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Name: Scotopher
Date: October 5, 2007 at 13:49:04 Pacific
OS: XP
CPU/Ram: ?
Product: Compaq
Comment:

Hey.

i want to install windows 'XP PROFESSIONAL' onto a brand new hard drive, i connected the new hard drive to my pc and booted from disc, but it says there is no hard drive connected, i have set the hard drive to 'master' 'slave' 'cable select' and still doesnt work, i also tried adding it as a 2nd hard drive, but still doesnt work (it doesnt even load my old hard drive) i have a brand new XP disc (genuine) but i cant seem to work this out...

please help, thnks



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Response Number 1
Name: PC Bob
Date: October 5, 2007 at 13:58:58 Pacific
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In your BIOS setup screen, usually the first option, you can select the drives and there should be a way for it to Auto select. This way it will recognize your drives. If it is the only drive on that channel, set it Single drive, not master and not Slave. Don't use the old cable select method; it's out-dated. Once you can get the BIOS to recognize your drive, you will be on your way.

I hope this helps.


Bob

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Response Number 2
Name: Scotopher
Date: October 5, 2007 at 14:31:03 Pacific
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If it is the only drive on that channel, set it Single drive, not master and not Slave. <<<When u say this, do u mean the pins on the hard-drive?

if u do the only options are..

Device0
Device1
Cable select
Master
Slave
Forcing
Dev1 present

What 1 shall i set it to?

thnks


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Response Number 3
Name: StuartS
Date: October 5, 2007 at 14:52:00 Pacific
Reply:

You need to look at the drive itself and probably go to the drive manufactures web site and see what it says there. Different manufactures do things slightly different. For example Seagate drives have Master and no slave, master with slave, and slave.

It should be set to Master if it is the only hard drive, but don't use cable select.

You need to get the drive recognised in the BIOS before you even think about loading the Windows XP disk.

Stuart


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Response Number 4
Name: Scotopher
Date: October 5, 2007 at 15:13:57 Pacific
Reply:

okay well i went into BIOS setting, and it still doesnt reconise the hard drive.

i went into IDE HDD auto-select.. and it doesnt find a hard-drive

IDE primary master = [Auto]
Access mode = [Auto]

I still no clu how to solve this problem


May it help to say, the hard drive i am trying to use is..

Hitachi Deskstar 250GB


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Response Number 5
Name: XpUser4Real
Date: October 5, 2007 at 15:37:22 Pacific
Reply:

why not call Hitachi tech support on that? You said it was brand new

Some HELP in posting on Cnet plus free progs and instructions Glad to Help!


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Response Number 6
Name: The_Oracle
Date: October 5, 2007 at 15:39:07 Pacific
Reply:

would you mind posting make and model of both, hard drive and mainboard?


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Response Number 7
Name: Scotopher
Date: October 5, 2007 at 15:47:22 Pacific
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Version 5.1.2600 Build 2600
System Manufacturer VIA Technologies, Inc.
System Model KM266-8235
System Type X86-based PC
Processor x86 Family 6 Model 10 Stepping 0 AuthenticAMD ~1665 Mhz
BIOS Version/Date Phoenix Technologies, LTD AM37321, 21/08/2003
SMBIOS Version 2.3

the hard drive i am using so far is a Maxtor 40GB

sorry if this information isnt correct, but i havnt done computers in years


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Response Number 8
Name: Scotopher
Date: October 5, 2007 at 15:53:51 Pacific
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Hitachi Deskstar 250GB
model: HDT725025VLAT80

Maxtor 40GB
model: 4D04OH2


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Response Number 9
Name: OtheHill
Date: October 5, 2007 at 16:03:49 Pacific
Reply:

Your MBoard is NOT 48 bit LBA compliant. That means you can't use that harddrive without installing a controller card. for mor information on 48 bit LBA look at the link below. You can either install a PCI based controller card or exchange the harddrive for a model 120GB or less.

http://www.48bitlba.com/index.htm


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Response Number 10
Name: Scotopher
Date: October 5, 2007 at 16:10:36 Pacific
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Ahhh that may explain things, i have used a 120GB in the past and that was sucessful, so i fink i will have to go downgrade to a 120GB...

Thnks for your help guys


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Response Number 11
Name: OtheHill
Date: October 5, 2007 at 16:13:59 Pacific
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Or you can get a controller card. They aren't that expensive. If you are interested post back and I will give you a link for one.


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Response Number 12
Name: Scotopher
Date: October 5, 2007 at 16:18:01 Pacific
Reply:

yeh go for it..


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Response Number 13
Name: OtheHill
Date: October 5, 2007 at 16:29:09 Pacific
Reply:

The first link is for a card that supports IDE only. The second link has dual IDE/ATAPI? SATA cards. Read and compare.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...


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Response Number 14
Name: Scotopher
Date: October 5, 2007 at 16:41:11 Pacific
Reply:

ok thnks, i shall take a look


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Response Number 15
Name: Scotopher
Date: October 5, 2007 at 16:44:47 Pacific
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so if i was to buy this 1, i can then install my new hard-drive?

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...


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Response Number 16
Name: The_Oracle
Date: October 5, 2007 at 16:51:47 Pacific
Reply:

that's why we ask for exact specifications sometimes :P

didn't have any time to look up the mainboard yet ... would there be a BIOS update available?


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Response Number 17
Name: Scotopher
Date: October 5, 2007 at 16:59:08 Pacific
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not sure,
but i got a friend comin over to look at it 2moz, he is gonna try, cos he knows loads bout computers, if not i will just downgrade to a 120GB i dont really need a 250GB

but thnks for ur help


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Response Number 18
Name: OtheHill
Date: October 5, 2007 at 17:09:10 Pacific
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Oracle

See #7. A 266 isn't going to support that drive. I believe VIA did have something to get some 48 bit support. I wouldn't recommend the OP attempt flashing the BIOS, even if there were an update to make it 48 bit compliant.

Scot

I assume you have an open PCI slot. If so, the card and drive should work.

Any of the cards I linked to will work.



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Response Number 19
Name: Scotopher
Date: October 5, 2007 at 17:20:12 Pacific
Reply:

yeh i got 1 free slot, so i cud get a card, cos ther arnt really that expensive..


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Response Number 20
Name: OtheHill
Date: October 5, 2007 at 17:27:07 Pacific
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The answer is yes.

The only thing I might suggest is that you get a controller card that supports more than one IDE harddrive and that also supports optical drives (CD/DVD). The reason is that when you finally upgrade your computer you MAY want to migrate some IDE drives to the new one.

Most new MBoards only have one IDE controller, which will support TWO drives. That may not be enough IDE support for you. Not a big deal, just something to think about.


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Response Number 21
Name: Scotopher
Date: October 5, 2007 at 17:36:52 Pacific
Reply:

i only want to run 1 hard-drive cos i dont use my pc for alot of storage.. but its just nice to have 1 big sized hard-drive...
so i wont be needing another 1.

wen u say to run CD/DVD rom's wot do u mean cos i got..

DVD-RW
CD-RW

but they work fine atm...do i need a specific controller card


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Response Number 22
Name: OtheHill
Date: October 5, 2007 at 17:44:24 Pacific
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I was talking about the future. If you wanted to move your harddrive and a CDrom and a DVD burner you would still be OK.

I have 3 IDE optical devices, one IDE harddrive AND one SATA drive in my current computer. I wouldn't be able to use many of the newer MBoards without adding a controller card that will work with optical drives.

If you aren't worried about the next computer then just get the one you like. All of them will work.


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Response Number 23
Name: The_Oracle
Date: October 5, 2007 at 17:49:01 Pacific
Reply:

when you're booting from an add-on card, bear in mind that you may have to set the first boot device to SCSI ... although your controller isn't really a SCSI controller.


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Response Number 24
Name: OtheHill
Date: October 5, 2007 at 17:58:16 Pacific
Reply:

Good point Oracle.


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Response Number 25
Name: Scotopher
Date: October 5, 2007 at 18:05:22 Pacific
Reply:

okay, well im gonna try n get a controller card, i shall search a uk site, u ask my m8 for 1 :P cos he has loads of brand new spares....

thanks for your help guys, most appreciated


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