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Name: arthurx1234
Date: January 25, 2005 at 02:59:49 Pacific
OS: win xp
CPU/Ram: 2700 amd
Comment:

After a major problem with a virus i reformatted my hard drive.
since my pc was "preloaded" with windows i didnt have a backup disk, so i borrowed one.
i have reinstalled windows xp pro but i am unable to download/install service pack 1 as microsoft inform me that the product key i used was invalid.
(i had paid once for windows, dont see why i should pay again to get windows on a disc)
I would appreciate some help.
cheers



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Response Number 1
Name: Mechanix2Go
Date: January 25, 2005 at 03:08:50 Pacific
Reply:

I don't use XP, and this is one reason.

So if it was preinstalled, did you reinstall from a "recovery" CD or from a partition containing the setup files?

You may need to get SP1 on a CD and install from there instead of messing with M$.

M2


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Response Number 2
Name: FusionMaster
Date: January 25, 2005 at 03:25:00 Pacific
Reply:

What process did you use to format the HDD?

Knowledge is Power


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Response Number 3
Name: Jimi_l
Date: January 25, 2005 at 03:27:31 Pacific
Reply:

Hmmmm...lets see.

A guy with a free E-mail account installed a version on XP that he didn't own, soapboxes why they owe him anyway, can't download updates for it and want's us to tell him how to workaround it.

Pass

Jimi_l


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Response Number 4
Name: arthurx1234
Date: January 25, 2005 at 03:29:16 Pacific
Reply:

i install from cd rom using a copy of a xp disc


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Response Number 5
Name: Mechanix2Go
Date: January 25, 2005 at 03:42:45 Pacific
Reply:

jimi,

Yeah, but...

Another victum of the preinstalled OS and no disk scam.

I'd like to see somebody run a test case through the courts and burn one of these resllers good enough to get the other's attention.

M2


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Response Number 6
Name: Lesley
Date: January 25, 2005 at 04:13:20 Pacific
Reply:

If the OS was Pre-Installed then he should have some means of returning the Computer to 'factory condition'

If he was not given any CD for this purpose then the OS is probably on a Hidden Partition

He should have Instructions (in his Manual?) as to how to use the Hidden Partition

Lesley


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Response Number 7
Name: Richard59
Date: January 25, 2005 at 04:33:35 Pacific
Reply:

Regardless of whether the OS was pre-installed and recovery details are/were on a hidden partition, he's entitled to a valid licence key from the original maker/vendor. Should have at least a sticker or some documentation with his original key.

Give a man a fish and you feed him for a day.
Teach him to fish and his wife will never forgive you.


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Response Number 8
Name: XpUser
Date: January 25, 2005 at 04:40:07 Pacific
Reply:

According to THIS link, the Packard Bell Recovery Program is explained on page 40 of the User's Guide

i_XpUser


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Response Number 9
Name: hapeekrapee
Date: January 25, 2005 at 05:37:00 Pacific
Reply:

XpUser to the rescue again. And based upon his help on a question I had, I think I can speak from experiance.
If you did not get a recovery CD and are trying to use the product key printed on the side of the computer with a retail version of XP (even if it's a good copy) it will not work! Here's why: The setup files on a retail version are configured to accept only retail product keys and not an OEM key. While it may load, the key does not match the version and it will come up as a pirate. You need to change the setupp.ini files in the i386 folder to make it work. (and burn a new bootable copy of XP with the changes)
It takes about an hour and a half to complete but it does work.


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Response Number 10
Name: Mechanix2Go
Date: January 25, 2005 at 05:51:39 Pacific
Reply:

hapee,

Got a link to a guide on ini mods?

M2


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Response Number 11
Name: ClydeB
Date: January 25, 2005 at 05:56:51 Pacific
Reply:

Hopefully someday folks will realize that reformatting is not the answer but, in fact can be the problem. This one started with the reformat and escalated from there, IMHO. An early attempt to solve the problem would have been the appropriate approach.


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Response Number 12
Name: kinel
Date: January 25, 2005 at 06:22:38 Pacific
Reply:

FYI

WinXP's Setupp.ini controls how the CD acts. I.e. is it an OEM or retail version? First, find your Setupp.ini file in the I386 directory on your WinXP CD. If you open it up, it looks something like this:

[Pid]
ExtraData=707A667567736F696F697911AE7E05
Pid=55034000

The Pid value is what we're interested in. What's there now looks like a standard default. There are special numbers that determine if it's a retail, OEM, or Volume License Edition. First, we break down that number into two parts. The first five digits determine how the CD will behave, i.e. is it a retail CD that lets you clean install or upgrade, or an OEM CD that only lets you perform a clean install? The last three digits determine what CD key it will accept. You are able to mix and match these values. For example you could make a WinXP CD that acted like a retail CD, yet accepting OEM keys.

Now, for the actual values. Remember the first and last values are interchangeable, but usually you'd keep them as a pair:

Retail = 51882 335
Volume License = 51883 270
OEM = 82503 OEM

So if you wanted a retail CD that took retail keys, the last line of your Setupp.ini file should read:

Pid=51882335

And if you wanted a retail CD that took OEM keys, you should use:

Pid=51882OEM

Note that this does not get rid of WinXP's activation. Changing the Pid to a Volume License will not bypass activation. You must have a Volume License (Corporate) key to do so.



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Response Number 13
Name: XpUser
Date: January 25, 2005 at 06:34:25 Pacific
Reply:

Something else came to my mind. The COA sticker affixed to your Packard Bell is not the same thing as a Product Key Label. Here is why:

1. THIS page explains the difference between the COA and the orange Product Key label affixed to the installation CD holder, and

2. THIS page explains what COA really is and its four types.


i_XpUser


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Response Number 14
Name: HIT
Date: January 25, 2005 at 07:17:01 Pacific
Reply:

arthurx123 - Xp does not allow you to install service pack 1 under a product key that is known to be a pirate key. MS checks it's dbase for known pirate keys and then checks it against your copy. If a match is found you get the messege you got. The work around is to find out what your own key is.

Personally i would get myself down to the shop you bought your computer from and give em hell if they haven't given you a backup/restore CD!!

- H.I.T -


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