hi there,
I try to set up a LAN network (just 2 computers) by using crossover cable from
1 network card to another (1 running XP, 1 98). what i did was set up the XP computer
as a host, so i run "Set up a home/small office network" utility in XP and create a
disk to run on the 98 computer. But then when I finish everything, the 98 computer
cannot access to the XP share folder !
If you know any good links to any ref about
this, please let me know .
Thanks a lot in advance



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Response Number 1
Name: leon
Date: September 29, 2002 at 06:08:00 Pacific
Reply:

you need the user that's wants access to the share on xp to actually be a user on xp. So the win98 machine must log in as a user not the automatic logon, and the name that you choose to logon in win98 must be a name on the xp machine.

good luck,
leon


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Response Number 2
Name: golk75
Date: September 29, 2002 at 06:39:00 Pacific
Reply:

Wouldn't you need a hub to connect both computers?


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Response Number 3
Name: Jehewid
Date: September 29, 2002 at 07:38:37 Pacific
Reply:

golk75... no you don't need a hub, using a crossover cable is adequate just for two computers - though if you want more than 2 computers then yes a hub is required

leon.. you do not need to log in as a 'user' on the win 98 machine at all... using the windows family logon is acceptable.

brlan... WinXP switches on the built in firewall by default on any network connection (assuming that you use the wizard and don't set up the connection manually)... make sure it is switched OFF for your LAN connection (unless you have 3rd party firewall do NOT sitch off the firewall for your internet connection). The built in firewall stops packets going over NetBIOS/port 139 and this is required to share files. Make sure that the computer names for both machines are different. Also make sure that the workgroup name is the same on both computers. Both of these settings can be accessed via network in control panel for Win98 and via the system properties in control panel in WinXP. You also have to make sure your WinXP machine is switched on first (assuming you will keep it as host)

hope this helps, good luck

J


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Response Number 4
Name: Br1an
Date: September 30, 2002 at 07:45:57 Pacific
Reply:

Hi Jehewid,
Thanks a lot for your reply. I'm doing
exactly what you just said...however,after
reinstalling my driver for the ADSL modem
in the 98 machine, the LAN started going
crazy. Hmmm..
BTW, i forgor how to ping from one computer
to another .. Say, if i wanna find out
the IP address that was assigned by the
wizard, then i gotta type "ipconfig" rite?

this is what i got :

Microsoft Windows XP [Version 5.1.2600]
(C) Copyright 1985-2001 Microsoft Corp.

C:\Documents and Settings\Brian Le>ipconfig

Windows IP Configuration


Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection 7:

Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Autoconfiguration IP Address. . . :
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . :
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . :

Ethernet adapter Network Bridge (Network Bridge) 3:

Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . :
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . :
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . :

PPP adapter iPrimus Broadband:

Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . :
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . :
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . :

is is the IP for my LAN the one listed
under:
Ethernet adapter Network Bridge (Network Bridge) 3 ??

then, to find out the other computer's
IP, i should do the same, rite ?
Having 2 Ips in hand now, then how to
ping it to test my LAN ??
Umho, thats a long post. Sorry guys :)


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Response Number 5
Name: Jehewid
Date: September 30, 2002 at 13:15:04 Pacific
Reply:

Hi Brlan.

As you might have worked out I don't live in your neck of the woods so sorry for the delay.

Yes ipconfig will tell you what your current PC IP address is. Looking at what you have I'd say the IP address for your LAN would be the one given by local area connection 7.

The one for the network bridge is probably the one for your LAN/ADSL connection. Bridges are commonly used when connecting ethernet and USB networks so I'd guess your ADSL modem connects to your XP PC via USB.... how am I doin??

Yes you would also need to do ipconfig on the other PC to find out it's IP address.

A note for you though windows normally sets IP addresses on a LAN to be 198.162.x.x sometimes it might use 10.0.x.x (where x is a number between 1-255), so it would be a good idea to look for a number similar to this when you ipconfig.

having got both IP's then all you need do in XP is go to the command promtp and type in the following

ping

if your PC's are talking ot each other you should then get something like

reply from bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=128

hope that helps

J

PS... when you say your LAN went crazy... how do you mean crazy?? light flashing up all over the place??



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Response Number 6
Name: Br1an
Date: October 1, 2002 at 02:57:43 Pacific
Reply:

i meant..it sometimes shows that one
computer can "see" the other, but cannot
access it and vice-versa.
u said, type "ping" only , without any
parameters ??
that's not a valid syntax, rite ?
thanks for your time J


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Response Number 7
Name: Jehewid
Date: October 1, 2002 at 05:50:48 Pacific
Reply:

Hi

mmm... not sure what went on with that last post

I did actually write

ping 'other computers ip address'

however I originally put 'other computers ip address' in angle brackets so it's possible that this websites parser mistook that for a HTML command and wiped it out when it didn't recognise it.... anyway you should get what I'm on about now ;-)

assuming that your PC's are now pinging each other ok (if they aren't there's something more fundamental wrong). we only have to sort out accessing folders on the other pc. Make sure you have actually selected a folder to share!.. On win98 and win xp you have to enable the required folder by right clicking on the folder (in explorer) and selecting the file sharing option (with or without passwords - up to you). If in Win 98 you can't see an option for file sharing on the right click menu... make sure you have enabled file and print sharing in control panel > network > configuration tab. allow the folder to be shared. You will need to reboot win98 and possibly winXP) in order for these to take effect. A warning sometimes it takes a couple of reboots for the network to 'hold'

Once you have enabled the folders to be shared you should then be able to find them on your network and voila files sharing is go. I'm currently at work being bombarded by other users questions so I may have missed out something here.... if you still have problems, email me using the link on the post header. I'll answer you as soon as I can.

J


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