Issue w/black background-white text

January 4, 2007 at 23:25:18
Specs: XP Home SP2, 1.6Ghz with 512Mb RAM
Hi everybody,

Okay, read forum, googled up a storm, even drilled ed MS, so how come nobody's even mentioning the issues of changing windows backgrounds (from the default white) to black and then changing font color (from black) to white?

Issue: While my preferred white text on black is enjoyed in Notepad and all windows file and folder lists are , I'm finding white webpages with white text.

Have fiddled with the settings until I'm numb. Maybe it's just not possible to use black backgrounds with white text because one cannot control either the backgrounds of webpages, and yet one can change webpage text color.

Likely maybe I need to fiddle thru combination of the related settings ("window, message box, selected items, and ToolTip"), but seems like there must be a means to setting white text without that white text appearing in webpages?

Understandably, windows isn't enabling changing background colors of webpages, but when changes are enabled for changing the color of text (and the issue of white on white is unresolved), surely some workaround is available (e.g.; JRE Java tweak, etc.)?

Regards and hap-e-trails, Steve Hopper

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January 4, 2007 at 23:30:07
Not all webpage text is seen as white, but random areas of the webpage's text is seen as white.

Regards and hap-e-trails, Steve Hopper

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January 5, 2007 at 13:01:48
Steve, I use white on black as well. In IE, Tools, Options, Color button, tick off Use Windows colors. Works unless the web site is using flash of course.

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January 7, 2007 at 18:04:12
Thanks for the replied tip. Using it now, but I don't expect it resolves the many issues related (I expect as) to how I've achieved viewing white text on black backs?

What with many prompts now being displayed with white text on white/light backs, maybe I need to re-think how it is I might be uneventfully able to use this scheme.

I'd even consider only using the scheme for viewing Word and NotePad text files, even though I really like viewing windows folders and directories also in the white text on black backs scheme.

And while display property changes to "Window", etc., are enabling the scheme in Word and NotePad files, the resulting issues are overwhelming.

Maybe I need to figure out a way to set up only NotePad and Word with white text on black backs?

Surely its possible to view white text on black backs and to do so avoiding mulitple text issues in programs and even windows prompts, but how?

I've thought about trying to set up Notepad for my scheme, but it doesn't seem to support font color or properties changes.

As for Word, it looks like maybe I can make a template for my preferred scheme?

Here's what I've tried and seemingly the issues, too many to resolve.

Ref. changes to display settings (desktop display properties) advanced appearance, here MS affords a list of available settings for the various Windows displays (e.g.; Menu's, Window's, Message Box, Selected Items, etc), so I initially simply changed "Window" properties (white back with black text) to white text on black back. But this gives rise to white text on white backs as seen in programs and even Windows prompts.

As for the other settings, I've tried adjusting them to resolve many unreadable text displays (e.g.; displayed webpages, program pages, prompts, and worse, Windows error and reminder prompts all with white text on near white backs), but I've yet to determine a combination that resolves unreadable text in webpages, windows prompts, etc.


Regards and hap-e-trails, Steve Hopper

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January 8, 2007 at 15:12:08
Okay, looks like I figured this out.

Here're my settings;

Ref. chgs to 'display properties advanced appearance', "Window" set to W/B, "Message Box" set to W, "Menu" set to W/B, "ToolTip" set to B/W, "Selected Items" set to W/B, "Application background" set to B, "3D Objects" set to W/B, and "Inactive Title Bar" (while set to my preferred backing color) set "font" to B.

As for "Desktop" set to B, these settings don't seem to cause any issues and seem irrelevant to any issues initially experienced.

Two key settings seem be the trick in getting all text clearly visible in windows, programs and websites.

Key settings center around "3D Objects" and "Menu", as only after re-setting these, did everything mesh. Also, browser setting needs re-set by unticking "use Windows colors" as found in Tools, Internet Options, General and Colors.

Regardless that all issues seem resolved, I'm uncertain why I'm hearing Windows error dongs (two) each time I click 'apply' (after resetting display settings), plus I'm also then getting AV popups indicating something to do with a supposedly detected new variant of riskware invader.

Regards and hap-e-trails, Steve Hopper

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January 8, 2007 at 15:19:07
Okay, one remaining issue that looks like I'll just have to live with.

In OE6, any opened e-mails do NOT display the header's text (From. Date, To & Subject) are blank. Hovering/dragging over each of these header attributes only results in displayed black boxes.

Regards and hap-e-trails, Steve Hopper

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January 8, 2007 at 18:21:53
Resolved unseen OE6 header text.

Re-set "3D" to B/W.

Now only unresolved annoyance is white text as seen in webpage buttons.

Will post back if I entirely figure this B-W thing.

Regards and hap-e-trails, Steve Hopper

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February 1, 2007 at 16:29:56
I completely agree with your frustration. I like black backgrounds myself. I've been more or less dumbfounded by windows systems in this regard.

My problem is kind of the opposite. I have always has trouble with black text on black backgrounds... also in windows dialogs! This text-field here for instance, I can't see what I write (Well, I can, but only because I have this trick to change a webpage's background-foreground colour)!

But, generally, windows makes textfield backgrounds black. And the yeha... I did NOT set the font to black. And this is, as said, even in windows XP itself! Checkboxes and radiobuttons for instance: black font. You use a black background? Well, your too bad. You can't change it.

The sorted column in windows explorer? UNLESS you use "view by groups" (or a background picture, one of a black square for instance, hint hint), the otherwise black background turn to gray here.. ugly!

I really wonder if windows Vista have resolved this hopelessly simple issue.

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