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Name: nem0
Date: December 14, 2006 at 08:54:16 Pacific
OS: XP SP2
CPU/Ram: 2.4
Comment:

After installing internet 7 my schedule batch files doesn't work. Removed IE7 and it works okay.. Is there a glich in IE7?



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Response Number 1
Name: XpUser
Date: December 14, 2006 at 09:04:27 Pacific
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Is there a glitch in IE7? I think so. In my view IE7 for XP is a "test bed" for M$ to fine-tune/improve IE7 for Vista. We all are guinea pigs without knowing it.

i_XpUser


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Response Number 2
Name: murr
Date: December 14, 2006 at 09:38:09 Pacific
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You got that right. Even better is you have to validate Media Player 11!. C'mon, I love XP but it's no wonder so many of us use 3rd party software


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Response Number 3
Name: nem0
Date: December 14, 2006 at 09:53:39 Pacific
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Ah, man I should've know better to test it on my pc before rolling it out to all the others... IE6 looks a lot better I think... IE7 looks too much like Mozilla firefox...


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Response Number 4
Name: XpUser
Date: December 14, 2006 at 10:08:45 Pacific
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The moral of the situation: Don't ever trust Redmond. There are many things they won't/doesn't want to/will not tell us.

i_XpUser


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Response Number 5
Name: mattie
Date: December 14, 2006 at 10:17:02 Pacific
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imho, an operating should be nothing but the platform to run the software of your choice with as little interference as possible and leave you with as much system resources as possible.

if the manufacturer is throwing in 'freebies' than that is fine but you should have at least the option to chose whether you want it included or not ... but you cannot expect them to be first class products (although they tell you different :-) ... media players, file and web browsers, text editors, etc. are NOT part of the operating system.

internet explorer 6 was a security nightmare (even the FBI was issuing security bulletins NOT to use this browser ... if that ain't the pits :-), ie7 inherited some of the flaws with the code ... as if 5 years wouldn't have been time enough to rethink the entire project and come up with something new ... no, business as usual and everything will be hunky dory with vista's virtualization features (not available in ALL versions)

and who in his right mind would chose a POS that is checking permission to play a media file. may that be wmp, itunes or sonic stage ... i daresay, looking up their change logs (if there ARE any available to the general public :-) would turn up 99.9 % changes made to please the recording industry and not you, the customer.

considering the vast resources these big players have it's a shame how they get outperformed by some small companies or community driven projects dedicated to deliver safety and quality.

amazing how ppl still get fooled by big names (not only microsoft).

Today's subliminal thought is: 'Calm down ... it's only ones and zeros.'


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Response Number 6
Name: Sabertooth
Date: December 14, 2006 at 10:36:52 Pacific
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Socialism vs Capitalism - heh?

One is fair but it just doesn't work on a broad scale and the other isn't fair but it works (at least) for the most part.


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Response Number 7
Name: XpUser
Date: December 14, 2006 at 10:47:38 Pacific
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imho, an operating should be nothing but the platform to run the software of your choice with as little interference as possible and leave you with as much system resources as possible

That's the idea of what an OS should be! In the case of M$ they screwed it by tieing IE and WMP to it. That's where 99% of all problems originated.

i_XpUser


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Response Number 8
Name: mattie
Date: December 14, 2006 at 11:21:18 Pacific
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aah ... they're not THAT tied to it as ms makes us believe.

i set up several xp machines completely without explorer (yes, the file browser and the original shell 'explorer.exe' is gone too, replaced with AstonShell), not without issuing an appropriate warning of course.

i must say, those customers are happy as pigs in sh*t :-) ... i haven't had any complaints.

now this is not everyone's cup of tea but nice experimenting for those who like to fiddle around with their toys ... and when you see a mediocre p4 booting up xp - not crippled in it's functionality - in less than 15 seconds (incl. firewall and av soft) and only using 70 MB ram then that's quite something.

Today's subliminal thought is: 'Calm down ... it's only ones and zeros.'


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Response Number 9
Name: Sabertooth
Date: December 14, 2006 at 12:38:46 Pacific
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I can maybe see the rationale behind *buying* AstonShell to deploy it on Win9X machines - but for XP & above based system, I would agree that the need for it bothers more on recreation than it does function & stability, unless AstonShell is somehow immune to the PEBKAC effect ;-)


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Response Number 10
Name: mattie
Date: December 14, 2006 at 14:49:26 Pacific
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as i said ... experimental, since aston was torn apart, modified (in a way that it isn't calling explorer.exe when browsing the computer) and integrated as standard shell into the installation. we tried BlackBox too but to no avail in terms of improved performance.

Today's subliminal thought is: 'Calm down ... it's only ones and zeros.'


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Response Number 11
Name: Diamond Jim
Date: December 14, 2006 at 16:06:30 Pacific
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I am running IE7 with XP x64 Pro, with absolutely no problems. In fact it is the best and most stable version of IE that I have ever used, and that goes back to the very first IE.

Unless something really changes and some super features become available that IE doesn't or can't have, I doubt that I will go back to any version of FireFox. At least no with with this OS


Diamond Jim


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Response Number 12
Name: KevinS.
Date: December 14, 2006 at 16:42:46 Pacific
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I am a user of IE7 and WMP11. I don't have any problems with them. They work perfectly 99.9% of the time.


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Response Number 13
Name: XpUser
Date: December 14, 2006 at 17:58:00 Pacific
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Why only 99.9% of the time and not 100%?

i_XpUser


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Response Number 14
Name: Joe2112
Date: December 14, 2006 at 20:18:30 Pacific
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Why only 99.9% of the time and not 100% you ask because its a thing called computing show me one piece of software that works 100% of the time.


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Response Number 15
Name: mattie
Date: December 15, 2006 at 00:59:21 Pacific
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for those with modest security and quality requirements ie and wmp (does wmp11 now play dvds? :-) are indeed reasonable choices

Today's subliminal thought is: 'Calm down ... it's only ones and zeros.'


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